First Greater Glasgow

[LT02 NVV]

47399 seen on 266 in Motherwell tonight.

Is it in the new livery?

 

[Trnsprt4Sctlnd]

I wish we’d get an order of new E400EVs or E12s/U11DDs. Glasgow seems quite stagnant just now even though I understand we’ve had quite heavy investment over the last few years. Some of the B9TLs/E300s are really grubby now - I was on one today on the 2. Bad

The Enviro 300s needing a complete refurb years ago.

 

[jazza374]

Is it in the new livery?

No. Urban livery and retains its full advert on the rear.

 

[route101]

3 years since the first E400evs as I noticed the older ones are 71 plates. I suppose its good for passengers with no drastic route/time changes. Don't get many new routes in Strathclyde, most of the excitement is East or on the coach network.

 

[F Great Eastern]

Rumour has it that there may be ten deckers heading to the beleaguered Aircoach operation in Dublin to convert the 700 from coach to double deck operation.

Any truth in the matter? Are 33101-33110 expected to become avaliable anytime soon or are they going to do something silly like send over 10 aging city spec deckers and charge the same premium price that they are doing now for coaches?

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Rumour has it that there may be ten deckers heading to the beleaguered Aircoach operation in Dublin to convert the 700 from coach to double deck operation.

Any truth in the matter? Are 33101-33110 expected to become avaliable anytime soon or are they going to do something silly like send over 10 aging city spec deckers and charge the same premium price that they are doing now for coaches?

The new Electroliners are expected for the 500 in early 2025 so I assume it’ll release the current airport buses as they’re already airport spec and have luggage racks fitted.

 

[Volvodart]

The new Electroliners are expected for the 500 in early 2025 so I assume it’ll release the current airport buses as they’re already airport spec and have luggage racks fitted.

Aberdeen ones are expected in March 2025.

 

[voidwxrranty]

33913 has transferred back to Glasgow. (SN)

 

[JumpinTrainz]

33913 has transferred back to Glasgow. (SN)

Surprising given Aberdeen are short of buses at the moment.

Does bare the question after previous discussions above - perhaps they are struggling with capacity on the 6 and need deckers.

 

[Volvodart]

Surprising given Aberdeen are short of buses at the moment.

Does bare the question after previous discussions above - perhaps they are struggling with capacity on the 6 and need deckers.

33913 was one of 2 that Aberdeen have not been able to make more reliable since it arrived and it has spent a lot of time out of service in the year it has been here.

37471 is now at Aberdeen so it looks to be it's replacement.

 

[Jordan Adam]

Surprising given Aberdeen are short of buses at the moment.

Does bare the question after previous discussions above - perhaps they are struggling with capacity on the 6 and need deckers.

Five low height E400s are due to return to Glasgow in exchange for Geminis.

 

[voidwxrranty]

Five low height E400s are due to return to Glasgow in exchange for Geminis.

best thing to happen to Glasgow when they left. snails aren’t the word.

the 6’s need them though.

 

[route101]

best thing to happen to Glasgow when they left. snails aren’t the word.

the 6’s need them though.

That's what they were ordered for , the 6.

Are they losing power?

 

[voidwxrranty]

That's what they were ordered for , the 6.

Are they losing power?

ever since they got their gearboxes remapped about 2 years after delivery they have been snails. only a few good ones. 902/910/914

 

[LT02 NVV]

Surprising given Aberdeen are short of buses at the moment.

Does bare the question after previous discussions above - perhaps they are struggling with capacity on the 6 and need deckers.

They swapped it for another Ex-Manchester Gemini, number 37471.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

The 6 requiring deckers is promising for passenger numbers after seeing singles for a time leading up to Covid.

I wonder if it’ll be an option for First to procure some specially made low height deckers for the 6 when the E400s are due for replacement.

 

[Jordan Adam]

ever since they got their gearboxes remapped about 2 years after delivery they have been snails. only a few good ones. 902/910/914

The Euro 6 retrofits haven't helped matters with them constantly going in to derate. 33901 is probably the least slow of the ones at Aberdeen but they all go through phases of being very slow, slow or less slow. The ex-Manchester examples (minus 33698) are in considerably better condition both mechanically and cosmetically and have clearly been better looked after. The same is true with the Geminis, the Manchester examples are in far better condition than the Glasgow ones.

 

[voidwxrranty]

The Euro 6 retrofits haven't helped matters with them constantly going in to derate. 33901 is probably the least slow of the ones at Aberdeen but they all go through phases of being very slow, slow or less slow. The ex-Manchester examples (minus 33698) are in considerably better condition both mechanically and cosmetically and have clearly been better looked after. The same is true with the Geminis, the Manchester examples are in far better condition than the Glasgow ones.

The Manchester Gemini’s are apparently horrid for drivers. 37461 jumps like mad.

 

[Trnsprt4Sctlnd]

The Manchester Gemini’s are apparently horrid for drivers. 37461 jumps like mad.

Suggesting a gearbox issue..

 

[LT02 NVV]

The Manchester Gemini’s are apparently horrid for drivers. 37461 jumps like mad.

To be fair, nearly all of them have had a better refurb though.

Excluding one of the ones on loan to Aberdeen hasn’t been refurbed, and is still in the Olympia livery.

 

[Jordan Adam]

To be fair, nearly all of them have had a better refurb though.

Excluding one of the ones on loan to Aberdeen hasn’t been refurbed, and is still in the Olympia livery.

The Geminis aren't on loan, they're a permanent transfer. Hence 33913 returning to Glasgow.

 

[LT02 NVV]

The Geminis aren't on loan, they're a permanent transfer. Hence 33913 returning to Glasgow.

So will 37461, 37467, 37547, 37548, and 37549 be moved to Aberdeen in future, with the Low-Height Enviro 400s being sent back to Glasgow?

 

[LT02 NVV]

Does anyone know why the E400EV demonstrator “LC71 EFD” is currently with First Glasgow?

 

[lastbus]

Does anyone know why the E400EV demonstrator “LC71 EFD” is currently with First Glasgow?

Covering for warranty work.

 

[LT02 NVV]

Covering for warranty work.

What bus is it covering for?

 

[Dfatcontroller]

What bus is it covering for?

Probably all 95 of them. One at a time.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

What bus is it covering for?

There’s a good few buses which have been out of action long term and aren’t tracking anymore. There’s lots more singles appearing on busy routes like the 38s as of late so no doubt Glasgow are short of deckers.

 

[route101]

There’s a good few buses which have been out of action long term and aren’t tracking anymore. There’s lots more singles appearing on busy routes like the 38s as of late so no doubt Glasgow are short of deckers.

Glasgow has always been short of decker's has it not. Despite orders of E400mmcs and E400evs there was the E200evs, E300s from past orders.

 

[LT02 NVV]

There’s a good few buses which have been out of action long term and aren’t tracking anymore. There’s lots more singles appearing on busy routes like the 38s as of late so no doubt Glasgow are short of deckers.

Glasgow really do need the buses they loaned to Aberdeen back soon.

 

[JumpinTrainz]

Glasgow has always been short of decker's has it not. Despite orders of E400mmcs and E400evs there was the E200evs, E300s from past orders.

Instead of ordering 50 new E200EVs they should have ordered deckers but they never learn their lesson as has been a common theme with the 2 (previous 62).