First Midland Bluebird

[overthewater]

Dear dear people of West lothian, are just showing themselves up badly here, including demand to know why First still gets the contract? Do people not know the bus routes are commercial? Yet people complain about the timekeeping etc etc

This has now appeared: https://www.change.org/p/west-lothian-people-bring-lothian-buses-to-west-lothian Who to say lothian would keep the crap routes going? Im still surprised in East lothian the X44 never become all day service to give the people living within Treanet Direct bus to Edinburgh? People of West Lothian have been very lucky.

 

[Jordan Adam]

I must say part of that did make me laugh.

"Lothian buses are a private company that service Edinburgh City’s centre and parts of East Lothian. They provide an outstanding service where bus times are met, buses are regular and they offer monthly ridacards. Their fares are cheaper than First Bus. As these are private companies the council cannot get involved. After direct conversations with Lothian Buses they responsed with..."

Followed by

"Fun fact: 91% of Lothian buses is owned by Edinburgh City council."

 

[overthewater]

Its Getting well out of hand now the angry at the changes, I just can't understand this. "were getting a worse service, were be cut, are we not part of Livingston". Biggest Bee is the lost of Direct buses to Edinburgh... The current network doesn't give anyone direct service, its utter madness. Who would sit for over an 60-120mins on a bus ??? I'm not saying the changes are 100% prefect, but the current network is a joke. I starting to get the feeling a shock therapy is needed.

ALSO its seems Falkirk and Stirling are getting major a review of this sort, so keep your eyes peeled, I think within the next two weeks, might be good bet.. so we my end up having a summer of this

 

[Volvodart]

A more detailed explanation of the effects of the changes is available here:-

https://www.westlothian.gov.uk/article/29265/Proposed-bus-changes-in-West-Lothian

Proposed bus changes in West Lothian
Impact of First Scotland East proposed bus changes

First Scotland East has launched a public consultation on proposed service changes of their West Lothian network. They have promoted their consultation online via their website and social media channels.

Full details of the proposed changes are available on the First Scotland East website and the council is encouraging local people and businesses to review the proposals put forward and take part in their consultation.

First Scotland East is also hosting a customer roadshow at Livingston Bus Terminal, located between the Livingston Designer Outlet and The Centre, on Friday 1st June from 10:00 until 7pm. All stakeholders are invited to attend.

You can take part in their consultation by visiting First East Scotland website.

Executive councillor for transport and development, Cathy Muldoon said: "I share the concerns of local people about some of the proposed changes put forward by First Scotland East in their consultation, and myself and the Leader of the Council have requested an urgent meeting with the Managing Director of First Scotland East to discuss these proposed changes.

"If local people haven't done so already, I'd encourage people to familiarise themselves with the proposed changes which are available on the First Scotland East website and make their views known via their consultation."

"It is First Scotland East that is proposing changes to these commercial services, not West Lothian Council. The council has no authority over these commercial changes."

To help you understand what impact the proposed changes would have on local services, Council Officers have been through the details of the proposals and pulled together this guide which you may find helpful.

Potential impact of First Bus changes in your area
Area Impact of proposed service changes
Addiewell & Loganlea
Faster route to Livingston Terminal (not via Dedridge)

Reduced frequency to Fauldhouse West Calder (every 30 mins)

No direct link to Blackburn (Service 803 removed)

New direct Link to Whitburn and Longridge introduced.

Link to Bathgate still possible but now significantly longer, via Whitburn.

Armadale
Lower Bathville - Bathgate via Falside area frequency increased to every 15 mins

Link to Bathgate via A89 reduced to hourly.

Sunday only direct link to Asda Armadale/Tippethill Hospital/Whitburn (Council contracted Service 6 still available but does not offer a complete replacement).

Direct link to Edinburgh still possible.

Bathgate
Increased, more direct services to Livingston Terminal.

Direct link to Kirkton Campus introduced.

Direct link to Edinburgh still possible.

Links to Stoneyburn, West Calder Loganlea and Addiewell maintained but journeys are significantly longer.

Links to Blackridge maintained.

Birniehill/Whiteside
Frequency of journeys into Bathgate increased to every 30 mins.

Direct link to Edinburgh lost. Passengers require to change service at Bathgate or Livingston Terminal.

Blackburn
All buses now operate via Elm Grove/Ash Grove

No First services operate along East Main Street between the Cross and Redhouse. However Blue Bus service 701 continues to operate hourly along this corridor.

Direct link to Kirkton Campus introduced.

Faster, more direct link to Livingston Terminal

Reduced frequency to Bathgate (every 30 Mins)

Direct link to Edinburgh/Edinburgh Airport lost. Passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal.

No direct service to Stoneyburn, West Calder, Loganlea or Addiewell

Blackridge

Links to Bathgate maintained.

No longer a direct link into St John's hospital grounds. New service operates via Alderstone Road.

SD Travel commercial service 150 continues to operate Blackridge-Armadale Bathgate via A89.

Broxburn/Uphall
Increased frequency to Edinburgh Off-Peak from upto every 15 mins.

Reduced peak frequency to Edinburgh to every 15 mins.

More journeys to Winchburgh & Edinburgh Airport available.

Link to South Queensferry removed. Council contracted Service 7 provides these links in morning and evenings but does not offer a complete replacement.

Hourly Link to Bathgate & Armadale via A89 maintained.

Carmondean/Livingston North
Much improved service to Livingston Terminal from 1 to 8 bph (4* service 25 & 4 * service 26).

Direct link to Bathgate only available from Deans North

Craigshill
Better balanced service 15-minute frequency to Livingston Terminal

Direct link to Edinburgh lost. Passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal or use Fastlink to connect to Edinburgh-bound services

Direct Service to Winchburgh & South Queensferry removed. Council contracted Service 7 provides these links in morning and evenings but does not offer a complete replacement.

Craigswood no longer served.

Direct service to Bathgate lost. This would require a change at Livingston Terminal.

Craigshill to Inveralmond Community High School link lost.

Dechmont/Deer Park
Withdrawn link to Livingston Terminal and Edinburgh.

Stagecoach X51 provides hourly links between Deer Park & Livingston Terminal

Council contracted service 31 provide hourly links between Dechmont & Livingston Terminal.

Dedridge
Better balanced service 15-minute frequency to Livingston Terminal

All buses operating on same side of road to Livingston Terminal

Direct link to Edinburgh lost. Passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal

No direct service to Bathgate, West Calder Stoneyburn, Loganlea & Fauldhouse. Connections to these areas can be made by changing at Livingston Terminal.

Lizzie Bryce Roundabout no longer served. Council contracted service 40 continues to provide links here but does not offer a complete replacement.

Dedridge West Road will only be served in one direction

East Calder/Wilkieston
Faster link to Livingston Terminal (not via Dedridge)

Main Street off-peak reduced to every 60 mins

Main Street no evening or Sunday service

Direct link to Bathgate removed. To make this journey, passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal.

Reduced Off-peak frequency to Edinburgh to every 60 mins

Eliburn
Improved service to Livingston Terminal from every 15 mins

Direct links to Seafield, Blackburn & Whitburn withdrawn.

Eliburn Road direct link to Edinburgh lost. Passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal.

Fauldhouse
Faster, more direct link to Bathgate.

Reduced service frequency to both Livingston via Stoneyburn, Longanlea & West Calder.

Journey to Bathgate reduced to every 30 mins, but is now more direct.

No direct link to Armadale/Asda Armadale/Tippethill Hospital (Council contracted Service 6 still available but does not offer a complete replacement).

Houston Industrial Estate
Grange Road no longer served.

Howden South Road
No longer served - First Services operate via Alderstone Road.

Council Contracted service 31 provides hourly service here.

Kirknewton Frequency Maintained, service number change only.
Knightsridge/Ladywell
Better headway with 15-minute frequency to Livingston Terminal

Direct link to Edinburgh lost. Passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal or use Fastlink to connect to Edinburgh-bound services

No direct link to Bathgate. Passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal

New service to Carmondean South introduced.

Livingston Village
No direct link to St John's Hospital (into grounds). Passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal or alight on Alderstone Road.

Direct Links to Bathgate & Armadale lost.

Direct Link to Whitburn introduced.

Direct link to Edinburgh lost. Passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal.

Longridge
Frequency of journeys to Bathgate reduced to every 30 mins, but is now more direct.

No direct link to Armadale/Asda Armadale/Tippethill Hospital. (Council contracted Service 6 still available but does not offer a complete replacement).

New direct links to Stoneyburn, Loganlea & West Calder introduced (every 30 mins).

Mid Calder
Faster link to Livingston Terminal (not via Dedridge)

Reduced Off-peak frequency to Edinburgh to every 30 mins

Direct link to Bathgate removed. To make this journey, passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal.

Calderpark Road (South) no longer served. Council contracted service 40 continues to provide links here but does not offer a complete replacement.

Pumpherston Frequency Maintained, service number change only.
St John's Hospital
Less direct links, turning circle not used by 21, 22, 23, 24, & 25. Connections available to these services on Alderstone Road on 7/8 min frequency.

Stoneyburn/Bents
Faster route to Livingston Terminal (not via Dedridge)

Reduced frequency to Fauldhouse/West Calder (every 30 mins)

No direct link to Blackburn (Service 803 removed)

New direct Link to Whitburn introduced.

Link to Bathgate still possible but journeys is now significantly longer, via Whitburn

West Calder
Balanced 15-minute frequency to Livingston Terminal introduced.

Faster route to Livingston Terminal (not via Dedridge)

Reduced frequency to Fauldhouse (every 30 mins)

No direct link to Blackburn (Service 803 removed)

Link to Bathgate still possible but now significantly longer, via Whitburn.

Whitburn
More journeys to M8J4 industrial estate

East Whitburn link to Bathgate now every 30 mins

Faster, more direct link to Livingston Terminal

Frequency of journeys to Bathgate reduced to every 30 mins, but is now more direct.

Sunday only direct link to Armadale/Asda Armadale/Tippethill Hospital (Council contracted Service 6 still available but does not offer a complete replacement).

Direct link to Edinburgh/Edinburgh Airport lost. Passengers require to change service at Livingston Terminal.

New direct links to Stoneyburn, Loganlea and West Calder introduced (every 30 mins).

Winchburgh
Direct links to South Queenferry removed. Council contracted Service 7 provides these links in morning and evenings but does not offer a complete replacement.



New link to Edinburgh Airport & Kirkliston available.

Please note that a decision on the changes to the Service 38 have yet to be taken by the First Bus Larbert Depot therefore the impact on the Linlithgow, Philpstoun and Bridgend areas is still unknown.

 

[smtglasgow]

That West Lothian document appears to confirm a review for Larbert (and one at Bannockburn would make sense). With town services dying a death all over the UK it will be interesting to see what happens in Stirling and Falkirk – the Stirling locals in particular always seem dead. Larbert and Bannockburn are obviously the weaker part of the business, but they’ve got some good inter-urban routes that could be developed, so hopefully some improvements amongst the cuts. Maybe a review of their zonal fares might help – still some eye-watering weekly ticket prices.

Slightly off topic, but the men in yellow jackets are out in force in the East End of Glasgow with clipboards and tablets, so perhaps the reviews are actually Scotland-wide?

 

[overthewater]

The trouble is certain town centres are dire, Kirkcaldy is just awful and people ask why has the services to the bus station been cut? Go to the bus station, high street or the shopping centre and they're all very quiet. Subway in the town centre has closed down Falkirk has gone the same way, apart from big Watts brothers and Wikos the town centre is just as bad and there plan to close the local M&S... There is Big retail park just across the road from the Town centre, which is going rather well..

WL Council Doc; seems to be missing out on Wilkeston, you would think it would be highlighting the council service No40. WLC have been crap at this type of thing for years. I do believe the council has had a meeting already ( this afternoon) with First over these changes, I get the feeling there will be some changes to the current plans. Ie this is the bottom line plans there hope to get away with but like everything some things will be rolled back

Just to say, there is House development money still on going around Whichburgh and Kirkliston... Whinchburgh still got a bit to go in new housing and schools...

 

[overthewater]

There will be changes due to the passenger feed back. Alot of feedback has already appeared. Its still hoped to push ahead for 30th July as the change over date. Its possible Forth valley changes might get pushed back? Either way First is getting alot of feedback.

 

[overthewater]

if we're going by the same patten and expect the forth valley change to happen in 13th August ie when the schools go back. It should appear tomorrow or over the next week? If not maybe the recent feedback has caused a bigger headache?

 

[Jordan Adam]

Slightly off topic, but the men in yellow jackets are out in force in the East End of Glasgow with clipboards and tablets, so perhaps the reviews are actually Scotland-wide?

With Aberdeen there's certainly lots of talks with management regarding Bridge Of Don, with a very large scale review inevitable next year due to the opening of AWPR soon which will speed up journey times, reduce running time and thus reduce PVR freeing some buses and drivers which can be dispatched elsewhere.

I would go in to detail but it's very off topic here!

 

[Sybic26]

Re comment by overthewater regarding start dates for services revisions, Clackmannanshire, Falkirk and Stirling Council schools resume on Monday August 20 and West Lothian schools resume on Tuesday August 21.

 

[overthewater]

Re comment by overthewater regarding start dates for services revisions, Clackmannanshire, Falkirk and Stirling Council schools resume on Monday August 20 and West Lothian schools resume on Tuesday August 20.

My mistake! so its next FriDay at the earliest then West Lothian are not changing with the school dates, its hope for the 30th July.

 

[smtglasgow]

Larbert and Bannockburn always seem to rely on schools work much more than other parts of First. Is that contract in Dunfermline still going? Of course Balfron (which always seems to be overlooked) would probably close if the Balfron High contract was lost.

 

[overthewater]

Larbert and Bannockburn always seem to rely on schools work much more than other parts of First. Is that contract in Dunfermline still going?

Yes, it even has an outstation.

Of course Balfron (which always seems to be overlooked) would probably close if the Balfron High contract was lost.

Plus the other council tenders :P

 

[Observer]

The only reason they take on so much school work is that the councils struggle to find other operators to take on the work.

At times they can be rather greedy, but it seems that as long as the councils want to pay peanuts for the jobs, what can you expect?

 

[DuncanS]

Falkirk has gone the same way, apart from big Watts brothers and Wikos the town centre is just as bad and there plan to close the local M&S.

Close one of the M&S in Falkirk, one which has clearly been on the chopping block since they opened the other shop a couple of years ago. Its been obvious to everyone that its days were numbered.

Places like Falkirk need to have First react to the where the passengers want to go, far too many buses serving Newmarket Street when the retail centre of the town is now several hundred yards away and is very sporadically served in comparison.

 

[Observer]

Close one of the M&S in Falkirk, one which has clearly been on the chopping block since they opened the other shop a couple of years ago. Its been obvious to everyone that its days were numbered.

Places like Falkirk need to have First react to the where the passengers want to go, far too many buses serving Newmarket Street when the retail centre of the town is now several hundred yards away and is very sporadically served in comparison.

There isn't much spaces for buses at the retail park. There's two bus stops outside it and that's that. No space for expansion.

They did consider taking some traffic away from Newmarket Street and going straight to the bus station but people objected to that so it didn't happen. More people get off there than the dump of a bus station anyway.

Speaking of...
https://www.falkirkherald.co.uk/news/will-there-be-an-east-end-exit-by-bus-firm-1-4750964

Rumours have been flying around over the last few weeks about the future of Falkirk Bus Station as the town’s very own East End soap opera continues.

Claims First Bus were withdrawing from their base in Callendar Road – some people are certain they are leaving in July and making Newmarket Street their new Falkirk station – seem to be a little premature, with the director of the bus firm himself stating they were still seeking clarification from owners of the site on certain matters.

First Scotland East managing director Andrew Jarvis: “We are aware that a number of local shops have been served with notices to leave the various properties that form Falkirk Bus Station by the current owners.

“First Scotland East have not received any notices to date and are seeking clarification from the owners on their proposals for the various properties.”

The Falkirk Herald talked to a number of businesses located at the bus station site, including Quick Stop News, Oliphants and Kiltpin, and discovered none of them had received any notices to vacate the premises.

What they had received was notification of the owner’s plans for two vacant properties at 15 to 17 and 19 Callendar Riggs.

Douglas Hannigan, who owns the bus station site, believes people have got the wrong end of the stick about the situation.

Speaking from his home in Florida, Mr Hannigan said: “I got a phone call last week telling me bus drivers had been telling people the bus station was shutting down in July. So I phoned the council to try and find out what was going on.

“We have just had planning permission granted to create seven flats in the vacant properties including the former Crockets shop, and form four small shops – no one is getting evicted.

“It’s annoying when you hear things like this because businesses like Oliphants are doing really well at the bus station and we have put in five new companies so far. We also have three tenants looking to go into the four new shops we will be creating.”

The planning applications, both granted permission on May 22, are for alterations to shopfronts and change of use of first and second floor shops to form a total of seven flats.

Mr Hannigan, who said he was concerned about the current situation with Marks and Spencer, believes Falkirk Council missed a trick when it did not purchase Callendar Square Shopping Centre to use it as its new council HQ.

The centre suffered two heavy blows in succession when retailers TK Maxx announced in 2014 they were leaving Callendar Square for the Central Retail Park. Then in 2016 BHS closed its doors for good.

Before Callendar Square was purchased last year, Falkirk Council leader Cecil Meiklejohn stated the council was not looking at the premises as a potential replacement municipal buildings because it was simply not large enough to use as a headquarters.

Mr Hannigan said: “The council can help the town by moving into the town centre. It’s common sense. Everyone wants Falkirk to grow. I always try to let businesses grow because if they cannot make money then how can they pay rent?”

Now living in the USA, Mr Hannigan returns home at intervals throughout the year and says he was shocked by the state of Falkirk town centre on his last visit.

He said: “It’s terrifying. If you walk up and down the High Street now it doesn’t even feel safe. I only come back four times a year so the changes I see are kind of shocking.”

Falkirk Bus Station has been under fire for a number of years – and has even been branded an “eyesore” on a number of occasions.

In the past the rest of the town “fed” off business the bus station generated but the economic problems that have dogged the last decade hit the bus station particularly hard, with shops closing and the structure falling into disrepair.

It is a prime example of what can happen in tough financial times when hard to come by investment has gone elsewhere – with a refurbished High Street and tourist attractions like Falkirk Wheel, the Keplies and Helix getting all the funding and the visitors.

A few years ago historian and Falkirk Herald columnist Ian Scott said: “There is no doubt the current state of the bus station is an embarrassment to a town which is doing everything it can to attract visitors to historic gems like Callendar House or modern marvels like the Wheel and Helix.

“First impressions count and I’m afraid we will be judged by many on this rundown, unwelcoming and obviously unloved gateway. I met friends there last year and they were so disappointed I couldn’t get them away from the place quick enough.”

The bus station has come up regularly in the chambers of Falkirk Council with councillors bemoaning the sorry state of the once thriving location.

They were concerned its decline as a result of a lack of any serious investment over the years has contributed to a lack of interest in developing the east end of the town.

Unfortunately the situation is not helped by the fact the council has very little land interest in the area, making it almost impossible to apply for funding from government agencies to regenerate the site.

 

[overthewater]

Council nor any public body wanted to spend any money on the site, even during the good times, while First had NO money to operate a decent bus service let along upgrading a bus stances.

Upper Newmarket Street would require some work especially to the northern ( east bound ) Stance, to make it larger at least.

 

[overthewater]

People are still moaning this will mean, it will cost twice as much since you might have to changes buses. Do these people not use zone tickets????

Right now they an offer for unlitmed travel around L zone for £2... Is current network bar Edinburgh... It really has shown alot of people up.

If there want pay full fares let them..

 

[GusB]

People are still moaning this will mean, it will cost twice as much since you might have to changes buses. Do these people not use zone tickets????

Right now they an offer for unlitmed travel around L zone for £2... Is current network bar Edinburgh... It really has shown alot of people up.

If there want pay full fares let them..

I'm not au fait with Midland Bluebird operations at all, but is enough being done to promote zone tickets? I only ask because I'd still be buying returns if it hadn't been for a helpful driver pointing out that a) dayrider tickets were available, and b) they were far cheaper and better value if I was making an onward journey on a different route. Now that we have The Internet, this shouldn't really be an issue, but on my most recent journey I still found that I received better information by telephoning my local office to obtain fares advice. In the end, I got the bus into town and took the train to my final destination - the time saving alone made up for the extra few quid.

If an operator has a ticket that offers bloody good value, they should be shouting it from the rooftops and getting more bums on seats.

 

[overthewater]

They do have big poster on the buses saying it's only £2 instead of £4. You will spot them as you entry the bus, Plus Twitter and the website.

 

[GusB]

They do have big poster on the buses saying it's only £2 instead of £4. You will spot them as you entry the bus, Plus Twitter and the website.

You have a fair point there. On one hand you need to convince your existing customers that it's better value to use one ticket over another, but at the same time you need to encourage new customers onto the route as well. You're not going to do that by placing posters on a bus that nobody would consider using in the first place.

If their marketing department has any sense, they should be pinpointing all the possible tourist attractions within the area that could be reached with that £2 fare. In fact, they should be pinpointing all the places that could be in reach for a tenner. Make some deals with the local tourist attractions, cafes etc., and then advertise by whatever means to get more backsides on seats.

I don't wish to drift too much off-topic, but Stagecoach Bluebird has just announced Sunday runs to Dufftown to visit local distilleries. Apart from the fact that there should have been a decent local service in the first place, one of their selling points should be that one should be able to visit, have a dram and not worry about having to drive home!

 

[overthewater]

There is no marketing department. Its Scotland wide now, even then Manchester has been dealing with stuff.

 

[GusB]

There is no marketing department. Its Scotland wide now, even then Manchester has been dealing with stuff.

I rest my case!

 

[KendalKing]

On one hand you need to convince your existing customers that it's better value to use one ticket over another, but at the same time you need to encourage new customers onto the route as well. You're not going to do that by placing posters on a bus that nobody would consider using in the first place.

For the last 40+ years, I have never understood why operators, can advertise the local car salesroom on the back of their buses, but unable to advertise their own network of bus services.

If their marketing department has any sense, they should be pinpointing all the possible tourist attractions within the area that could be reached with that £2 fare. In fact, they should be pinpointing all the places that could be in reach for a tenner. Make some deals with the local tourist attractions, cafes etc., and then advertise by whatever means to get more backsides on seats.

 

[alphabravo43]

I don't wish to drift too much off-topic, but Stagecoach Bluebird has just announced Sunday runs to Dufftown to visit local distilleries. Apart from the fact that there should have been a decent local service in the first place, one of their selling points should be that one should be able to visit, have a dram and not worry about having to drive home!

Midland Bluebird has been promoting this sort of similarly, with the new discovery route branding used for the B10/10A service as it includes Glengoyne Distillery in this.

 

[overthewater]

But try and find a first timetable for the route....

 

[alphabravo43]

But try and find a first timetable for the route....

Monday-Friday https://www.firstgroup.com/south-ea...10/C10&routeid=20493891&operator=25&print=pdf
Saturday https://www.firstgroup.com/south-ea...10/C10&routeid=20493891&operator=25&print=pdf
Sunday https://www.firstgroup.com/south-ea...10/C10&routeid=20493891&operator=25&print=pdf

Coming from Balfron, there has also been timetables readily available in the local library.

 

[overthewater]

Coming from Balfron, there has also been timetables readily available in the local library.

Before we go any further, what version is sitting in the Local library? First bus verison OR white paper version by Stirling council?

 

[Volvodart]

Something is afoot below, but not much on yet!

https://www.firstgroup.com/south-east-and-central-scotland/have-your-say

Have your say
First Scotland East would like to invite you to Have Your Say on the proposed service changes to our Falkirk network at our Customer Roadshow Consultation Day on DATE from TIME at LOCATION (if on a bus be specific about location i.e. stance, Falkirk Bus Station etc.)

We value your feedback and want to give you the opportunity to have your say on the proposed changes. See below for the detailed map of the proposed changes and summaries of the alterations by service and area:

Get information from John Scott

Here are the proposed service timetables:

Get timetable information from Radi, Gordon, Phil

Service 1 - Dunipace - Denny - Bonnybridge - Falkirk - Redding - Polmont - Maddiston - Linlithgow - Bridgend https://www.firstgroup.com/uploads/...lmont - Maddiston - Linlithgow - Bridgend.pdf

Service 2 - Limerigg - Slammanan - Falkirk - Grangemouth - Bo'ness

Service 3 & 4 - Falkirk - Grangemouth - Falkirk

Service 4B - Croy - Kilsyth - Banton - Banknock - Bonnybridge - Camelon - Falkirk

Service 5 - Hallglen - Falkirk - Langlees - Falkirk - Hallglen

Service 6 - Falkirk Wheel - Tamfourhill - Falkirk - Carronshore - Stenhousemuir - FVRH

Service 6A - Camelon - Falkirk - Carronshore - Stenhousemuir - FVRH

Service 7 - Camelon - Falkirk - Antonshill - Stenhousemuir - FVRH

Service 8 - Camelon - Falkirk - Stenhousemuir - FVRH - Bonnybridge - Fankerton

Service 29 - Falkirk - Shieldhill - Avonbridge - Armadale - Falside - Bathgate - Broxburn

Service 38 - Stirling - Plean - Larbert - Falkirk - Linlithgow - Kirkliston - Edinburgh

Service 391 - Falkirk - Larbert - Kincardine - Dollar Academy

Service F14 - Falkirk High Station - Falkirk - Middlefield - Etna Rd

Service F16 - Stirling - Fallin - Airth - Carronshore - Falkirk - Westquarter

Service F25 - Falkirk - Corentin Court - Falkirk - Polmont - Redding - Wallacestone - Maddiston - Standburn

Service X37 - Falkirk - Bonnybridge - High Bonnybridge - Cumbernauld - Glasgow

Service X39 - WALLACE MONUMENT - STIRLING - GLASGOW via Stirling University - Denny - Cumbernauld - Muirhead - M80

Remember to give us your feedback on the network changes via SURVEY MONKEY link

 

[Observer]

Some interesting changes, I see they are basically wanting to bring the old 1 back with Bridgend being served, looks like the 38A is getting dropped which isn't any surprise.

Service 8 seems to be the F11 being taken on commercially with a few changes whilst the F8 is being put into the F16.

4B could probably be renamed considering that it's not going into Grangemouth any more.

Also note that the proposed 1 timetable does not list Falkirk Bus Station anywhere and I can't see a few other routes go into there for timing reasons, a sign of things to come?