I knew about the 50km running you mentioned but wasn’t aware that the displays could could be set as you explained. I wonder if the couple I saw waiting at Newquay made any enquiries with First regards their journey?
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I knew about the 50km running you mentioned but wasn’t aware that the displays could could be set as you explained. I wonder if the couple I saw waiting at Newquay made any enquiries with First regards their journey?
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Bicton and duchy routes don’t track. Restarted 6th September
CornwallBus
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Cornwall College contracted services never should have tracked as there is no Ticketer machine data. This includes Bicton, Stoke Climsland etc.
Goldfish62
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The revised Atlantic Coaster timetable is now on line. It's five return journeys between Newquay and Padstow, with one back-projected from Perranporth.
Also the Dartmoor Explorer is back to two return journeys from either end.
If the timetables are to be believed the Mousehole has had its Sunday service completely withdrawn, although as it was running yesterday I assume this is an error.
Also the Dartmoor Explorer is back to two return journeys from either end.
If the timetables are to be believed the Mousehole has had its Sunday service completely withdrawn, although as it was running yesterday I assume this is an error.
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Weekends still showing the 0950 from Tavistock on the revised online times
Goldfish62
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Thanks. That would make sense.
On the Buses
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No it’s an issue with the feed. Some are missing currently and should push through today.
TheGrandWazoo
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That on bustimes?
The First Kernow website has the winter timetable booklet. Atlantic Coaster times are listed until 30th Oct, as is the Lands End timetable, whilst Falmouth and D5 have no end dates on them.
Mousehole has a 20 min daytime service, hourly evenings, and half hourly Sunday daytimes - very impressive.
Goldfish62
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No, on the First website under timetables. Ignore the book.
TheGrandWazoo
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Oh, right - get you now. That's rather confusing.No, on the First website under timetables. Ignore the book.
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Hopefully the book will be removed pending update. Better not to have it there rather than a partly outdated version.
vla50
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Has 33158 been withdrawn or is this another case of it just being removed from Bustimes by someone?
Callum15632
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I think it has been withdrawn because it hasn't seen service since around about the 21st August.
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vla50
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But then 32277 was off road for about a month or two yet made a swift return.
Callum15632
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Yeah I know but 33158 has been off for nearly a month. Yes I get what you are saying but they might have enough buses to see off the plaxton presidents 1 by 1. 33176 LR02 LYV the vamooz one is gone off fleet I think it's gone for scrap. Do you know about 33158 any chance OTB?
On the Buses
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Yes. 33158 is VOR at Summercourt. 33176 is VOR at Camborne but beyond economic repair and donating parts to one of the Lizard open tops
VOR = Vehicle off road
vla50
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So I assume 33158 will then return?
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I don’t know what’s wrong with it. The last Trident Presidents are clinging on now with the 5 E500s on their way amd the last 5 MMCs due back shortly.
I noticed the following today:-
Truronian Volvo 20804 on the southbound M5 motorway near Avonmouth at around 1735.
Solo SR 53254 on the southbound M5 at Sedgemoor around 25 minutes later.
20805 on the eastbound A30 near Okehampton at 1850 and displaying service number 890.
Truronian Volvo 20804 on the southbound M5 motorway near Avonmouth at around 1735.
Solo SR 53254 on the southbound M5 at Sedgemoor around 25 minutes later.
20805 on the eastbound A30 near Okehampton at 1850 and displaying service number 890.
Engine issues... More cruddy buses for the Kernow fleet then?!
TheGrandWazoo
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Sometimes vehicles have unit failures - it happens. These are 12 year old vehicles so not brand new but neither are they archaic.
First Kernow are pursuing a sensible policy of vehicle replacement and have replaced significant elements of the fleet with new vehicles that constitute a fairly high proportion of the all day PVR. Aside from the Mousehole, there aren't too many major routes that have "cruddy buses"?
vla50
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Well said and the fleet has certainly improved through the constant investment put in especially when you compare it to what it was like 10 years ago.
Accelerator59
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I also saw 20805 leaving Newham, Truro around 3pm as I was leaving Tesco. Must of been heading to where you saw it.
An Exeter driver covered driver sickness on the Truro college 890 to and from Launceston yesterday.
Jordan Adam
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The E500s are good buses. The most common major part to fail on them is the drive axles, although hopefully First should have that under control now. The engine issues are not that common, 38206 had a fuel injector issue which was causing the engine to run rough and put out thick clouds of black smoke. However it's fixed now.
If anything Kernow have been lucky as 38202 and in particular 38225 are two of the best E500s in the fleet.
They're generally still in good condition, they could do with a interior retrim, but at the same time they're still presentable.
Callum15632
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Does anyone know if 37182/37183 and 37185 on their way to Cornwall now? Also does anyone know if 33420/21/22 are on their way to Bristol now?
TheGrandWazoo
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First SW received B7TL Geminis to update the fleet. Some had benefitted from mid-life refurbs in Bristol whilst others hailing from other OpCos hadn't been so treated; they have retrimmed the worst examples AFAIK. It may be that similarly, they will assess and take a view.
However, receiving some 12 year old vehicles is a world away from the past where they would receive 15 yr old Tridents to dislodge the last Olympians, and even that's better than when 18-20 year old Atlanteans (albeit in a condition that belied their years) to Devon from Aberdeen.
As it is, FSW is fast approaching a fairly balanced age profile where once the last ex London Tridents go, there will be a number of 2005 Tridents joined by 2004-2007 B7TLs and the 2009 e500s concentrated on the "tertiary" network (for want of a better phrase). There's a slew of 2016-2018 e400mmcs augmented by 2018 e200mmcs and Solos concentrated on the "primary" network. Yes, there's a gap in the 2010-2015 age bracket but there's a dearth of suitable vehicles in First Bus in that age bracket for various reasons, and arguably they don't need vehicles of that vintage at the moment in Kernow.
It'll be interesting to see what Somerset receive to oust their remaining Tridents when that cascade begins - more B7TLs?
Both 37185 and 33422 are out in service with their current respective opcos, so not on their way between opcos today.
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All the Geminis that hadn’t been previously retrimmed in e leather have been retrimmed in moquette now, and a few that were already in e leather
Starting this next week and spread out. At least one E400 is awaiting an engine before, one a rebuild.