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Extend every other 17 down to the Blue Bowl, u turn like the 4 used to before the lights or follow a one way loop, as that covers for the 16 around Hanham Common. Then send the 16 via Courtney Road, Weston's Way, Wraxall Road, Craven Way, Woodward Drive, Parkwall Road down to Park Estate and then as the 17A to Keynsham.

This would definitely be the best course of action, as there are not enough services serving that side of Kingswood, other than the 42 along Cock Road and the 17 which will replace the 17A along Westons Way at a pitiful two hourly frequency which, for an area of that size and population, is pants quite frankly.
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Not going to let that go then Wazoo?

Wazoo hasn't mentioned this before? I have, however, yet only once?
 
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This would definitely be the best course of action, as there are not enough services serving that side of Kingswood, other than the 42 along Cock Road and the 17 which will replace the 17A along Westons Way at a pitiful two hourly frequency which, for an area of that size and population, is pants quite frankly.
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Wazoo hasn't mentioned this before? I have, however, yet only once?

I think it was about the TTL in Saltford but not certain how I've upset him (or if I have).

Still, it's a sunny day on Stagecoach East :D Everything running to time
 
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This would definitely be the best course of action, as there are not enough services serving that side of Kingswood, other than the 42 along Cock Road and the 17 which will replace the 17A along Westons Way at a pitiful two hourly frequency which, for an area of that size and population, is pants quite frankly.
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Wazoo hasn't mentioned this before? I have, however, yet only once?

I thought the 16 and 86 were serving Courtney Road to replace the 17A?
 

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I thought the 16 and 86 were serving Courtney Road to replace the 17A?

Possibly. If so, then happy days. My best friend lives just behind the Tesco Express on Westons Way and works at UWE and since the withdrawal of the X18 and the soon to be 81 she has only been able to walk to the Tennis Court Inn and get the 19, which suffers from extremely poor reliability in the rush hour. If the 16 was to serve Westons Way then that would be great as she'd have a direct bus to UWE!
 

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Had an old friend visiting over the weekend so thought I’d post where we went. As well as a day on Stagecoach East, two days in the South West of which this is day one. Hope it’s of interest.

We set off from Midsomer Norton on the 379 on Saturday morning, probably my last trip on the route. From the Town Hall stop, we got 47547 so pretty much standard. There were about 5/6 passengers as we nurdled our way through Paulton etc before decamping at Temple Cloud. Next was a fairly lightly loaded 376 and a Streetdeck. Around Bristol, we’re spoilt for them so we don’t appreciate the fact that they’re still pretty rare so my mate was pleased to have 35161. It was a nice ride across the Mendips – BTW, what’s the ID of the ex Stagecoach decker at the Riding School near Ston Easton?

After breakfast at Wells, we wandered down to the bus station and waited for the 0945 77. Sadly, it wasn’t a B10BLE or something else more “niche” but instead a B7RLE in the shape of 69206. This is in better shape than the similar aged Kernow examples internally that are due and was a reasonable machine. Loadings were reasonable to Somerton but then really picked up with probably 30+ arriving in Yeovil though to be fair, if there’s a journey likely to be busy, it’s that one!

It was time for a coffee in the timewarp that is Yeovil bus station. The radio was Absolute 80s and it seemed to be very much in keeping with the décor!! We observed the local First fleet which looks fairly ropey; I know it’s been upgraded but the Solos look iffy (esp the red ex Slough ones) whilst the ex Bristol Darts looked very unkempt IMO. We were leaving First for a while, picking up the 68 to Yeovil Junction on a SWC Solo SR. Sadly, the driver was already late and that wasn’t helped by her chatting to some youngish enthusiast; the lack of urgency meant we arrived late at Yeovil Junction, missing our train. Now, Yeovil Junction has limited charms especially on a Saturday morning with the café closed! Anyway, 58 minutes later, we managed to catch our train to Axminster. It’s been a while since I’ve been there and we wandered out and into the town. It was time for lunch and we went into an American Diner (!) who was hardly quick with the order. In fact, we ended up getting it packaged up with a view to sneaking onto the bus and eating it there. We needn’t have worried; the 30 was 15 minutes late so we actually eaten it at the bus stop having established that the 30 hadn’t arrived on the way in.

Our steed was a former Glasgow Trident 32843. Now, I’m often a defender of First against unwarranted criticism. The only plus point was that the ride/seats were reasonably comfortable. However, it was a shocking state internally. The seats were a mix of fabrics and often faded. The interior was filthy and battered and it still had Scottish era adverts. All that and 30 mins late into Taunton; I sympathise that the money may not have been available to refurbish such vehicles and they’ve a shortish life ahead of them but it doesn’t take away from the fact that it was late and it was rough.

Our plan was then to head north but time was slightly against us. However, I’d identified a “Brucie Bonus” as we got the 4 from the Parade with a mid-life e200 45115 (the last new bus to Taunton depot – excluding the temporary P&R Streetlites?) It was looked a little jaded but it went well with a reasonable load as we headed out to Lane Estate. We did the loop and then got off on the inbound route as we crossed over the Bridgwater Road. Still, it was a bit of a change to see some urban housing! We walked back onto Bridgwater Road (having just missed a B7L) and got another Trident 32844. Again, a very tired machine but not as bad as our earlier one and I’d anticipate that the 21 will benefit from the cascades that are imminent. We encountered a friendly fellow passenger at the stop who then offered us sweets…. We were suspicious but he seemed just a friendly if eccentric type. Our steed rolling and screamed across to Bridgwater but we were getting off early. However, the Huntworth stop had gone so we ended up further towards the town and had to walk back down the A38.

Yep, we were getting the Falcon. However, we then noticed an anomaly. When I’d got it before, it picked up from the layby. However, Traveline and various bus apps my mate uses had it down for the Compass Inn. We checked out both locations; nothing. No timetable and not even a bus stop flag. We decided to wait at the Compass Inn and, of course, we were wrong, seeing the Falcon disappearing round the roundabout and back to the M5. It started raining so we wandered into Huntworth Services to shelter and grab a Costa before wandering out an hour later. This time we did succeed and got 54325. These are really great machines and we enjoyed the comfort as we headed to Bristol Airport. This was late on a Saturday afternoon but it had about 12 passengers on, all but one for the Airport. From this, and other observations, I could see the Falcon staying but maybe not running past the Airport in future. It does seem to be doing well on that route. However, got to say to Stagecoach - spend £xm on new coaches yet fail to put a bus stop flag up?? Come on!!!

We were late into Bristol so the planned 38 to Keynsham was already heading through Broad Quay (an almost empty B9). Instead, we had a short walk to the bus station and our next and final bus was waiting for us, providing some slight symmetry to the day, with 47544. This was lightly loaded and went well. Entering Keynsham, our missed 38 exited in front of us. It was empty – if it’s like that at 8pm on a Saturday night, you can see why First are cutting it. My other thought was I was glad we had missed it in Bristol as it would’ve been too fine a connection in Keynsham. Instead, we enjoyed the last of the daylight as we sped through High Littleton and Timsbury, concluding my mate’s introduction to First in Somerset.

Hope the observations and the trip out were interesting; day two (Sunday) will be more urban!!
 

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Had an old friend visiting over the weekend so thought I’d post where we went. As well as a day on Stagecoach East, two days in the South West of which this is day one. Hope it’s of interest.

We set off from Midsomer Norton on the 379 on Saturday morning, probably my last trip on the route. From the Town Hall stop, we got 47547 so pretty much standard. There were about 5/6 passengers as we nurdled our way through Paulton etc before decamping at Temple Cloud. Next was a fairly lightly loaded 376 and a Streetdeck. Around Bristol, we’re spoilt for them so we don’t appreciate the fact that they’re still pretty rare so my mate was pleased to have 35161. It was a nice ride across the Mendips – BTW, what’s the ID of the ex Stagecoach decker at the Riding School near Ston Easton?

After breakfast at Wells, we wandered down to the bus station and waited for the 0945 77. Sadly, it wasn’t a B10BLE or something else more “niche” but instead a B7RLE in the shape of 69206. This is in better shape than the similar aged Kernow examples internally that are due and was a reasonable machine. Loadings were reasonable to Somerton but then really picked up with probably 30+ arriving in Yeovil though to be fair, if there’s a journey likely to be busy, it’s that one!

It was time for a coffee in the timewarp that is Yeovil bus station. The radio was Absolute 80s and it seemed to be very much in keeping with the décor!! We observed the local First fleet which looks fairly ropey; I know it’s been upgraded but the Solos look iffy (esp the red ex Slough ones) whilst the ex Bristol Darts looked very unkempt IMO. We were leaving First for a while, picking up the 68 to Yeovil Junction on a SWC Solo SR. Sadly, the driver was already late and that wasn’t helped by her chatting to some youngish enthusiast; the lack of urgency meant we arrived late at Yeovil Junction, missing our train. Now, Yeovil Junction has limited charms especially on a Saturday morning with the café closed! Anyway, 58 minutes later, we managed to catch our train to Axminster. It’s been a while since I’ve been there and we wandered out and into the town. It was time for lunch and we went into an American Diner (!) who was hardly quick with the order. In fact, we ended up getting it packaged up with a view to sneaking onto the bus and eating it there. We needn’t have worried; the 30 was 15 minutes late so we actually eaten it at the bus stop having established that the 30 hadn’t arrived on the way in.

Our steed was a former Glasgow Trident 32843. Now, I’m often a defender of First against unwarranted criticism. The only plus point was that the ride/seats were reasonably comfortable. However, it was a shocking state internally. The seats were a mix of fabrics and often faded. The interior was filthy and battered and it still had Scottish era adverts. All that and 30 mins late into Taunton; I sympathise that the money may not have been available to refurbish such vehicles and they’ve a shortish life ahead of them but it doesn’t take away from the fact that it was late and it was rough.

Our plan was then to head north but time was slightly against us. However, I’d identified a “Brucie Bonus” as we got the 4 from the Parade with a mid-life e200 45115 (the last new bus to Taunton depot – excluding the temporary P&R Streetlites?) It was looked a little jaded but it went well with a reasonable load as we headed out to Lane Estate. We did the loop and then got off on the inbound route as we crossed over the Bridgwater Road. Still, it was a bit of a change to see some urban housing! We walked back onto Bridgwater Road (having just missed a B7L) and got another Trident 32844. Again, a very tired machine but not as bad as our earlier one and I’d anticipate that the 21 will benefit from the cascades that are imminent. We encountered a friendly fellow passenger at the stop who then offered us sweets…. We were suspicious but he seemed just a friendly if eccentric type. Our steed rolling and screamed across to Bridgwater but we were getting off early. However, the Huntworth stop had gone so we ended up further towards the town and had to walk back down the A38.

Yep, we were getting the Falcon. However, we then noticed an anomaly. When I’d got it before, it picked up from the layby. However, Traveline and various bus apps my mate uses had it down for the Compass Inn. We checked out both locations; nothing. No timetable and not even a bus stop flag. We decided to wait at the Compass Inn and, of course, we were wrong, seeing the Falcon disappearing round the roundabout and back to the M5. It started raining so we wandered into Huntworth Services to shelter and grab a Costa before wandering out an hour later. This time we did succeed and got 54325. These are really great machines and we enjoyed the comfort as we headed to Bristol Airport. This was late on a Saturday afternoon but it had about 12 passengers on, all but one for the Airport. From this, and other observations, I could see the Falcon staying but maybe not running past the Airport in future. It does seem to be doing well on that route. However, got to say to Stagecoach - spend £xm on new coaches yet fail to put a bus stop flag up?? Come on!!!

We were late into Bristol so the planned 38 to Keynsham was already heading through Broad Quay (an almost empty B9). Instead, we had a short walk to the bus station and our next and final bus was waiting for us, providing some slight symmetry to the day, with 47544. This was lightly loaded and went well. Entering Keynsham, our missed 38 exited in front of us. It was empty – if it’s like that at 8pm on a Saturday night, you can see why First are cutting it. My other thought was I was glad we had missed it in Bristol as it would’ve been too fine a connection in Keynsham. Instead, we enjoyed the last of the daylight as we sped through High Littleton and Timsbury, concluding my mate’s introduction to First in Somerset.

Hope the observations and the trip out were interesting; day two (Sunday) will be more urban!!
Hi Wazoo,
Saw two chaps looking and taking photos of buses at Yeovil last Saturday about the time you were there. I had got off 69213 on 58 and went into cafe for a drink. The two chaps I saw had left the cafe and we're looking at L55 BUS (YP52 CUU) on the SWC 11 then one with orange spiky hair took a photo of one of the red Solos as it arrived. So it may have been you.
I caught 67600 out on the late running 77 at 11 45 10 down.
If it was you did you see Gemini 37586 which was in bottom shed at the garage on Reckleford? Cheers Mike R
 

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Hi Wazoo,
Saw two chaps looking and taking photos of buses at Yeovil last Saturday about the time you were there. I had got off 69213 on 58 and went into cafe for a drink. The two chaps I saw had left the cafe and we're looking at L55 BUS (YP52 CUU) on the SWC 11 then one with orange spiky hair took a photo of one of the red Solos as it arrived. So it may have been you.
I caught 67600 out on the late running 77 at 11 45 10 down.
If it was you did you see Gemini 37586 which was in bottom shed at the garage on Reckleford? Cheers Mike R

We were coffee-ing so don't think it was us. Didn't have long at Yeovil so didn't get to the depot. What's a Gemini doing at Yeovil? Didn't think they did much other than running repairs?

Also, we did see that L55 - what on earth is it?

Howe
 

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We were coffee-ing so don't think it was us. Didn't have long at Yeovil so didn't get to the depot. What's a Gemini doing at Yeovil? Didn't think they did much other than running repairs?

Also, we did see that L55 - what on earth is it?

Howe
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BUS 55 formally YP52 CUU is the unique Scania N94UB/Castrosua Carsa.
 

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Currently on 37620 on possibly the last ever X74 for me! Just by Filton McDonald's now.

New arrival from Manchester 33754 is on the 75, just approaching Filton College towards Cribbs.
 

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All First Wessex vehicles vehicles have their MOTs at SMV Commercials in Yeovil.

BUS 55 formally YP52 CUU is the unique Scania N94UB/Castrosua Carsa.

Ahhh... That makes sense (though a little surprised that there's nowhere suitable in Weymouth)

Thanks for the info on L55. First thoughts were it was a Scania but couldn't work it out for sure. My hunch was it was some ex Demo that had never "took off"

Assume that B7RLEs are now commonplace on the 58 or is that a reflection on the reliability of the assorted Darts and Solos? I imagine it's quite a nice journey on a B7RLE to Wincanton - not a service I've done in donkey's years when it was various ex EN/Thamesway/Beeline Darts
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Currently on 37620 on possibly the last ever X74 for me! Just by Filton McDonald's now.

New arrival from Manchester 33754 is on the 75, just approaching Filton College towards Cribbs.

There's a few "last evers" at the moment. Saturday was my last ever 379 which was a handy service.

Hopefully, I'll manage a first and last trip on the Belles Express before it goes!

Nice to see the ex GM e400s in service already.
 

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There's a few "last evers" at the moment. Saturday was my last ever 379 which was a handy service.

Hopefully, I'll manage a first and last trip on the Belles Express before it goes!

Nice to see the ex GM e400s in service already.

Oh yes, forgot you lived down that neck of the woods! I guess the 178 will have to up its game a little!

I've also not had a journey on the Belles Express either. I'd like to. I'd also like to do a journey on the 51!
 

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Oh yes, forgot you lived down that neck of the woods! I guess the 178 will have to up its game a little!

I've also not had a journey on the Belles Express either. I'd like to. I'd also like to do a journey on the 51!

I've used the late 178s in the past for a night in Bristol; losing those too :( Looks like Bath will be the preferred destination

When I think back to just the last few years, I've done a few trips that have now gone from the First map. Some now operated by other firms, and others gone altogether.

I've done the 51 and the 379 but also...

  • 184 Frome to MSN
  • 224 Bristol to Dursley
  • 310 Dursley to Thornbury
  • 161 Frome to Shepton
  • 234 Frome to Trowbridge
  • 231 Chippenham to Bath
  • 375 Wells to Bridgwater

On the flip side, there's been routes (or sections that I've done) that have appeared like

  • 16 Minehead to Cannington
  • 77 Thornbury to Southmead
  • 174 Shepton to MSN
  • X49 Staple Hill to Yate
  • 82 Chipping Sodbury to Charfield (now going)
  • 42 Keynsham to Kingswood (now gone)
  • 72 Clifton to UWE
  • X74 UWE to Centre
  • 10 Minehead to Porlock

They'll be others that I don't recall. Guess multi-operator tickets like AvonRider and Wilts Day Rover will have to suffice :)

Shame Somerset doesn't have such a ticket but hey, Somerset CC don't do that sort of thing
 

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Just had a driver on the 72 sailing past me on Rupert Street, even though I clearly put my hand out! Was waiting on Rupert Street for a 72 or 9. I could see a purple fronted double decker ahead turning out of Union Street. "Ah that's the 72" I thought to myself. But upon entering Rupert Street the driver was driving at a fair speed in the OUTSIDE lane. What's he doing in the bloody outside lane I thought to myself. But I put my hand out. He showed no signs of slowing down to stop. So I stepped out into the road(there was no other traffic nearby coming) too with my hand still out so he could clearly see me. He definitely saw me as I seen him turning his head to look over at me. But he just sailed on by! Absolutely bloody disgraceful! Why did he not stop when there was someone putting their hand out? Why an earth was he driving in the outside lane of Rupert Street instead of the nearside lane ready to potentally stop for any passengers waiting at the 72 bus stop??? See, these are the sort of things things happening which really cheese me off with buses. Drivers who don't bother stopping for passengers even though they put their hands out!

Luckily I had only a few minutes longer wait for the 9 to get to the same location. But I am going to report this to First Bristol. I don't want or expect any compensation as I wasn't inconvenienced on this particular occasion. But this sort of behaviour from bus drivers is just completely unacceptable. And incidents like this should be reported, so that drivers are made aware that these sort of incidents should not be happening.

What's the best address to write to complain to about this? Hengrove Depot or Lawrence Hill Depot?
 
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Just had a driver on the 72 sailing past me on Rupert Street, even though I clearly put my hand out! Was waiting on Rupert Street for a 72 or 9. I could see a purple fronted double decker ahead turning out of Union Street. "Ah that's the 72" I thought to myself. But upon entering Union Street the driver was driving at a fair speed in the OUTSIDE lane. What's he doing in the bloody outside lane I thought to myself. But I put my hand out. He showed no signs of slowing down to stop. So I stepped out into the road(there was no other traffic nearby coming) too with my hand still out so he could clearly see me. He saw me. But he just sailed on by! Absolutely bloody disgraceful! Why did he not stop when there was someone putting their hand out? Why an earth was he driving in the outside lane of Rupert Street instead of the nearside lane ready to potentally stop for any passengers waiting at the 72 bus stop??? See, these are the sort of things things happening which really cheese me off with buses. Drivers who don't bother stopping for passengers even though they put their hands out!

Luckily I had only a few minutes longer wait for the 9. But I am going to report this to First Bristol. I don't want or expect any compensation as I wasn't inconvenienced on this particular occasion. But this sort of behaviour from bus drivers is completely unacceptable. And incidents like this should be reported, so that drivers are made aware that these sort of incidents should not be happening.

What's the best address to write to complain to about this? Hengrove Depot or Lawrence Hill Depot?

I've had must luck filling in the form on the website! Yes it goes to Southampton but they do get in contact with the depot and get a reply!
 

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I've had must luck filling in the form on the website! Yes it goes to Southampton but they do get in contact with the depot and get a reply!

Yes I'll do that now. Am fuming about that incident. And it definitely deserves to be reported!

Gone into the Contact Us link on the website and selected "I have had an issue with one of your services" and in the What do you want to tell us about field there is a pre-selected "Driver failed to stop" option in the drop-down box.

Rupert Street is a crap place to be waiting for buses as it is. Especially when there are other buses parked there whilst you're trying to look out for and signal a bus to stop. But in my particular incident there was no other buses parked there in the way at the time. Driver was driving on the farside lane at a fair speed instead of at a slower speed in the nearside lane, put my hand out, and he just sailed on buy and failed to stop! Unacceptable!

EDIT: Complaint about this now sent via the website. I look forward to their reply within 14 days!
 
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Just had a driver on the 72 sailing past me on Rupert Street, even though I clearly put my hand out! Was waiting on Rupert Street for a 72 or 9. I could see a purple fronted double decker ahead turning out of Union Street. "Ah that's the 72" I thought to myself. But upon entering Union Street the driver was driving at a fair speed in the OUTSIDE lane. What's he doing in the bloody outside lane I thought to myself. But I put my hand out. He showed no signs of slowing down to stop. So I stepped out into the road(there was no other traffic nearby coming) too with my hand still out so he could clearly see me. He definitely saw me as I seen him turning his head to look over at me. But he just sailed on by! Absolutely bloody disgraceful! Why did he not stop when there was someone putting their hand out? Why an earth was he driving in the outside lane of Rupert Street instead of the nearside lane ready to potentally stop for any passengers waiting at the 72 bus stop??? See, these are the sort of things things happening which really cheese me off with buses. Drivers who don't bother stopping for passengers even though they put their hands out!

Luckily I had only a few minutes longer wait for the 9 to get to the same location. But I am going to report this to First Bristol. I don't want or expect any compensation as I wasn't inconvenienced on this particular occasion. But this sort of behaviour from bus drivers is just completely unacceptable. And incidents like this should be reported, so that drivers are made aware that these sort of incidents should not be happening.

What's the best address to write to complain to about this? Hengrove Depot or Lawrence Hill Depot?

You can just do it online. Although the 72 is run by Hengrove, First WoE's Customer Services are actually based in Southampton :lol:

I have a feeling Lawrence Hill may have a small office that'll send it on?

Edit: I've just seen your reply
 

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You can just do it online. Although the 72 is run by Hengrove, First WoE's Customer Services are actually based in Southampton :lol:

I have a feeling Lawrence Hill may have a small office that'll send it on?

Edit: I've just seen your reply

Think you'll find that its actually based in Norwich.
 

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I gather that the Streetlite WF 55106, and sister 55107, have moved on from Buses of Somerset and are now with First Leicester.
 

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Does anyone know if the phone number they give (which is a Bristol number) is actually based in Bristol?

Sent from my XT1032 using Tapatalk
 

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No the Customer Services team, even though it is a Bristol number are based in Norwich. Lost Property is the only local based team..
 

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Ahhh... That makes sense (though a little surprised that there's nowhere suitable in Weymouth)

Thanks for the info on L55. First thoughts were it was a Scania but couldn't work it out for sure. My hunch was it was some ex Demo that had never "took off"

Assume that B7RLEs are now commonplace on the 58 or is that a reflection on the reliability of the assorted Darts and Solos? I imagine it's quite a nice journey on a B7RLE to Wincanton - not a service I've done in donkey's years when it was various ex EN/Thamesway/Beeline Darts
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There's a few "last evers" at the moment. Saturday was my last ever 379 which was a handy service.

Hopefully, I'll manage a first and last trip on the Belles Express before it goes!

Nice to see the ex GM e400s in service already.

Hi Wazoo, Yes B7RLEs are getting more frequent nowadays on the three 58 diagrams although last Saturday 1 working was a Dart.
Nice surprise today was 69211 on the Abbey Manor Estate - Cavilier Way route.
Not the first time one of this class has worked the route but a pleasant change.
As far as start of week we have had 69210,211 and 213 present here.
See Ron gave you the gen on the SWC Bus which was with Kings Ferry before SWC acquired it. They used it on a Chatham Dockyard service and other routes in that area of Kent. Cheers, Mike R
 

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It used to be in Southampton. I had a letter from them last year so they must have changed.

Yeah, Empress Road went in a cost saving measure. They only have one for the South and that's in Norwich.
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Part two of the weekend's trips out.

This time, we invested in a Freedom Travelpass. First time I've used one and handy it is too (though costs a little more). After much pouring over the ticket machine, our first driver of the day (from Wells depot so I guess he doesn't issue many) was able to sell us a ticket and off we went on 69440 on the 1042 173 from Radstock. After breakfast in Bath, we had a choice of either train or bus to Bristol. We decided on the 39 with 37358. Bad decision - temporary traffic lights just near Saltford Service Station. Instead of 40 minutes, it took almost 1h 10 to get to Temple Meads!

We still had enough time to get our train, the 13:23 to Avonmouth. What a lovely little journey though we had the entertainment of a person disputing the validity of their ticket and being forcibly ejected at Redland! After that, we trundled through to Avonmouth, and then caught the 3 to Cribbs. We had former Bath B7 32352 - a really nice bus, very comfortable and hardly a rattle on it. Contrast that to our next bus, 32946 on the 19. It may go well but it's a shed. None existent seat cushions and more rattles than Mothercare.

We arrived at a deserted UWE. How odd to get there and see no Wessex vehicles; shows how effective the job First have done on Rotala! We got my final X74 - 32350 with "on loan to First Bristol" notice. Another fine bus for 13 years old but we bounded along the M32, before slipping effortlessly onto 33968.

These MMCs are lovely vehicles; I think the Gemini just shades it but they are really nice and much better than the Streetdeck. We reached Blackboy Hill and leapt from one 2 (not a onetwo) onto another. Sadly, not another MMC but an Orange Gemini with 37324 that deposited us at Temple Meads before we boarded (mindful of our delays earlier) a 125 to Bath.

Having arrived in Bath, we looked at our options. I saw that we could get the 14 up to Banwell Road which duly arrived as 44915. I have to say that it seems a lot older than 7 years old as we wheezed and coughed our way up Bloomfield Road. Perhaps these might be better served as B6 replacements in Somerset? A place with fewer hills!! Our last bus was a special treat for my mate, as we did the 179. I guaranteed him a Solo and 53815 duly arrived for a delightful late afternoon run although with a variation I've not experienced before; with the Tunley road closed, we operated via Camerton and even dropped a passenger at Daglands! We then regained the route and skipped our way around with a reasonable load and finally into Radstock. Day done!
 

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Thank you Wazoo. Very interesting report there! I may type out my report now!

Got to Cardiff Central with the intention of going to either Filton Abbey Wood or Temple Meads. Unfortunately, the 0900 to Plymouth was cancelled, so instead I had to take the 0855 to London and alight at Parkway. As I was going to Parkway, I had to decide on what to do when I arrived.

I remembered I haven't been to Bradley Stoke for a while, and I also realised that the X74 is soon to go, so I opted for that.

First bus of the day (pardon the pun) was on the 73, with B9 Gemini 37623. Nothing new there. The journey went fairly quickly to the Willowbrook Centre. After a quick stop in Tesco to pick up a new phone charger, my next journey was on the 1015 X74 departure, in the hands of fellow B9 Gemini 37620. Again, nothing new, and saw the typical plethora of vehicles along the way. Worth noting was, as previously mentioned, 33754 on the 75 to Cribbs Causeway, a recent transfer from Manchester. The journey went fairly quickly, and we arrived at Cabot just before 11am.

After a few shops I had to pop to and a coffee in town, I net decided to have a journey on the 3. I always opt for the 1/2 and the 75 when I go to Cribbs Causeway, so I opted for a change. Walking around the corner to Union Street, ex-Leicester B7/ALX400 32288 was sat at the stop outside Poundland. However there seemed to be a delay for some reason, as there were a lot of drivers around the area. It then transpired that it had come into contact with another vehicle or railings, as a fellow driver was taking pictures of the side of the bus which was heavily scratched and dented. In spite of this, it still went back into service and we departed fairly quickly.

The journey up Whiteladies Road was of no real interest, neither was the route along Sea Mills. Shirehampton Village was fairly quaint, but the real excitement was going through Avonmouth. I had absolutely NO idea just how industrialised it really is! Offices and factories everywhere. A really interesting site, if not to say the least.

I then remembered I've always wanted a journey on Bristol's only suburban railway line, remembering the 3 serves Avonmouth station. As we had already passed it, I decided to get off in Henbury and change onto another 3 in the return direction, this time fellow ex-Leicester 32073. Again, like 32088, looking a little tired internally and bumpy but generally sounding well.

Alighting at McLaren Road, Streetlite 47560 was on the 18A. I walked around to Avonmouth station, which sits in the shadow of two huge industrial factories. Waiting for the 1434 to Temple Meads, newly refurbished 150247 appeared. I boarded and enjoyed the journey to Temple Meads. I was surprised to find out that a single with a 16-25 railcard was only £1! The conductor said the line is heavily subsidised so that was why. Interesting none the less!

From Temple Meads, I boarded Streetdeck 35105 on the 71, on a short journey to Baldwin Street. I then changed onto another B7/ALX 400, 32012, on the 42 from The Centre to Cock Road Chapel in Kingswood. Whilst waiting at the fountains, 66301 and 66325 appeared on the 43 and 45 respectively, 32353 must also have transferred from Bath as that also was on the 45 and 37595 was on the 903!

The journey on 32012 dragged a lot, especially in the hot weather. Lawrence Hill is a complete nightmare in the peaks. We finally got to Kingswood about 45 minutes later!

More fun tomorrow!
 

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After a few shops I had to pop to and a coffee in town, I net decided to have a journey on the 3. I always opt for the 1/2 and the 75 when I go to Cribbs Causeway, so I opted for a change. Walking around the corner to Union Street, ex-Leicester B7/ALX400 32288 was sat at the stop outside Poundland.

the real excitement was going through Avonmouth. I had absolutely NO idea just how industrialised it really is! Offices and factories everywhere. A really interesting site, if not to say the least.

Glad you had a good day out too!

I'm assuming you mean 32088. You do say 32088 later on so assume it was a slip of the finger.

Avonmouth and excitement aren't usually words that go together. There is a lot to interest you though. There are fewer factories now, replaced with distribution centres as we continue to move from a manufacturing to a service economy. The large factories that I think you refer to are redundant flour mills.

Coincidence how we've both ticked off the Avonmouth line in a matter of days. Nice trip out on there
 

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Glad you had a good day out too!

I'm assuming you mean 32088. You do say 32088 later on so assume it was a slip of the finger.

Avonmouth and excitement aren't usually words that go together. There is a lot to interest you though. There are fewer factories now, replaced with distribution centres as we continue to move from a manufacturing to a service economy. The large factories that I think you refer to are redundant flour mills.

Coincidence how we've both ticked off the Avonmouth line in a matter of days. Nice trip out on there

I did indeed, sorry! Been a long day.

Avonmouth certainly wasn't exciting per se but it was interesting to see. I noticed a large Asda distribution centre and also saw Wessex's depot! Such fun.

The 3/4 could do with some newer vehicles I think, or cascades from somewhere.

I'm glad I did the Avonmouth line, just wondering if it's worth clearing the extra step to the Beach of Severn!
 

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I did indeed, sorry! Been a long day.

Avonmouth certainly wasn't exciting per se but it was interesting to see. I noticed a large Asda distribution centre and also saw Wessex's depot! Such fun.

The 3/4 could do with some newer vehicles I think, or cascades from somewhere.

I'm glad I did the Avonmouth line, just wondering if it's worth clearing the extra step to the Beach of Severn!

I could've done all the line on Sunday but was concerned about missing the 625 - didn't want to stay there for an hour!!

As for the 3/4, I expect it will get some newer fleet as cascades and PVR cuts work through
 

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