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Kieran1990

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anyone know why First Leeds have cut the 51, 52 at Leeds Centre and put on new 38 and 39 to serve Meanwood Road and on to Moortown? 52 and 53 Morley - Meanwood go back a long way.
The reliability was awful and it struggled to keep to time across Leeds.
As a regular user on the Northern leg (now 38/39) I can’t really grumble at the new service. Some of timing is a bit unthought out but very rare to find cancellation and lateness is minutes not half hour +
 
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The reliability was awful and it struggled to keep to time across Leeds.
As a regular user on the Northern leg (now 38/39) I can’t really grumble at the new service. Some of timing is a bit unthought out but very rare to find cancellation and lateness is minutes not half hour +
Wonder if they will do more uncoupling then?
 

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According to Bus Lists on the Web (buslistsontheweb.co.uk), the following are Wrightbus GB Kite Electroliners:
ML73DZE
ML73DZF
Another set of StreetDeck Electroliners:
ML73DZG
ML73DZH
ML73DZJ
ML73DZK
ML73DZM

Does this complete the York Kite order?
(none of the aboves fleet numbers have been confirmed yet)
 

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The new Halifax Bus Station partially opened today, with buses that used the temporary bus station moving into the new bus station (services 22, 255, 502, 508, 548, 549, 571, 576, 681, 682 plus various schools and other buses evenings and Sundays)
 

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The new Halifax Bus Station partially opened today, with buses that used the temporary bus station moving into the new bus station (services 22, 255, 502, 508, 548, 549, 571, 576, 681, 682 plus various schools and other buses evenings and Sundays)

It's been reported that more bus routes used it this morning as a large part of the town centre was closed following stabbings in the early hours.

⚠️SERVICE UPDATE - 501/503⚠️

Due to accessibility issues in Halifax town centre, inbound 501 & 503 services are currently diverting via Prescot st, Church st, Winding road into bus station Stand L.

Outbound services to operate Reverse route back out of Halifax.


#HALIFAX ⚠️SERVICE UPDATE⚠️
The following buses for today whilst the roads are closed will be using Halifax Bus Station.
503 > Huddersfield > STAND L
510 / 511 / 512 > Mixenden > STAND K
521 / 522 / 523 > Illingworth > STAND M
541 / 542 > Norton Tower > STAND K
 
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It's been reported that more bus routes used it this morning as a large part of the town centre was closed following stabbings in the early hours.
Oh is that what all of the road closures and coppers were for this morning. Wondered what it was as I was driving to work
 

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According to Bus Lists on the Web (buslistsontheweb.co.uk), the following are Wrightbus GB Kite Electroliners:
ML73DZE
ML73DZF
Another set of StreetDeck Electroliners:
ML73DZG
ML73DZH
ML73DZJ
ML73DZK
ML73DZM

Does this complete the York Kite order?
(none of the aboves fleet numbers have been confirmed yet)
Bus Lists on the Web (buslistsontheweb.co.uk) has now confirmed the following information for the Electroliners:
Fleet - Registration
36521 - ML73DZG
36522 - ML73DZH
36523 - ML73DZJ
36524 - ML73DZK
36525 - ML73DZM
 
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Bus Lists on the Web (buslistsontheweb.co.uk) has now confirmed the following information for the Electroliners:
Fleet - Registration
36521 - ML73DZG
36522 - ML73DZH
36523 - ML73DZJ
36524 - ML73DZK
36525 - ML73DZM
These are uni liveried buses. They look interesting (Unobus copypaste, a Ray Stenning masterclass) to say the least

Image from an internal page shows 36521 in a two-tone pink/purple unfinished uni bus livery
 

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It is fair to say an interesting colour scheme on these Electroliner’s, very reminiscent of UNO’s livery.
 

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These are uni liveried buses. They look interesting (Unobus copypaste, a Ray Stenning masterclass) to say the least

Image from an internal page shows 36521 in a two-tone pink/purple unfinished uni bus livery
It is fair to say an interesting colour scheme on these Electroliner’s, very reminiscent of UNO’s livery.
It’s clear they’ve stuck with the base Electric Purple scheme and just changed the front colour - Pink is currently used for the Uni buses so they’re using it again for these.

Any resemblance with Uno Bus is pure coincidence because of the colours.
 

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Must have missed this...


"West Yorkshire Fire & Rescue Service (WYFRS) was called to reports of a large vehicle on fire in Broadway, in Bradford city centre, at 3.04pm on Monday.

Three crews – two from Bradford and one from Shipley – rushed to the scene."


Unsure so far of the cause but arson must be a strong contender looking at the pics etc... The usual nonsense on Social Media that it's an "electric bus" on fire and that's the cause of it, pretty sure these are diesel (albeit micro hybrids)...
 

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Must have missed this...


"West Yorkshire Fire & Rescue Service (WYFRS) was called to reports of a large vehicle on fire in Broadway, in Bradford city centre, at 3.04pm on Monday.

Three crews – two from Bradford and one from Shipley – rushed to the scene."


Unsure so far of the cause but arson must be a strong contender looking at the pics etc... The usual nonsense on Social Media that it's an "electric bus" on fire and that's the cause of it, pretty sure these are diesel (albeit micro hybrids)...

I'd be surprised if that isn't arson, given where the damage is...
 
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Engine’s fine - also the only ‘hybrid’ part about these is a flywheel used to recover energy while braking and going downhill with high revs, there’s no battery hybrid whatsoever.

Almost certainly arson or an electrical wiring fire due the the location of the fire
 

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Bus Lists on the Web (buslistsontheweb.co.uk) has now confirmed the following information for the Electroliners:
Fleet - Registration
36521 - ML73DZG
36522 - ML73DZH
36523 - ML73DZJ
36524 - ML73DZK
36525 - ML73DZM
I missed 36526-530 when first inputted, but buslistsontheweb.co.uk has confirmed the last 4 StreetDeck Electroliners, and last 2 GB Kites:
36* - StreetDeck Electroliner
63* - GB Kite Electroliner
Fleet - Registration
36526 - ML73DZN
36527 - ML73DZO
36528 - ML73DZP
36529 - ML73DZR
63668 - ML73DZE
63669 - ML73DZF
 

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It looks like this cancellation has been rescinded now?
I was told on a west yorkshire thread about this. It's a good service and now they are using the buses moved from Halifax - the 36313 lot with high back seating. They are really good up hills.
 
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It looks like this cancellation has been rescinded now?
Yep
It appears they have cancelled the withdrawal registration. It hasn't merged with the others, may not since it is quite different to the 181/185.
It's been a good while since we've had wrong/dodgy registration. I was convinced it was getting withdrawn
 

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Have all the Streetlites gone from York now? Thanks
Looking at the First York fleet list linked, I don’t see any Wrightbus StreetLites, so they must all be gone.
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Why have the Kites been introduced on route 6 and not route 10 where at both ends people are very loyal and are continuously very aware/concerned about the quality and service levels of the route?
When do the Bendy buses go?
 
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Why have the Kites been introduced on route 6 and not route 10 where at both ends people are very loyal and are continuously very aware/concerned about the quality and service levels of the route?
When do the Bendy buses go?
Kites can’t go on 10s until the route is changed to avoid Leeman Road - 2s and 10s will be the last routes to go electric for this reason

Bendys and a small batch of B7s (I imagine 69366-69369) for the 10s will be the last diesel buses to leave, most likely after the Christmas Market rush where the bendys are really needed

Expect more uni liveried deckers to be the next EVs to be introduced allowing the withdrawal of 35927-35936 then the rest of the kites last

Also, at least some (if not most/all) of Versas 49901-49912 are being painted in the new purple/silver livery. 49912 away for paint at the moment
 

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Why have the Kites been introduced on route 6 and not route 10 where at both ends people are very loyal and are continuously very aware/concerned about the quality and service levels of the route?
When do the Bendy buses go?
Are people on the 6 even more loyal?

I’m being tongue in cheek but perhaps they are putting them on the most lucrative route or, as new vehicles, keeping them closer to home

EDIT: Just seen @dodecahedron67 comment - recall Leeman Road has been mentioned before
 

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Thanks - does that mean that the Kites are too high to go under the Leeman road and station bridges because of the batteries on the roof?
 

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Kites can’t go on 10s until the route is changed to avoid Leeman Road - 2s and 10s will be the last routes to go electric for this reason

Bendys and a small batch of B7s (I imagine 69366-69369) for the 10s will be the last diesel buses to leave, most likely after the Christmas Market rush where the bendys are really needed

Expect more uni liveried deckers to be the next EVs to be introduced allowing the withdrawal of 35927-35936 then the rest of the kites last

Also, at least some (if not most/all) of Versas 49901-49912 are being painted in the new purple/silver livery. 49912 away for paint at the moment
Any ideas where the Diesel StreetDecks are due to go?
 

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Any ideas where the Diesel StreetDecks are due to go?
Some of them have gone to First Potteries, as below (not my photo)
 
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Any ideas where the Diesel StreetDecks are due to go?
5 total (3 more to go) to potteries, not sure about the other 7

Edit: I believe 36520-36529, the uni liveried streetdecks, have multicolour destination displays like the Norwich batch
 
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First York 39601 (BV23NNT) Volvo B7L DD arrives in York for test run.

This bus is having a temporary exchange with First York 36515 which did a temp transfer to First South Yorkshire, this bus will be doing service in York in the next coming days. Here is First York 39601 (BV23NNT) Volvo B7L DD doing some test run
Tweet/Post: https://twitter.com/transportinyork/status/1724825743631196185
 

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