For how much longer is the Scotrail amended timetable likely to be in place ?

[Watershed]

Scotrail are selling tickets for travel in August from Mallaig to Glasgow Queen St on the 1010 which under the current amended timetable is not running. I assume anyone who buys tickets for that train has to travel on the 0603 departure instead ?

That, or refund their ticket, or be re-routed onto the bus and then the coach.

 

[HL7]

Wether or not Drivers accept the offer, it's still just another sticking plaster applied to the real issue, that's a seven day roster!
Something consecutive franchise holders have kicked down the Road for the past thirty years. Now it's in Government hands it will have to be dealt with, no longer got Abellio or anyone else to hide behind.

They are trying deal with it now as it’s part of the pay offer. An agreement to set up a joint working party with the aim of having Sunday as part of the working week by the December 27 timetable.

Whether a common ground can be found on implementation is a different matter.

 

[6Z09]

They are trying deal with it now as it’s part of the pay offer. An agreement to set up a joint working party with the aim of having Sunday as part of the working week by the December 27 timetable.

Whether a common ground can be found on implementation is a different matter.

It's going to cost a few quid to solve that one.
So probably five years of temporary timetables, add in the age profile of Drivers, not a quick fix.

 

[HL7]

It's going to cost a few quid to solve that one.
So probably five years of temporary timetables, add in the age profile of Drivers, not a quick fix.

I‘ll be surprised if it happens TBH.

This has been brought up already by scotrail/Transport Scotland to ASLEF and they think they can get it for free.

 

[bigmoose]

On specific dates, a key point to note (and sorry if I’ve missed this further up the thread) is that the results of the ASLEF ballot on whether to accept the revised pay and conditions offer is due on 11 July. Mentioned in several news stories plus this recent (yesterday) ScotRail press release - https://www.scotrail.co.uk/about-sc...issues-travel-warning-150th-open-championship

To quote from the press release, with my emphasis added:

While progress in these pay negotiations has been made and the drivers’ union ASLEF has put ScotRail’s latest pay offer to a referendum of its members with a recommendation to accept, the result of this vote will be announced on Monday, 11 July. However, without drivers returning to work rest days and overtime, the temporary timetable remains in place. The result of the ballot cannot be pre-judged and if the offer is accepted it will take a short period of time to restore services as these are based on driver availability and returning to previous rosters, however, ScotRail’s aim is to return to a full timetable at the earliest opportunity.

I fully understand the points made above (by those closer to the issue than me - I don’t work in the rail industry) regarding driver availability but the section I’ve highlighted suggests at least some intent by ScotRail to get back to the announced-then-canned May 2022 timetable. Perhaps this thinking is also behind the guess upthread of 15 July for normal(ish) service to be resumed.

Anyway, fingers crossed. I was hoping to use the Highland Explorer 153 this summer but it’s currently helpfully been binned for the height of tourist season. Not good for encouraging rail travel in general, and especially bad when we’re looking to add active travel and joined-up decarbonised journeys into the mix. Here’s hoping for better time(table)s ahead!

 

[Route115?]

What premium does rdw get? There would seem to be two issues. It can be cheaper for TOCs to rely on RDW so not surprisngly they do. I used to work for a TOC where there was a small premium for rdw but drivers might ask for (and often got) 12 hours pay. Secondly, as the basic salary has increased over time the need - and desire - to work rest days has decreased. These can only be addressed by hiring more staff. This was fine as long as passenger numbers and revenue were going up nicely. These days may be over, at least for a few years.

 

[Mag_seven]

It looks like the amended timetable will be scrapped in 10 days time:

ScotRail said if drivers begin doing overtime again a full timetable could return within 10 days.

For discussion of the deal please use this thread:

ASLEF accept (subject to members agreement) 5% Scotrail Pay Offer

News just in: The train drivers' union Aslef has rejected the latest 4.2% pay offer from ScotRail. The union's national executive said it would ballot for industrial action unless ScotRail offers further talks. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-61664953) Disappointing from the...

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And for discussion of any ongoing day to day disruption please use this thread:

Ongoing ScotRail disruption - Day to day discussion and updates.

Hope it is ok to start this discussion, I notice and support the closing of the original thread on the current situation at ScotRail but thought a day today discussion and updates type channel might be helpful as in some parts of the country it's half term holidays and people might be visiting...

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