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ChrisM66

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Only been here a few days and have read some good stuff however i am not familiar with some of the abreviations used in posts.

Would be good if there was a sticky thread explaining some of these abreviations and would help new members as we aint all dedicated enthusiasts.(assumes)


Cheers Chris.
 
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What don't you understand in particular?

The Fares thread use "CRS" codes, i.e. WBQ is railway speak for Warrington Bank Quay and is just something you have to get used to/learn.

Others:
ATOC - www.atoc.org
AFAIK - As far as I know
IIRC - If I recall correctly
IMO - In my opinon
CIS - Customer Information System
IECC - Integrated Electrical Control Centre
NLC - National Location Code, (each railway station/location/centre has a unique number)
TOC - Train Operating Company
The Manual - An internal railway publication detailing retailing arrangements/policy
BTP - British Transport Police
Avantix - A piece of software used to look up fares offline
Avantix Mobile - What most conductors use to issue tickets
 

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A DVT is when part of a Class 91 ends up on a long haul flight.
A DEMIC is any service operated by an FKTPE. ;)

I may not be being 100% truthful here.....


But I would say that they do get used far to often, and even regular staff become confused by new or little used terminonlogy - god help the passengers. We got told at GNER to avoid all abbreviations or terminology unless totally necessary.
 

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You are obviously not alone if the number of lists on the web are anything to go by.

There is another thread http://www.railforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=37271

Bear in mind that a given set of initials may mean different things in different contexts.

Then there is the jargon and local slang like "cess rail", "four foot", "back 'un" and so on.

Actually, Wikipedia isn't a bad reference source.

http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/square/ca14/ALYCIDON%20RAIL/trac.htm

http://www.railway-technical.com/LAAR.shtml

http://www.dft.gov.uk/site/help/abbreviations/

http://www.firstgreatwestern.info/acronyms.html
 

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Cheers for the reply and i have managed to work a few out,but some of the threads have lots of abreviations and lost me a little,i can appreciate rail staff will have their own language its the same in my game as a sparkie.

I came on here looking to gain as much info as possible with a view to joining the industry and the info i have read has been valuable but it would get tiresome if i have to ask what an abreviation is i dont understand and lets face it nobody likes to look stupid,so i thought a sticky with common abreviations and what they mean would be good.


Just a thought to help us newbies.:oops:
 
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The Fares thread use "CRS" codes, i.e. WBQ is railway speak for Warrington Bank Quay and is just something you have to get used to/learn

Took me a while to understand some of them!

The one to watch out for is BNS, which is Barnes, but some people use as shorthand for Birmingham New Street (BHM?).

Think of them like Airline codes (LHR = London Heathrow etc)
 

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MAN Manchester Airport (Airline IATA)
MAN Manchester Piccadilly (Railway CRS)
MIA Manchester Airport (Railway CRS)

Je suis tres confused.com
 

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MAN Manchester Airport (Airline IATA)
MAN Manchester Piccadilly (Railway CRS)
MIA Manchester Airport (Railway CRS)

Je suis tres confused.com

One of these that you quoted, MIA, was featured many years ago in an advertising campaign to get more people to fly from Manchester Airport.

The advertising agency came up with.....FLY VIA MIA...as a catchy turn of phrase.

Imagine the embarrassment at both the airport and the advertising agency when they had to urgently withdraw the campaign, as in airline terminology, MIA is MIAMI!!!:roll:

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Back to the matter on hand, some forum members use IMHO rather than IMO, as they are the very polite members ( H = Humble)
 

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Just a few to be going on with . . . .:lol:

AB = Absolute Block
ABCL = Automatic Barrier Crossing Locally Monitored
AHBC = Automatic Half Barrier Crossing
AOCL = Automatic Open Crossing, locally monitored
AOCR = Automatic Open Crossing, remotely monitored
AOM = Area Operations Manager
APT = Advanced Passenger Train
ARM = Asset Recovery Manager
ARS = Automatic Route Setting
ASC = Area Signalling Centre
AWS = Automatic Warning System (see TPWS)
CAPE = Train will not run. Cancelled from origin,
C&W = Carriage and Wagon
CET = Controlled Emission Toilet
COA = Change Of Aspect
COSS = Controller of site safety
CWR = Continuous Welded Rail
DRA = Drivers Reminder Appliance
DSD = Driver's Safety Device
DVD = Driver's Vigilance Device (Sometimes referred to as the VIG)
ECS = Empty Coaching Stock
ERTMS = European Rail Traffic Management System
ES = Engineering Supervisor
ELR = Engineers Line Reference
EPS = Enhanced Permitted Speed (used for tilt-enabled Class 390s)
EROS = Emergency Restriction of Speed
ESR = Emergency Speed Restriction (dont know what the difference is betteen these two)
FPL = Facing point lock (also EFPL economic facing point lock)
HABD = Hot Axle Box Detector
HOBC = High Output Ballast Cleaner
HPSS = High Performance Switch System
HSM = Hand Signalman
IBJ = Insulated Block Joint
IWA = Individual Working Alone
LUL = London Undergound Lines (?)
LWR = Long Welded Rail
MAS = Multiple Aspect Signal (usually colour light as opposed to semaphore)
MC = Machine Controller
MCB = Miniature Circuit Breaker
MCB = Manually Controlled Crossing with barriers
MSP = Measured Shovel Packing
NMT = New Measurement Train
NR = Network Rail
LXA = Level Crossing Attendant
MOM = Mobile Operations Manager
OHL or OHLE = Overhead Line (Equipment)
OTM = on track machine
OTMR = On Train Monitoring Recorder (the "spy in the cab")
OSS = Overspeed Sensor System
PICOP = Person In Charge Of Possession
PINE = Train will be terminated short of destination
PLB = possession limit board
PoSA = Proceed on sight authority
PSB = Power Signal Box
PSR = Permanent Speed Restriction
PW = Permanent Way
RA = Right away
RCF = Rolling contact fatigue
RETB = Radio Electronic Tken Block
RIO = Rail Incident Officer
RPI = Revenue Protection Inspector
RRAP = Road Rail Access Point
RRV = Road/Rail Vehicle
RSF = Right Side Failure
S&C = Switches and Crossings
S&T = Signls and Telelecomms (also Sick and Tired :) )
SCC = Signalling Control Centre
SIMBIDS = Simplified bi-directional signalling
SLU = Standard length unit (for calculating goods train lengths for loops etc.)
SPAD = Signal passed at danger (also SASPAD = Start against signal and passed at danger and SOYSPAD = Starting On Yellow Signal Passed At Danger)
SPATE = Speed Previously Advised Terminated Early
SPRS = Signal Post Replacement Switch
SPT = Signal Post Telephone
SSI = solid state interlocking
STP = Short term plan (a train working at short notice) see also VSTP
TBW = Temporaary Block Working
TCB = Track Circuit Block
TCF = Track Circuit Failure
TDM = Time Division Multiplex
TMD = Traction Maintenance Depot
TOPS = Total Operations Processing System
TPWS = Train Protection & Warning System (see also AWS)
TRTS = Train Ready To Start
TRSMD = Traction and Rolling Stock Maintenance Depot
TRUST = Train Running System TOPS
TSR = Temporary Speed Restriction
TSS = Train Stop System (on LUL)
UFN = Until further notice
UFN = Unpaid Fare Notice
UWC = User-worked Crossing
VSTP = Very Short Term Plan (see also STP)
WILD = Wheel impact load detector (also WHEELCHEX = Lineside detector for wheel flats)
WSF = Wrong Side Failure
WSP = Wheel slide protection
 
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Back to the matter on hand, some forum members use IMHO rather than IMO, as they are the very polite members ( H = Humble)

Some people will say it means honest and not humble, I always use it reffering to the former....
 

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LUL - London Underground Limited

LU - London Undgerground

LOROL - London Overground Rail Operations Limited

LO - London Overground

DLR - Docklands Light Railway

TfL - Transport for London

DfT - Department for Transport (also known as DaFT)

TOC - Train Operating Companies.

AW - Arriva Trains Wales

CC - c2c

CH - Chiltern Railways

XC - Arriva Cross Country

GR / EC - East Coast (Mainline Limited)

EM - East Midlands Trains

ES / E* - Eurostar

FC / FCC - First Capital Connect

GW / FGW - First Great Western

HT / FHT - First Hull Trains

TP / FTPE - First Transpennine Express

GC - Grand Central

HC - Heathrow Connect

HX - Heathrow Express

IL - Island Line

LM - London Midland

ME / MR - Merseyrail

LE / NXEA - National Express East Anglia

NT - Northern Rail

SR / FSR - ScotRail (FirstScotRail)

SW / SWT - South West Trains

SE - Southeastern

SN - Southern

VT - Virgin Trains
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CRS - Computer reservation system

NLC - National Location Code

TIPLOC - Timing Point Location

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That's just some


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You may find this website useful for finding CRS, TIPLOC and NLC's: http://deaves47.users.btopenworld.com/CRS/CRS0.htm



Hope this Helps (HTH)

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Google "the online railway dictionary tmr" and it should be the third result :)

Hope it helps :)
 

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Some people will say it means honest and not humble, I always use it reffering to the former....

Ah, yes, but I am FAR more polite than you are....:D:D

I can also spell referring better than you...in my humble opinion:roll:

I put this "humble" instead of "honest" comment in my posting as a humerous aside...not expecting someone at least 50 years younger than I not to have a sense of humour.:D:D
 

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A DVT is when part of a Class 91 ends up on a long haul flight.
A DEMIC is any service operated by an FKTPE. ;)

I may not be being 100% truthful here.....


But I would say that they do get used far to often, and even regular staff become confused by new or little used terminonlogy - god help the passengers. We got told at GNER to avoid all abbreviations or terminology unless totally necessary.

Sorry! When you were at where/ :lol:
 

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By the way if you see the word 'kettle' or 'kettles' in any of my posts the chances are that I am referring to steam locos, not something you make tea with
 

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Will make a note of that,my dad worked on the steam trains when he was a young un ,he was at bescot until he was called up for national service,he used to throw the coal in,he wanted to go on to the plate laying but after the army he never went back,i think he regretted this and still speaks fondly of his time on BR.He is in his 70"s now.
 

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That reminds me of WAGN = We're All Going Nowhere rather than West Anglian Great Northern

There were a good few in the past:

  • LTS = Little Train Set
  • GWR = God's Wonderful Railway
  • LNER = Late and Never Early
  • LMS = 'Ell of a Mess
  • Manchester, Sheffield & Lincolnshire = Mucky, Slow and Lazy
  • Midland & Great Northern = Muddle and Go Nowhere
  • LSWR = Long, Slow and Winding Railway (the company retaliated with the slogan Luxurious and Speedy Western Route)
  • London Chatham & Dover = Land 'em, Smash 'em and Over (their goods handling left something to be desired)
  • and
  • Railway Correspondence and Travel Society = Royal Corps of Train Spotters

Maybe we need some more now:
  • NXEA = Nothing Expected Ever Arrives
  • EC = Easy Company
  • EMT = Extra Miserable Trains
  • ATW = Absolute Total Waste
  • FGW = Flamin' Gone Wrong
  • SWT = Slow With Travel

No offence intended, I'm just trying to keep to the spirit of the old names.
 

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While we are on with nicknames, what was "The Withered Arm"? Was it just the North Cornwall Railway or the whole extension of the LSWR west of, say, Exeter?

Did the name come from Thomas Hardy's short story of 1888?
 
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