edwin_m
Veteran Member
The acceleration figure normally quoted applies only at low speed when the acceleration is limited by adhesion, and will be the same whether on electric or diesel power. However above a certain speed (usually around 20-30mph) the acceleration becomes limited by available power so the rate of acceleration will reduce. 0.75m/s/s or indeed 0.79m/s/s may be an average rate of acceleration but without knowing what speed it is from and to it is meaningless. A bi-mode train will have much more power available, and hence better acceleration at higher speeds, when in electric mode.That sheet is all you need to know, really. 0.79 m/s/s is the 222s rate of acceleration, while the most quoted for an 800 series so far is 0.75m/s/s - the electric speed of acceleration is supposedly 1.0m/s/s, but that has incorrectly been used for diesel performance as well. Max speeds are the same, so the empirical data suggests a diesel-powered bi mode will travel at best slightly slower than a 222 running at design standard.
The simplest comparative measure of performance is probalby the power to weight ratio, which I calculated on one of the Transpennine threads to be less for an 80x on diesel than for a 185, which has similar power and weight to a 222. I saw a mention somewhere that Hitachi may be looking to increase the number of engines on any 80x derivative for the MML.
The River Soar a few hundred yards west of the Parkway is the county boundary so both the Parkway and the power station site are in Nottinghamshire. The applicable planning authority is Ruschliffe Borough, and according to published HS2 documents they were unwilling to favour development and this is one reason why the HS2 station went to Toton instead of Parkway. I've seen something else which suggests they may have change their mind since then.I am inclined to agree on East Midlands Parkway. Pointless station which died before it even got going - the moment the local councils pulled out of subsidising a direct bus connection to the airport, it stopped being a viable prospect. The onward connections are atrocious and unsurprisingly nobody except a handful of hardy commuters from Kegworth use it. Leicestershire County Council are banking on Ratcliffe Power Station shutting down so they can build a housing estate there to generate more footfall, but by that time Toton HS2 hub will probably be open and the opportunity lost.
707s are a possiblility especially if the Corby workings were run by Thameslink, as the similarity with the 700s simplifies both maintenance and crew training. However if 110mph running was desired then it would be more difficult and possibly impossible to obtain approval for a 707, as its running gear is very different from that of the 350 or 360 so much of the work done to get approval for 110mph running for 350s wouldn't be transferrable to 707s.I have to ask. What about 707s instead of 379s, 350/2s or 360s