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Was a fantastic video, that. The departure shot at 2:05 sounded different from the previous Stadler UK products. It sounded quite loud when passing, and thats in electric!
Sounds like a jet passing you . Still be good to see them.in service
 

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Was a fantastic video, that. The departure shot at 2:05 sounded different from the previous Stadler UK products.
Reminiscent of the "do-re-mi-lok" (Siemens Eurosprinter) on OBB


Although Stadler have gone for an arpeggio - second inversion triad in B major, I think (F#, B, D#) - rather than a scale. (first three notes of "La Cucaracha")

Do-fa-la (or fa-do-mi depending on what key you are in)
 
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Reminiscent of the "do-re-mi-lok" (Siemens Eurosprinter) on OBB


Although Stadler have gone for an arpeggio - second inversion triad in B major, I think (F#, B, D#) - rather than a scale.

Do-fa-la (or fa-do-mi depending on what key you are in)
I was expecting to see a music analysis before long, and you have kindly obliged!
 

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Although Stadler have gone for an arpeggio - second inversion triad in B major, I think (F#, B, D#) - rather than a scale.
Measured from the video using a software spectrum analyser, the fundamental of the lowest tone is around 730 Hz, the middle tone around 1000 Hz and the high tone around 1300 Hz, so a pretty good match with your musical analysis :smile: (F# => 739.99 Hz, B => 987.77 Hz and D# => 1244.51 Hz). Those will be the 'chopping' frequencies of the traction inverters, used to synthesize the variable frequency 3-phase AC for the motors.
 
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I wonder if the new Stradler 93 and 99's are quieter in diesel than the very noisy 68's
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Measured from the video using a software spectrum analyser, the fundamental of the lowest tone is around 730 Hz, the middle tone around 1000 Hz and the high tone around 1300 Hz, so a pretty good match with your musical analysis :smile: (F# => 739.99 Hz, B => 987.77 Hz and D# => 1244.51 Hz). Those will be the 'chopping' frequencies of the traction inverters, used to synthesize the variable frequency 3-phase AC for the motors.
 

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Reminiscent of the "do-re-mi-lok" (Siemens Eurosprinter) on OBB


Although Stadler have gone for an arpeggio - second inversion triad in B major, I think (F#, B, D#) - rather than a scale.

Do-fa-la (or fa-do-mi depending on what key you are in)
Was expecting the Columbia Pictures logo to appear after that.
 

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Let's hope not! :D
I think the 68s will be the benchmark for cranks vs public arguments :E.

In that video 99001 gets a bit piercing noise wise BUT that might just be the gain on the microphone.
 
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In the pacing shot 2/3 of the way through, there is obviously a yellow test cable out of the cab window and down the side. Any ideas what for, it seems to go down to the sandpipe?
 

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In the pacing shot 2/3 of the way through, there is obviously a yellow test cable out of the cab window and down the side. Any ideas what for, it seems to go down to the sandpipe?
I think those kind of questions can only be answered by manufacturer and testers. They are usually wired up with loads of testing kit for the duration of the tests.
 

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In the pacing shot 2/3 of the way through, there is obviously a yellow test cable out of the cab window and down the side. Any ideas what for, it seems to go down to the sandpipe?
Just guesswork, but it might be a camera to record the behaviour of the wheel-rail interface and the sanding equipment, or possibly a pipe used to squirt something slippery onto the railhead for low-adhesion testing.

A close-up of the end of it, captured from the video:

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Just guesswork, but it might be a camera to record the behaviour of the wheel-rail interface and the sanding equipment, or possibly a pipe used to squirt something slippery onto the railhead for low-adhesion testing.

A close-up of the end of it, captured from the video:

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Thanks.
The image quality from video is amazing - I suppose that is what 4k gets you with the right kit. It does look rather like yellow garden hose, so putting something down to make the rail slippery seems quite plausible.
 

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I'm surprised that the locomotive's journey from Valencia in Spain to Velim in the Czech Republic has a leg that's by ship. I would have expected it to do the whole journey by road or the whole journey by rail. But fair enough.
 

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I'm surprised that the locomotive's journey from Valencia in Spain to Velim in the Czech Republic has a leg that's by ship. I would have expected it to do the whole journey by road or the whole journey by rail. But fair enough.
I wonder if a section of track in Spain is the same track gauge?
 

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Just guesswork, but it might be a camera to record the behaviour of the wheel-rail interface and the sanding equipment, or possibly a pipe used to squirt something slippery onto the railhead for low-adhesion testing.

A close-up of the end of it, captured from the video:

View attachment 176123

That will very likely be a hose for applying liquid friction modifier to test the sanders and WSSP response
 

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I'm surprised that the locomotive's journey from Valencia in Spain to Velim in the Czech Republic has a leg that's by ship. I would have expected it to do the whole journey by road or the whole journey by rail. But fair enough.
Wasn't 99002 at the Berlin show? Did it return to Valencia or did it stay in Berlin. Given that Velim is in the Czech Republic which is landlocked anyway why would you put the locomotive on a ship. Berlin to Prague is only about 400 kms.
 
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Wasn't 99002 at the Berlin show? Did it return to Valencia or did it stay in Berlin. Given that Velim is in the Czech Republic which is landlocked anyway why would you put the locomotive on a ship. Berlin to Prague is only about 400 kms.
Canal?
 

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There are different track gauges between the factory and the French border where all track would be standard gauge
According to Wikipedia, there is a standard gauge high speed link between Valencia and Madrid, and another between madrid and the French border, so it could be done that way. But there may be reasons why the high speed link can't be used for tghis purpiose. Valencia is on the Mediterranean coast, so shipping to soemwhere nearer Velim is certainly possible.
 

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Apparently it could have been barged along the River Elbe low water levels permitting to Cerhenice which is where the test track is. Other trains for the test centre move by the same route, the Saudi's had some moved by the same route.
 

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I'm surprised that the locomotive's journey from Valencia in Spain to Velim in the Czech Republic has a leg that's by ship. I would have expected it to do the whole journey by road or the whole journey by rail. But fair enough.

Wasn't 99002 at the Berlin show? Did it return to Valencia or did it stay in Berlin. Given that Velim is in the Czech Republic which is landlocked anyway why would you put the locomotive on a ship. Berlin to Prague is only about 400 kms.
99002 wasn't complete when it was in Berlin, hence it had to go back to Spain to be finished.

The test track in Velim is located about 1/2mile (closest point) to the River Elbe so a suitably sized vessel can enter the Elbe estuary near Hamburg and get very close. At a guess it will probably be unloaded in Kolin about 4 miles away or Melnik about 20 miles away where there are active rail connected Dockyards (for both containers (e.g. to/from Hamburg) and bulk).
 

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I think us Brits tend not to properly grasp just how much still moves around continental Europe by river.
 

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I think us Brits tend not to properly grasp just how much still moves around continental Europe by river.
Exactly - we are talking about the equivalent of sailing a small containership 400miles upriver from Felixstowe / Southampton / London Gateway! Normal on the continent, alien concept here (the equivalent is using a coaster to Grangemouth via the North Sea).

The Elbe and transportation on it is part of the reason Czechia is much more industrialised than Slovakia (and one of our former prime minsters ended up waving a bit of paper at Croydon Airport 87 years ago)
 
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