Glasgow Subway new stock

[Buzby]

The last time I was there the tracks did not go under Edmiston Drive. With no space within the Broomloan complex, they made good use of the old track of the Govan Branch of Glasgow & Paisley Joint Railway. Don’t know if the new buildings will be ‘temporary’. Especially it’ll cost even more to move it!

 

[DanNCL]

306 is currently in service. Appears to have entered service about an hour ago.

Edit: 303 is also out.

 

[route101]

Is the best time to see them, still the afternoon on weekdays?

 

[Buzby]

I’ve not heard of them showing up at any other time - currently only the M-F back shift drivers get to have a go on them!

 

[DanNCL]

I tried just after 1400 and couldn’t find one. Tried again at 1500 and came across them within a few minutes. As with previous days they were on consecutive workings, 303 first followed by 306.
Not terribly helpful that they were both taken out of service at Ibrox at the same time too so there was about a 15 minute gap in service between Ibrox and Govan on the outer when that happened around 1630.

Post #287 suggests they’ve also been running late morning. I wasn’t on the Subway this morning so don’t know if that was the case today or not.

It seems like the condensation issue has been resolved too, neither of todays units had any visible condensation.

Internally 306 had some SPT posters on the advertising card slots, whilst on 303 the slots were empty.

 

[neil henderson]

Post #287 suggests they’ve also been running late morning. I wasn’t on the Subway this morning so don’t know if that was the case today or not.

I was on 303 at 11am today

 

[Buzby]

There will always be two running together on the Outer - primarily because the couplers are different between G2 and G3 stock. If there’s an unexpected failure on the G3, the leading (or following) car set can couple up and push/pull it back to the depot. It’ll be too risky to mix them in service.

 

[Kite159]

I presume the next step will be for the new stock to work more services (i.e. staying out all day) on the outer line, with the older stock on the inner line?

 

[hexagon789]

I’ve not heard of them showing up at any other time - currently only the M-F back shift drivers get to have a go on them!

Is the best time to see them, still the afternoon on weekdays?

I've had them in the morning before 1100 and I'm sure another poster had one around 0945.

 

[DanNCL]

302 and 303 are both in service currently. 303 first, 302 running 4 minutes behind.

There will always be two running together on the Outer - primarily because the couplers are different between G2 and G3 stock. If there’s an unexpected failure on the G3, the leading (or following) car set can couple up and push/pull it back to the depot. It’ll be too risky to mix them in service.

I did wonder if that was why.

Do they have any emergency coupler adaptors?

 

[Buzby]

No

Do they have any emergency coupler adaptors?

No way of actually speaking to those who would know.

Since they plan to retire G2 progressively this year, it may be a needless expense - but as you cannot see into the dark-tinted cab area, it’s impossible to discern if this is available for emergency use.

The fact they run in tandem would suggest they don’t!

 

[GLC]

I’m getting adverts for the 2024 stock on Instagram now!

 

[jagardner1984]

I’m getting adverts for the 2024 stock on Instagram now!

Interestingly much of the response to such posts are along the lines of "are we being gaslit" - since i think many would believe "Your new fleet is here" would imply there is some prospect of regular commuters experiencing them, rather than forum whispers of an hour on a Tuesday afternoon.

To be honest, many fellow travellers roll their eyes at each new breakdown, the regular 8 minutes gaps in the peak 4 minute service, the stations, which the latest SPT minutes were declared to be broadly completed, still covered in temporary netting. I suspect it will come as something of a (nice) surprise when the new stock is forming the full service on a circle, or even more prolonged running. Many do not believe them to be real !

It is extraordinary this 14 year old project has not received more scrutiny - it is ripe for an Al Dalton expose ....

 

[EMU303]

Not really any new content beyond what’s been said on this thread, but there is a 3 min video

Inside the Subway depot housing new fleet of trains amid £288m project

STV News was granted exclusive access to the SPT Broomloan depot in Govan.

news.stv.tv

 

[H&I]

Long overdue, but I recently put out my full journey video of the inaugural journey.

 

[DanNCL]

At some point in the last week 301 has entered service, and use of the new stock on the Inner Circle has began.

Units to have worked in service are now 301/302/303/306.

 

[LT02 NVV]

At some point in the last week 301 has entered service, and use of the new stock on the Inner Circle has began.

Units to have worked in service are now 301/302/303/306.

How many are left to enter service now?

 

[Buzby]

Still to come are: 304/305/307/308/309/310/311/312/313/314/315/316 & 317

 

[trei2k]

Currently on 306 on the inner circle.

 

[jagardner1984]

Saw a unit out and about today for the first time. As anyone who has seen any of the G2 stock lately will attest - I think it is fair to say in 125 year old tunnels with considerable filth and water ingress, the choice of white as the primary colour on the G3 units is what Sir Humphrey might have called a “courageous decision.”

 

[VioletEclipse]

Saw a unit out and about today for the first time. As anyone who has seen any of the G2 stock lately will attest - I think it is fair to say in 125 year old tunnels with considerable filth and water ingress, the choice of white as the primary colour on the G3 units is what Sir Humphrey might have called a “courageous decision.”

that's something I was thinking as well! Orange as the main body colour of the G2 stock may be considered a bit old-fashioned with white being more in style currently, however the orange doesn't show the grime as badly as I expect the white will, that's unless they start thoroughly cleaning each unit each night!

 

[DanNCL]

Saw a unit out and about today for the first time. As anyone who has seen any of the G2 stock lately will attest - I think it is fair to say in 125 year old tunnels with considerable filth and water ingress, the choice of white as the primary colour on the G3 units is what Sir Humphrey might have called a “courageous decision.”

that's something I was thinking as well! Orange as the main body colour of the G2 stock may be considered a bit old-fashioned with white being more in style currently, however the orange doesn't show the grime as badly as I expect the white will, that's unless they start thoroughly cleaning each unit each night!

Indeed, can’t help wondering if they’ll eventually end up inverting the colour scheme on the new stock, changing it to Orange with White doors from the current White with Orange doors.

 

[MF gorm]

Saw a unit out and about today for the first time. As anyone who has seen any of the G2 stock lately will attest - I think it is fair to say in 125 year old tunnels with considerable filth and water ingress, the choice of white as the primary colour on the G3 units is what Sir Humphrey might have called a “courageous decision.”

The G2 stock didn't last long in the original livery before they acquired a dark roof. Brown shortly changed to black.

 

[Skymonster]

Three new units - 301(inner), 302(outer) and 303(outer) - running in public service this afternoon (none this morning). Having sampled them all - alongside the older stock of course - to me the new units seem vastly superior in terms of ambiance, climate, internal noise and ride.

 

[InOban]

I thought they always ran two on each circle in case one needed to rescue the other - the old stock can't rescue the new. I'm surprised that they aren't running more by now.

 

[Buzby]

Three new units - 301(inner), 302(outer) and 303(outer)

Are you sure you didn’t miss 306 on the inner? They hunt in packs of two….

 

[Skymonster]

Are you sure you didn’t miss 306 on the inner? They hunt in packs of two….

Fairly, but it may have retired early. Interestingly (and contrary to what I expected) 302 and 303 weren’t running following each other, as there was at least one old stock unit between the two.

I thought they always ran two on each circle in case one needed to rescue the other - the old stock can't rescue the new. I'm surprised that they aren't running more by now.

Definitely not running in pairs - 302 and 303 were separated by at least one older unit.

 

[InOban]

They must be confident of the reliability of the new units, which is good to see

 

[trei2k]

They don't seem to be in a rush to introduce these new units. Many of my trips recently have just been the older stock.

 

[hexagon789]

They don't seem to be in a rush to introduce these new units. Many of my trips recently have just been the older stock.

Strange, as there's usually 2-4 units out per day now in my experience.

Certainly, staff said an increase in new units was coming this Wednesday - with the Stadlers running out from start of service now, instead of more limited times.