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I was wondering, how morebus may redo their routes/network, whether just renumbering some routes or completely redrawing the map.
it seems a very good opportunity for the bus network across the three towns to be re-envisaged and to eliminate the not inconsiderable duplication that resulted from the previous competitive scenario.

There has been discussion of how this might happen on another thread on this forum

Ideas for a Morebus recast in Bournemouth & Poole​

 
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One thing that's not speculation is the withdrawal of the 11 (Poole - Kinson) from the end of September. The X6 will have a small re-route in Bearwood to make up for it
 

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One thing that's not speculation is the withdrawal of the 11 (Poole - Kinson) from the end of September. The X6 will have a small re-route in Bearwood to make up for it
Depending on the exact route in Bearwood the X6 will take (Shapland Ave or Knights Road), it will be a longer journey for passengers who have travelled further afield from Ferndown, Verwood and Ringwood. I wonder how many of these residents will switch to private transport as a result of this change?
 

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I do hope that the reroute does not take too long for existing passengers - but equally leaves as few people as possible without a service. The X6 is already quite infrequent and leaves places such as Ferndown with absolutely zero service to Poole on Sundays. I do hope that the X6 frequency is increased to at least a regular hourly service to accommodate for the passengers on route 11.

Also: https://www.morebus.co.uk/minor-changes-30th-august states that there are minor changes to routes 2 and 6 with one extended route 2 service and more route 6 services
 

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I do hope that the reroute does not take too long for existing passengers - but equally leaves as few people as possible without a service. The X6 is already quite infrequent and leaves places such as Ferndown with absolutely zero service to Poole on Sundays. I do hope that the X6 frequency is increased to at least a regular hourly service to accommodate for the passengers on route 11.
The withdrawal of the 11 would leave Bearwood and High Howe with no service to Poole on Sundays. This would make it worthwhile to extend the Sunday X6 from Ferndown to Poole to cover this gap.

It’s also worth noting that the Sunday route 11 currently extends from Bearwood to Kinson, so a replacement would need to be found for this section of route too.
 

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We have now reached the 4th incident in just under a week (I think) of vandalism to morebus vehicles in the same area, namely by objects being thrown at buses.
"No service in West Howe due to objects thrown at buses yet again"

I really hope this does get resolved, and would morebus not serving this area at all in the evening in future be reasonable?
 

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It’s also worth noting that the Sunday route 11 currently extends from Bearwood to Kinson, so a replacement would need to be found for this section of route too.
Will the 6 on Sundays be replaced by 6a as a result to replace this section?
 

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Swindon bus company Optare Versas 60 plates withdrawn from service.
Next destiny unknown. Sold? Passed on through the go south coast group?
 

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Morebus have published their list of timetable changes for the winter.

https://www.morebus.co.uk/winter-timetable-changes

From Monday 19th September, there are some changes are taking place to our services as we go into our winter timetable season to accommodate for the changes in demand that winter brings! There are still plenty of places to visit, and the darker nights provide a great opportunity to enjoy some of Dorset's light-up attractions by bus.

Many of the changes are minor with a few routes including the m1, m2, 10, 14, 16, 17, 20, 38 and X3 all having tweaks to peak times to better serve our customers in the colder winter months and improve the reliability of the service. We've also re-looked at the X6 timetable to aid reliability on this route and extend this further across our network to include Bearwood Estate with the removal of route 11 from Poole to Bearwood to go alongside this.

As always, our Purbeck Breezer services reduce slightly for the quieter winter period, but fear not, they will still be running a good service ensuring you're well connected to the Isle of Purbeck and Swanage. Routes 30, 31, 35 and Durlston5 will be removed for the winter period. Route 12 will also be removed with route 70 operating into the Winter between Alum Chine and East Cliff.

Our UNIBUS services will continue to operate on the same timetable as in the 2021/22 academic year and these can be found directly on the UNIBUS website.
 
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Is they any news on when More bus and old yellow bus network will be fully merged?
 

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Is they any news on when More bus and old yellow bus network will be fully merged?

The main issue is the duplication of some route numbers between Bournemouth & Pool services
Sorry hit enter button too soon.
As said - duplication of route numbers, could easily be solved by a simple renumbering.
Currently some confusion on "Bustimes" between ex Yellow buses routes (1-6 + variations & 737) shown as 'Bournemouth' and everything else as 'Poole' - I believe the pre-existing Bournemouth based More buses on the 'U' routes and the 13 are currently flagged as Poole, even though operated from Bournemouth.
Perhaps someone with more local Knowledge could clarify?
 

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Is they any news on when More bus and old yellow bus network will be fully merged?
As a local with expert knowledge of the area, one observation I have made while at Poole Bus Station is that the network map next to the travel office is showing both the More and ex-YB networks together, whereas such a map cannot be found on their website. I wouldn’t expect a company to go through the cost of printing this only to have to change it weeks later, so perhaps we could be stuck with the ex-YB numbers until the next big network change whenever that is.

EDIT: The map showing both networks can be found on the Morebus website under the Route & Fare Zone Map.
 
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More have released their new timetable booklet which has the existing more network plus their YB routes (or Bournemouth Area routes as they know them) therefore it is unlikely any major network recasts will happen until the next booklet comes out, which is most likely going to be next May.

Also - I believe the map with both the more and ex-YB routes is on their website under "Route & Fare Zone Map" on https://www.morebus.co.uk/services ;)
 

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More have released their new timetable booklet which has the existing more network plus their YB routes (or Bournemouth Area routes as they know them) therefore it is unlikely any major network recasts will happen until the next booklet comes out, which is most likely going to be next May.

Also - I believe the map with both the more and ex-YB routes is on their website under "Route & Fare Zone Map" on https://www.morebus.co.uk/services ;)
Bit odd to include them on their Route & Fare Zone Map (the one displayed at Poole Bus Station) but not the Morebus Network Map (the one showing routes and bus stops in more detail).
 

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Bit odd to include them on their Route & Fare Zone Map (the one displayed at Poole Bus Station) but not the Morebus Network Map (the one showing routes and bus stops in more detail).
I agree - more even had an opportunity to put the ex-YB routes on the network map as they had to redo the network map to remove route 11 and move the X6 anyway, but even after redoing the map they kept the ex-YB routes off
 

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I agree - more even had an opportunity to put the ex-YB routes on the network map as they had to redo the network map to remove route 11 and move the X6 anyway, but even after redoing the map they kept the ex-YB routes off
Even more so since More could keep the ex-YB routes the same during the next network revision but simply change their numbers to fit in with the wider More network and remove any duplication.
 

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I understand that a consolidated network may be introduced in May. The company are still understanding where the major passenger flows are, hence no changes yet.
 

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I notice that 1828 & 1929 (New Forest Tour green) have not appeared on bustimes.org for a while. Any news?
 

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I notice that 1828 & 1929 (New Forest Tour green) have not appeared on bustimes.org for a while. Any news?
They are Bluestar vehicles, usually found on Barton Peveril College or Brockenhurst College services.
 

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Does anyone know how the Tap On Tap Off works in regard to the ex-Yellow Buses routes now operated by morebus? Yellow Buses introduced Tap On Tap Off on their buses a month before the final collapse with capping across both operators, however if travel was made only on morebus services a lower cap applies.

I'm travelling to Bournemouth on the coming Saturday and need to know if this arrangement continues after morebus taking over the Yellow Buses routes, if sticking with morebus's own routes, or the ex-Yellow Buses routes, is still cheaper than mixing travel on the ex-Yellow Buses 1a and morebus X1.
 

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Does anyone know how the Tap On Tap Off works in regard to the ex-Yellow Buses routes now operated by morebus? Yellow Buses introduced Tap On Tap Off on their buses a month before the final collapse with capping across both operators, however if travel was made only on morebus services a lower cap applies.

I'm travelling to Bournemouth on the coming Saturday and need to know if this arrangement continues after morebus taking over the Yellow Buses routes, if sticking with morebus's own routes, or the ex-Yellow Buses routes, is still cheaper than mixing travel on the ex-Yellow Buses 1a and morebus X1.
Apart from the M1/M2 specific tickets, the ex Yellow Routes which Morebus have taken on are fully integrated in to the Morebus fare system.
 

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Earlier this year the journey history portal couldn't handle Google Pay, and the response of customer service was to use a physical card instead. As I heard that TfL can now show journey history made using Google Pay, I suspect that the technical barrier has been solved so I tried again today, and now it can show my journeys with the cap correctly applied.

The journeys above were on 1a (Bournemouth Square to the end of route), X1 (Mudeford to the end of route), and 6a (Bournemouth Square - Bournemouth Station). Note that the zone A cap is applied at the mobile ticket price £4.30 where the paper ticket price is £4.50.

Attached is a screenshot of my transaction history.
 

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The unified Bournemouth & Poole bus network lives on - Morebus will be taking over Xelabus routes 18, 33 and 36 from the 15th of February:


Following a recent tender process from BCP Council we are pleased to inform you that from the 15th of February, we will be operating the 18, 33 and 36 services, Monday to Saturday (currently operated by Xela Group until 14 February). Timetables are now available to view from the links below.

Route 18 will run up to every hour, between Bournemouth to Broadstone via Westbourne, Upper Parkstone, Dale Valley Road, Canford Heath, Waterloo Estate & Hillbourne.

Route 33 will run up to every hour, from Bournemouth to Christchurch via East Cliff, Boscombe, Littledown Estate, Royal Bournemouth Hospital, Southbourne, Broadway & Kings Avenue.

Route 36 will run up to every hour, from Talbot View Estate to Kinson via Bourne Valley, Bournemouth, Glenferness Avenue, Fern Barrow, Wallisdown, Turbary Park Avenue & Anchor Road.

Click here to view our updated network map, which shows where these new routes will go.

These routes all fall within our Zone A fare zone, therefore current morebus period passes and dayriders will be valid. All single bus fares are currently £2 until 31 March thanks to the Government Help for Households scheme. The best way to pay for your fare on bus is using tap on tap off, or if you travel regualrly and prefer a period pass, please download the morebus app.
 
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Now the 33 returns to morebus, is it time to drop the eastern section of the 70?
During the winter perhaps, but in the summer months the 70 should definitely be extended along the coast road to Hengistbury Head.
 

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An order has been placed for 28 new buses for Morebus

New buses on order​

Today Wed 8th Feb 2023

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We're investing £7.7 million in new fleet of double decker buses for Bournemouth and Poole
We have 28 brand new double decker buses on order to serve the area this summer - thanks to a £7.7 million investment by ourselves.
This follows our recent route expansion in 2022, with the introduction of 10 new services serving Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch.
The new buses will be British built and will be E400 MMC's with Euro 6 low emissions engine - the cleanest standard for diesel. As well as having start stop technology so don't worry if the bus goes quiet at a junction or bus stop.
They are built to be far kinder to the environment, these new buses are very similar to our new fleet of Unibus vehicles - but with new seat, cloth and floor design.
Our new fleet of ADL Enviro 400 double decker buses will initially serve our m1 route between Poole, Bournemouth and Royal Bournemouth Hospital. The m1 is currently operated with single decker buses, so our customers will enjoy an increase in seating capacity along this route. As well as additional views from the top deck.
The new buses will also run on our 5/5A Bournemouth to Kinson service.
The aim is to make sustainable transport a more attractive proposition, in order to entice people out of their cars. One full double decker bus can take up to 75 cars off the road - and this latest investment is a huge step in that direction.
Source: https://www.morebus.co.uk/new-buses-order
 

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I see the article also says they (E400s) will be allocated to the m1 converting it to double deck operation and to the 5/5A.
A quick glance at 'Bustimes" at 1836 just now, shows the M1 has 21 buses on it and the 5/5A has 7 buses.
Will they be standard 10.9m low height MMC models? just idle speculation, why not 11m full height models?
I believe that the M1 is mostly operated from Bournemouth depot - Bustimes shows Poole but I think Bournemouth is the flag for the ex Yellowbus routes and Bournemouth also operate the 13 & M1, - happy to be corrected if I have got this wrong?
So what will happen to the displaced E200MMC? - displace the B7RLE - maybe to Swindon to get rid of the remaining Scanias and Streetlites?
 

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