Great Western Livery

[ANP1990]

Has gWr change the fabric of the seats in the internally updated green hst set?

I seem to recall that the green and grey colour scheme had a light grey cover, with a no / little pattern. This set seems to have a dark grey criss cross pattern (attached a pic that sneakily took trying to not look weird!)

Doesn't seem to show the dirt up as much (but I may also be mis-rembering my last journey on the refurbished set).

 

[Sprinter153]

Yes, that's the new 'updated' moquette (though one could use it as a scrubbing brush, the finish is akin to Southern's trademark Astroturf)

 

[PHILIPE]

There is a dogbox movement in each direction between PM and Long Marston on Wednesday this week.

 

[PHILIPE]

There is a dogbox movement in each direction between PM and Long Marston on Wednesday this week. Should be 368 coming back so presume will now be in GWR Livery following 318.

 

[fgwrich]

Yes, that's the new 'updated' moquette (though one could use it as a scrubbing brush, the finish is akin to Southern's trademark Astroturf)

Has gWr change the fabric of the seats in the internally updated green hst set?

I seem to recall that the green and grey colour scheme had a light grey cover, with a no / little pattern. This set seems to have a dark grey criss cross pattern (attached a pic that sneakily took trying to not look weird!)

Doesn't seem to show the dirt up as much (but I may also be mis-rembering my last journey on the refurbished set).

Great, so equally as cheap and uncomfortable as Southern's awful Astro-Turf then. They seem to be going from one extreme to the other with these!

Also disappointing to see that the seat back as just been chucked back onto the base again then - the FGW sets don't look this scruffy, but the "GWR" ones do seem to.

 

[CC 72100]

Has gWr change the fabric of the seats in the internally updated green hst set?

I seem to recall that the green and grey colour scheme had a light grey cover, with a no / little pattern. This set seems to have a dark grey criss cross pattern (attached a pic that sneakily took trying to not look weird!)

Doesn't seem to show the dirt up as much (but I may also be mis-rembering my last journey on the refurbished set).

It's the same moquette as the refurbished 150/2s... it will hide any dirt much more than the light grey cloth!

 

[43096]

It's the same moquette as the refurbished 150/2s... it will hide any dirt much more than the light grey cloth!

It's not moquette, but cheap and nasty flat cloth.

 

[FGW_DID]

Minor update from Derby, a cab-less 165124 in RVEL.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/andrew_cowell/29080196893/in/album-72157672768264142/

165124 update.

165124 has had its repairs completed and is awaiting some testing to be done. On completion it will be reunited with t'other half at St Phillips Marsh before returning to Reading TCD.

 

[RPI]

It's not moquette, but cheap and nasty flat cloth.

What's on the 150/2's is most definitely moquette and is quite hard wearing

 

[59CosG95]

Holy Week/Passover/11th April livery update for you all.

LOCOS
Class 08 Shunters:
410-BR Green livery.
483 "NEIL"/"SCOUSEY"-BR Black livery.
641-Modified BR Blue livery, with grey roof & yellow cabside windows.
663 "St. Silas"-BR Blue livery.
795-BR Black livery.
822 "Dave Mills"-INTERCITY Swallow livery.
836-New GWR livery.

Class 43 powercars:
002 "Sir Kenneth Grange"-Original IC125 Blue/yellow livery. Also has black GWR logos on the windows of the sliding doors toward the rear of the car.
003 "ISAMBARD KINGDOM BRUNEL"-FGW livery.
004-FGW livery.
005-New GWR livery.
009-FGW livery.
010-FGW livery.
012 "Exeter Panel Signal Box 21st Anniversary 2009"-FGW livery.
015-FGW livery.
016-FGW livery.
017 "Hannahs discoverhannahs.org"-FGW livery.
018-FGW livery.
020 "MTU Power. Passion. Partnership."-FGW livery.
021 "David Austin-Cartoonist"-FGW livery.
022 "The Duke of Edinburgh's Award Diamond Anniversary 1956-2016"-FGW Livery
023 "SQN LDR Harold Starr One of the Few"-FGW livery.
024 "Great Western Society 1961-2011 Didcot Railway Centre"-FGW livery.
025 "The Institute of Railway Operators 2000-2010 TEN YEARS OF PROMOTING OPERATIONAL EXCELLENCE"-FGW livery.
026 "Michael Eavis"-FGW livery.
027-"90 Glorious Years" livery to commemmorate HM The Queen's 90th Birthday. "Glorious Devon" nameplates appear to have been removed.
028-FGW livery.
029-FGW livery.
030 "Christian Lewis Trust"-FGW livery.
031-FGW livery.
032-FGW livery.
033 "Driver Brian Cooper 15th June 1947-5th October 1999"-FGW livery.
034 "TravelWatch South West"-FGW livery.
035-FGW livery.
036-FGW livery.
037 "PENYDARREN"-FGW livery.
040 "Bristol St. Philip's Marsh"-FGW livery.
041 "Meningitis Trust Support For Life"-New GWR livery.
042-FGW livery.
053 "University of Worcester"-FGW livery.
056 "The Royal British Legion"-FGW livery.
063-FGW livery.
069-FGW livery.
070 "The Corps of Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers"-FGW livery.
071-FGW livery.
078-FGW livery.
079-FGW livery.
086-FGW livery.
087 "11 Explosive Ordnance Disposal Regiment Royal Logistics Corps"-FGW livery.
088-FGW livery.
091-FGW livery.
092-FGW livery.
093-Due to go into new GWR livery, En route to Doncaster Works for repaint and "HST GTi" power door mods. (Thanks 43096!)
094-FGW livery.
097 "Environment Agency"-FGW livery.
098-FGW livery.
122-FGW livery.
124-FGW livery.
125-FGW livery.
126-Advertising livery: BRISTOL 2015 European Green Capital.
127 "Sir Peter Parker 1924-2002 Cotswold Line 150"-FGW livery.
128-FGW livery.
129-FGW livery.
130-FGW livery.
131-FGW livery.
132 "We Save the Children-will you?"-FGW livery.
133-FGW livery.
134-FGW livery.
135-FGW livery.
136-FGW livery.
137 "Newton Abbott 150"-FGW livery.
138-FGW livery.
139 "Driver Stan Martin 25 June 1950-6 November 2004"-FGW livery.
140 "Depo Diesel Glandŵr 1963 Dathlu 50 Mlynedd 2013/Landore Diesel Depot 1963 Celebrating 50 Years 2013"-FGW livery.
141 "Cardiff Panel Signal Box 1966-2016/Blwch Signalau Panel Caerdydd 1966-2016"-FGW livery.
142 "Reading Panel Signal Box 1965-2010"-FGW livery.
143 "Stroud 700"-FGW livery.
144-Advertising livery: BUILDING A GREATER WEST (countryside images)
145-FGW livery.
146-Advertising livery: BUILDING A GREATER WEST (coastal images)
147 "Royal Marines Celebrating 350 Years"-FGW livery.
148-FGW livery.
149 "University of Plymouth"-FGW livery.
150-FGW livery.
151-FGW livery.
152-FGW livery.
153-FGW livery.
154-FGW livery.
155 "The Red Arrows 50 Seasons of Excellence"-FGW livery.
156 "Dartington International Summer School"-FGW livery.
158-FGW livery.
159-FGW livery.
160 "Sir Moir Lockhead OBE"-FGW livery.
161-FGW livery.
162-FGW livery.
163-Advertising livery: Visit Plymouth
164-FGW livery.
165 "Prince Michael of Kent"-FGW livery.
168-FGW livery.
169 "THE NATIONAL TRUST"-FGW livery.
170-FGW livery.
171-FGW livery.
172 "Harry Patch The Last survivor of the trenches"-Black & Orange commemorative livery. FGW logo still present.
174-FGW livery.
175 "GWR-175th Anniversary"-FGW livery.
176-FGW livery.
177-FGW livery.
179 "Pride of Laira"-FGW livery.
180-FGW livery.
181-FGW livery.
182-FGW livery.
183-FGW livery.
185 "Great Western"-INTERCITY Swallow livery, complete with cast swallow. Also has white GWR logos on the windows of the sliding doors toward the rear of the car.
186-FGW livery.
187-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.
188-New GWR livery. Carrying "Y Cymro-The Welshman" branding.
189 "RAILWAY HERITAGE TRUST"-FGW livery.
190-FGW livery.
191-FGW livery.
192-FGW livery.
193-FGW livery.
194-New GWR livery. Unlike the first 4 green PCs, numbers are beneath the cab and the GWR logo is not cast. Modded for power doors (I think).
195-FGW livery.
196-FGW livery.
197-FGW livery.
198 "Oxfordshire 2007"-New GWR livery. Unlike the first 4 green PCs, numbers are beneath the cab and the GWR logo is not cast. Modded for power doors (I think).

Class 57 sleeper/crank-ex locos:
57602 "Restormel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57603 "Tintagel Castle"-GWR (new) livery.
57604 "PENDENNIS CASTLE"-GWR (traditional) livery.
57605 "Totnes Castle"-GWR (new) livery.

(Many thanks to @co-tr-paul for Night Riviera-related updates; check his thread out here)

COACHES
HST trailer sets:
LA01-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA02-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA03-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA04-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA05-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA06-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA07-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA08-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA09-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA10-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA11-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA12-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA13-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA14-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA15-New GWR livery.
LA16-New GWR livery.
OC30-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC31-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC32-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC33-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC34-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC35-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC36-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC37-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC38-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC40-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC41-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC42-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC43-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC44-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC45-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC46-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC47-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC48-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC49-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC50-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC51-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC52-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC53-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC54-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC55-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC56-Dynamic Lines livery.
OC57-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA60-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA61-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA62-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA63-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA64-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA71-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA72-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA73-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA74-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA75-Dynamic Lines livery.
LA spares: 40 (119, 231, 718, 811), 41 (004, 103, 116, 137, 176), 42 (049, 083, 095, 101, 102, 196, 294, 356, 381), 44 (002, 059, 083)
OO spare: 44024
PM spare: 44100

Sleeper coaches:
All GW 105xx and 106xx SLEP coaches in GWR silver & green.
All BFO coaches (17173-5) in GWR silver & green.
TSOs:
All TSOs in GWR silver & green, with the exception of:
10217 (ex-Virgin, undergoing refurb at Wolverton as a replacement for 10232),
&
10232 (not getting refurbished as severe corrosion means going off-lease, and probably scrap).

DMUs
Class 150/1s are not included here, as they are expected to leave the franchise.
Class 143:
603-FGW Local Lines livery.
611-FGW Local Lines livery.
612-FGW Local Lines livery.
617-FGW Local Lines livery.
618-FGW Local Lines livery.
619-FGW Local Lines livery.
620-FGW Local Lines livery.
621-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 150/0:
Both 150001 and 150002 are in GWR Green.

Class 150/2:
202-New GWR livery.
216-FGW livery.
219-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front. Currently OOS after a bit of a knock with 43160 at PLY. Good coach currently in 150238, making it 150938. Bad coach now back at SPM, but some further work required to get it back into service.
221-FGW Local Lines livery.
232-New GWR livery.
233-New GWR livery.
234-New GWR livery.
238-FGW livery. New Dot-Matrix display on front. Currently has the good coach from 150219 in it, making it 150938.
239-FGW Local Lines livery.
243-FGW Local Lines livery.
244-FGW Local Lines livery.
246-New GWR livery.
247-New GWR livery. Also has finalised interior.
248-New GWR livery.
249-FGW Local Lines livery.
261 "The Tarka Line - The First 25 Years 1989-2014"-FGW livery.
263-New GWR livery.
265-FGW Local Lines livery.
266-New GWR livery.

Class 153
All 153s are in FGW Local branding unless displayed here.
305-Two-tone Grey livery.
318-New GWR livery.
325-"Citizensrail.org" advertising livery.
333-"Visit South Devon" advertising livery.
368-New GWR livery.

Class 158
763-FGW Local Lines livery.
766-FGW Local Lines livery.
798-Advertising livery: Springboard Opportunity Group
950-New GWR livery.
951-FGW Local Lines livery.
952-FGW Local Lines livery.
953-FGW Local Lines livery.
954-FGW Local Lines livery.
955-FGW Local Lines livery.
956-New GWR livery.
957-New GWR livery.
958-FGW Local Lines livery.
959-FGW Local Lines livery.
960-FGW Local Lines livery.
961-FGW Local Lines livery.

Class 165
101-New GWR livery.
102-New GWR livery.
103-New GWR livery.
104-New GWR livery.
105-New GWR livery.
106-New GWR livery.
107-New GWR livery.
108-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
109-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
110-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
111-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
112-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
113-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
114-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
116-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
117-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
118-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
119-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
120-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
121-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
122-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
123-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
124-FGW Dynamic Lines livery. At RVEL Derby after its farce at Paddington; one car at SPM for staff training/familiarisation. The unit will be paired up at SPM.
125-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
126-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
127-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
128-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
129-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
130-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
131-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
132-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
133-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
134-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
135-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
136-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.
137-FGW Dynamic Lines livery.


Class 166
201-FGW livery.
202-FGW livery.
203-FGW livery.
204 "Norman Topsom MBE"-New GWR livery.
205-New GWR livery, with new interior. Carries external 1st Class silver stripes at both ends of the unit.
206-New GWR livery.
207-FGW livery.
208-New GWR livery.
209-FGW livery.
210-New GWR livery. No internal first class signage or any other indicators at all at either end of the unit (including no anti-macassars).
211-FGW livery. No anti-macassars at all in its first class section (but has window stickers).
212-New GWR livery.
213-New GWR livery.
214-New GWR livery.
215-FGW livery. Also has no internal 1st class ID save for two creased and peeling stickers on the transverse glass partitions that both look as if they have been stuck on by children. No window stickers and no anti-macassars. The fleet is easily the worst Deepgreen has ever encountered for its appalling labelling.
216-New GWR livery. Currently at SPM for staff training and familiarisation.
217-New GWR livery
218-New GWR livery.
219-New GWR livery.
220-New GWR livery.
221 "Reading Train Care Depot"-FGW livery.

Class 387
All class members are expected to be delivered in GWR Green from new.
387130-149 built so far, the Class 387 thread has more details.

Class 800: see the Class 800 thread for more details.
/0s: 5-car units.
001-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
002-Plain, non-TOC specific white (with red detailing at one cab end).
003-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
004 "Sir Daniel Gooch/Isambard Kingdom Brunel"- New GWR Livery.
005-Plain, non-TOC specific white with bird prints.
006-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
007-Unknown as to construction details.
008-Plain, non-TOC specific white. Now loose on the mainline.
009-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
010-Plain, non-TOC specific white.
011-On test at Newton Aycliffe.
012-Built, assumed as plain, non-TOC specific white.
013-Not yet built.
014-Not yet built.
015-Not yet built.
016-Not yet built.
017-Not yet built.
018-Not yet built.
019-Not yet built.
020-Not yet built.
021-Bodyshells delivered a month ago. No news on livery.
022-Not yet built.
023-Not yet built.
024-Bodyshells all delivered in plain, non-TOC specific white.
025-Not yet built.
026-Not yet built.
027-Not yet built.
028-Not yet built.
029-Not yet built.
030-Not yet built.
031-Not yet built.
032-Not yet built.
033-Not yet built.
034-Not yet built.
035-Not yet built.
036-Not yet built.

/3s: 9-car units, originally due to be Class 801/0s.
301-Not yet built.
302-Not yet built.
303-Not yet built.
304-Not yet built.
305-Not yet built.
306-Not yet built.
307-Not yet built.
308-Not yet built.
309-Not yet built.
310-Not yet built.
311-Not yet built.
312-Not yet built.
313-Not yet built.
314-Not yet built.
315-Not yet built.
316-Not yet built.
317-Not yet built.
318-Not yet built.
319-Not yet built.
320-Not yet built.
321-Not yet built.

Don't hesitate to add in any further changes; I'm sure there's a few I've missed!

 

[43096]

43093 has gone by road to Doncaster as the next one to get the mods and green paint.

 

[59CosG95]

43093 has gone by road to Doncaster as the next one to get the mods and green paint.

Ah, wasn't aware! Thanks very much 43096.

 

[395 Olympic Javelin]

43004 has no nameplate cause I saw it on Saturday

 

[co-tr-paul]

NT.Riv. TSOD 12100 at Wolverton now so will return in green.

 

[Rhydgaled]

Would be nice if the selected 24 PCs for HSTGTi could have a common theme , traditional policy..... .

For the GWR short sets I read somewhere that the 'common theme' is that it will be the FirstGroup-owned examples (and some Angel trains ones) staying (anyone know which are owned by whom?)

 

[43096]

For the GWR short sets I read somewhere that the 'common theme' is that it will be the FirstGroup-owned examples (and some Angel trains ones) staying (anyone know which are owned by whom?)

43092-094/097/098/122/153-155/158/194/198 are FRH owned.
43002-005/009/010/012/015-018/020-037/040-042/124-152/163-165/168-172/174-177/179/181-183/185-192 are Angel owned.

 

[59CosG95]

43004 has no nameplate cause I saw it on Saturday

Thanks very much @395 Olympic Javelin, I'll amend that!

NT.Riv. TSOD 12100 at Wolverton now so will return in green.

Ah fantastic, thanks very much @co-tr-paul, was wondering when the next one of those would get the brush!

 

[PHILIPE]

150246 back from Wolverton and 150244 taking it's place there

 

[Kite159]

387140 & 141 have entered service?

Also isn't there another temporary 150/9 floating around?

 

[PHILIPE]

387140 & 141 have entered service?

Also isn't there another temporary 150/9 floating around?

As far as I know, 150916 was the last one to be formed.

 

[Rhydgaled]

43092-094/097/098/122/153-155/158/194/198 are FRH owned.
43002-005/009/010/012/015-018/020-037/040-042/124-152/163-165/168-172/174-177/179/181-183/185-192 are Angel owned.

Thanks for the reply. A few 'celebrity' locos could be getting the power door mods then, depending on which Angel ones are done. I hope 43185, 43172 and 43002 don't get painted green before I've got decent photos of them in their current special liveries, or before the last slam-door set is withdrawn; and no de-naming of locos please GWR. If any of 43003, 43175 and 43185 are done in green I hope they swap the cast logos from the first four green ones onto these (as well as keeping the current nameplates). Really, it's a shame 43003 and 43175 weren't done as two of the original cast-logo green locos, and possibly 43185 as well (if another power car had got Swallow instead), with either 43024 or 43189 as the fourth.

 

[43096]

Thanks for the reply. A few 'celebrity' locos could be getting the power door mods then, depending on which Angel ones are done. I hope 43185, 43172 and 43002 don't get painted green before I've got decent photos of them in their current special liveries, or before the last slam-door set is withdrawn; and no de-naming of locos please GWR. If any of 43003, 43175 and 43185 are done in green I hope they swap the cast logos from the first four green ones onto these (as well as keeping the current nameplates). Really, it's a shame 43003 and 43175 weren't done as two of the original cast-logo green locos, and possibly 43185 as well (if another power car had got Swallow instead), with either 43024 or 43189 as the fourth.

Don't forget that 54 of those Angel owned power cars are to go to ScotRail - we just don't yet know which ones go north, which stay with GWR and which go off-lease.

 

[pdeaves]

Also don't forget that it's just as easy to swap nameplates around as relivery a specific power car!

 

[Peter Mugridge]

387140 & 141 have entered service?

Yes, I had 387 140 for haulage yesterday ( paired with 387 144 - another new haulage for me. )

 

[FGW_DID]

…387140 & 141 have entered service?……

387141 has been out on driver training runs but not been into passenger service yet, however 141 is due to go to West Ealing on the Thursday 387 swap so will be found in service very shortly thereafter.
(IIRC 138 & 139 are the units rotating back to the TCD)

 

[co-tr-paul]

"Common theme" should have been reference naming !
Op amend ed!

 

[Rhydgaled]

Don't forget that 54 of those Angel owned power cars are to go to ScotRail - we just don't yet know which ones go north, which stay with GWR and which go off-lease.

Good point. About 18 without a future use planned currently then?

Also don't forget that it's just as easy to swap nameplates around as relivery a specific power car!

Although it would be physically easy to swap nameplates around, I don't think it should be done. Naming a locomotive (except perhaps with a silly marketing name like 'First For The Future'), in my opinion, personifies that locomotive. People don't often change their names, or swap them; the name is their identity. Thus, I hope the power cars with GW-related names don't go to ScotRail (because they would probably lose the names if they did) and are kept on with GWR (and get the cast GWR logos) or sent somewhere (eg. preservation) they will keep their names.

 

[PHILIPE]

Have seen picture of 153368 on it's way back from Long Marston - GWR Green

 

[83G/84D]

Have seen picture of 153368 on it's way back from Long Marston - GWR Green

Any chance of a link please?

 

[PHILIPE]

Any chance of a link please?

I'd love to but I saw it on Facebook and, unfortunately, not sure if I know how to do the process. Also, have to respect the poster for using his photograph. I will look out, however, if I can any other source to post.