Guard playing rave music in guard’s cab.

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  1. syorksdeano

    syorksdeano Member

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    Meanwhile in coach A......
     

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  2. Bletchleyite

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    Of a Pendolino...of course they'd pick the quiet coach :D
     
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    If listening to Ebeneezer Goode then perhaps a med screen might be a good idea! E's are good!
     
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    Can I just ask the OP that they know for definite that it was the guard who was playing music over the train's PA system? As other have already stated it's highly unprofessional and any guard (or other member of staff) found to be doing it would have a lot to answer for.

    However, it has not been uncommon for youths (on SWT/SWR anyway) to break into guard's offices and door operation panels and hijack the PA for this purpose. In fact on the Portsmouth Direct we've seen it spike recently, which is probably related to the other antisocial behaviour near Godalming at the moment.
     
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    He’s probably in a bitter sweet place right now....
     
  6. Neil Polo

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    Music in general. I’m not a fan of rave music, but not particularly against it either. I just wondered if playing music was a regulation no no. It’s a pity it wasn’t Abba.

    It was coming from his cab, only when he went inside too.
    Amusingly, and I fully expect to be regarded with scepticism in this, the guard on my next train was singing in his rear cab. I’ve never heard music or singing from guards’ cabs before. After posting from one train I end up encountering it a second time in one night. I have to say the singing was better than the rave music
     
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  7. Neil Polo

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    It came through the bulkhead. Not the PA system. :).
     
  8. Horizon22

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    Regardless of whether its permissible, headphones are a thing... I'd expect a conductor/guard (passing or otherwise) to understand the irritation this may cause, especially as plenty of trains have stickers telling passengers to ensure music / speakers are kept to a minimum.
     
  9. yorkie

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    Anyone who is a regular on TfW services on the Cardiff - Crewe - Manchester corridor will be familiar with a Guard who sings on the PA for several minutes.
     
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    I usually listen to audiobooks or music when I'm passing on trains as there's generally nothing else to do and I'm treated as a passenger in a train working sense, what we aren't allowed to do is use any electronic device (smartphone, smartwatch, etc.) which may distract us during safety critical duties, so dispatch for example.
     
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    I hold my hands up, I talk to myself and sing regularly when I'm in the cab, checking tickets or operating the doors :oops::lol: I often stop with a bump and think "oh shoot, is someone the other side of the door listening in?"! I do it when I'm driving as well and to be fair, I've got a perfect record both at work and at the wheel so it's probably helpful!
     
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    The other issue is that the TOC is probably liable to have a PRS license if punters can hear the music.
     
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    I do "karaoke" while driving (a car) - I'd imagine many do! :D
     
  14. Intermodal

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol:NEXT!
     
  15. ainsworth74

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    That surely depends on the music? I don't think all music is subject to PRS after all!

    Ha yes very true! I've overheard plenty of AWS pings and other more interesting noises over the years. No music or singing as yet though! :lol:
     
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    That made me chuckle. Too many of them don't bother and they're open about it.
     
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    Reading this thread has renewed my urge to join the NAS!
     
  18. Intermodal

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    That's because you always sit right at the front away from the cab. Sometimes I forget there are other people on the train....
     
  19. Y Ddraig Coch

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    As a massive dance music lover and seeing how upset a little music other than radio 4 annoys so many of you, I wish the guard had played it over the tannoy with the Crewe - Derby , EMT guard rapping over the top.

    I would enjoy a rail journey for a change in this country. :)
     
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    Imagine the outrage if the guard had played the days coverage from Westminster out loud!
     
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    Nothing new under the sun...


    Or perhaps...
     
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    Rave music - Work of the devil. Ban it!!! Was it acid house? Trance? Techno? Happy hardcore?

    Methinks some people ought to get out more.

     
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    My thoughts exactly.
     
  24. jopsuk

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    rave music? Presumably it was the 0300, last train to Trancentral?

    :lol::lol::lol:
     
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    As someone with a medical condition (tinnitus) where intrusive noise can be very uncomfortable and sometimes even painful; I'm really glad I haven't experienced this on a train.
     
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    This thread has now got me playing 80s and 90s dance music at work. Black Box or Snap anyone?
     
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    I don't think any rules will have been broken merely by playing music. OBVIOUSLY it would be better if the music was not heard in the saloon.

    Agreed - this really is a non issue.

    Goodness me. I doubt this music was played at such a volume as to be damaging. I doubt it was being blasted out at Ministry of Sound volumes.
     
  28. Y Ddraig Coch

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    **** Breaking News****

    All TOC's to issue Bose noise cancelling headphones to all in first class and cotton wool for the passengers in std.

    :lol::rolleyes:
     
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    Fortunately for you tinnitus is something you obviously don't suffer from, the volume is not the major factor, it is simply the frequency level of the noise that does the damage, noise that those with good hearing don't realise is even there
     
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    And for me it's the opposite - silence is unbearable as that's when my tinnitus is at its high pitch squealing worst; having background noise of some type on takes that away
     

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