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GWR Class 769 information. (Units no longer with GWR - Off Lease March 23)

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This is normally in relation to Castle Cary platform 3, which can only accommodate 3 coaches and is routine on Weymouth's 1111 departure.
That and the fact the unit is detached at Westbury
 

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Regarding the supposed ASDO NDL testing, I assume it won't be before 20 February, if ever, as the line between Guildford and Reading is closed next week.
 

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The other issue with multiple Turbo formations in GWR's central & west regions is local door operation, which occurs at a number of locations between Bath & Weymouth/Warminster and quite a few places on the westcountry branchlines. This requires the opening of just a single set of doors, usually the set at the front of the train, and of course means that anyone in the rear set has no means of alighting (save for operating an egress!). Whilst it's doable with non-gangway stock, and happened for many years with 150/1s, it really isn't ideal and has a high potential for people missing their stop, especially considering the high volume of tourist traffic on these routes. So there's a further benefit of ASDO fitment there too, as some of these stations are able to accommodate at least some of both the front and rear units.
 

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The other issue with multiple Turbo formations in GWR's central & west regions is local door operation, which occurs at a number of locations between Bath & Weymouth/Warminster and quite a few places on the westcountry branchlines. This requires the opening of just a single set of doors, usually the set at the front of the train, and of course means that anyone in the rear set has no means of alighting (save for operating an egress!).
ASDO or not Avoncliff and Dilton Marsh will ever be one set of doors unless the platforms are extended.
 

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All 13x 769s at Long Marston will be required to rotate through Reading TCD for various inspections prior to handback. Expect to see paths between Reading and Long Marston appearing in the system in the near future.
First move is slated for 14/02 - 1x769 to LM to return to RG with another (769940?) in tow.
 

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All 13x 769s at Long Marston will be required to rotate through Reading TCD for various inspections prior to handback. Expect to see paths between Reading and Long Marston appearing in the system in the near future.
First move is slated for 14/02 - 1x769 to LM to return to RG with another (769940?) in tow.
So one unit will be 'dead' (in tow)? Does a single 769 have the power/tractive effort to achieve that?
 

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All 13x 769s at Long Marston will be required to rotate through Reading TCD for various inspections prior to handback. Expect to see paths between Reading and Long Marston appearing in the system in the near future.
First move is slated for 14/02 - 1x769 to LM to return to RG with another (769940?) in tow.
Now cancelled due to the line being blocked by the bridge collapse at Yarnton.
 
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I was out yesterday and can confirm that these units were at the following locations:

Oxford up cs
769943 - with one driving vehicle tagged.
769938

Reading depot
769959
Plus at least one more 769 at the West end.

If anyone knows the identity of the other Reading unit it'd be much appreciated.
 

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I was out yesterday and can confirm that these units were at the following locations:

Oxford up cs
769943 - with one driving vehicle tagged.
769938

Reading depot
769959
Plus at least one more 769 at the West end.

If anyone knows the identity of the other Reading unit it'd be much appreciated.

769930 & 769949 are together on the west siding furthest from the mainline.
769959 is with 769935 on another road. If 959 was by itself when you passed, 935 was in the shed for its hand back inspection.
 
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769930 & 769949 are together on the west siding furthest from the mainline.
769959 is with 769935 on another road. If 959 was by itself when you passed, 935 was in the shed for its hand back inspection.
Thanks very much for that info @FGW_DID. Yes 959 was on it's own at the time and I did wonder if the other (s) were the ones which had been at Oxford until recently.
 

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First move is slated for 14/02 - 1x769 to LM to return to RG with another (769940?) in tow.
Now planned for Weds 22nd with 935 going to Long Marston to attach to 940 for the return to Reading. Moves for the rest of the units at LM possibly to be loco hauled, but still being decided.
 

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769949 (also with a little graffiti) ran from Oxford to Reading Monday (15th) morning. This set had also been at Oxford up CS for some weeks.
 

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Now planned for Weds 22nd with 935 going to Long Marston to attach to 940 for the return to Reading. Moves for the rest of the units at LM possibly to be loco hauled, but still being decided.
I dont suppose you know if this is definitely happening for tomorrow? If so are there any rough times? May pop down if it isn't too early
 

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Not too sure about any Long Marston move but there should be a 2 for 2 swap between RG and Oxford.
 

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I dont suppose you know if this is definitely happening for tomorrow? If so are there any rough times? May pop down if it isn't too early
No, not happening now.

Has any progress been made with the ASDO system for testing or has that now also been dumped?
Not happening now. The focus of the 769 project is on handing back the units to Porterbrook. The focus of the ASDO project has switched back to 16x, for which testing is in the process of being planned.
 
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No, not happening now.


Not happening now. The focus of the 769 project is on handing back the units to Porterbrook. The focus of the ASDO project has switched back to 16x, for which testing is in the process of being planned.
Thanks. Presumably that will involve at least two units at a time, which I would have thought can be ill-afforded with the current stock situation. Are the 769s so poor that they can't even be used for that to save units for service?
 
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Thanks. Presumably that will involve at least two units at a time, which I would have thought can be ill-afforded with the current stock situation. Are the 769s so poor that they can't even be used for that to save units for service?
I would imagine the end of the financial year looming means the handbacks have to be done damn quick in railway terms
 

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Probably so - such is the artificially-constrained nature of stock leasing; under a nationalised/public body this constraint needn't apply.
Pretty sure accounting and financial years exist in the public sector!
 
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