scruffer04
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Isn't this one that was built for GWR before the decision was made to make all the GWR ones bimode?
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800003/004 are both in GWR livery, albeit vinyls overlayed on the white base, and have got a few gaps in the application. All of the 802s so far released (001, 002, 101) are in base green, and need to have vinyls applied to finish the livery
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2 x 4 car GWR's working 5X75 Darlington to Peterborough
Ahem. 5 car?
Yes 5 my bad
Err yes, it is hoped that when the forum is upgraded sideways photos will be a thing of the past. Hopefully...
Yes that is correct. Has been at Hitachi Merchant Park since 2016. Has been outside stored in the yard as a full complete 9 car set since October 2016. And has only been out onto test track withim the last month or so.
2 x 5 car GWR's working 5X75 Darlington to Peterborough
800003 and 800004.
We don't want people saying "4 car trains, they are repeating the mistakes of Voyagers all over again" yet again...
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Just seen 5X74 800009 at Portobello, waiting to leave for Gifford.
Mintona
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They are between the seats.
Until the trains can run level, I am not sure they're ever going to be able to go into service.
Where between the seats?
They are under the seats, under the piece you sit on, directly underneath the middle arm rest. Not an obvious place unless you put your head between your knees ??????
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Can be seen in this picture
http://www.rail.co.uk/images/8454/original/5-IEP-First-Class-carriage-by-Phil-Marsh.jpg
That's the rather shocking First Class, though I can see why you'd get it confused.
ModernRailways
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Looks similar to the First Class on ICE trains. But on those Standard and First are similar anyway.
Mintona
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Although not an IET, I believe the plug sockets are in almost exactly the same position as seen on this seats, the black indents.
http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/beijing-tianjin/images/4-velaro-train.jpg
http://www.railway-technology.com/projects/beijing-tianjin/images/4-velaro-train.jpg
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They're not as visible as that. JamesGar's post upthread puts it well - you do need to be a bit of a contortionist to find them.
Looking on Youtube yesterday there is a video of the change over from Diesel to Electric on the fly at Didcot which I find quite interesting as obviously its not something I have ever seen before in this country. I wonder if they will allow changeover on the fly on the dodgy East Coast wiring not that I would image they really need to use it much on the East Coast Anyway in normal circumstances.
Mordac
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkZgIWgqi3I
Its about 12 mins in
There is also one at Maidenhead but its not on the fly, you can hear the engines turn off as soon as the pantograph is raised
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpI6c2gO1Dk&t=72s
Of course there are those people in the dark ages who think you should mess about attaching and detaching a Diesel Loco to do this which clearly isn't very practical in the current state of GWR electrification anyway.
Any chance you can share the video?
Its about 12 mins in
There is also one at Maidenhead but its not on the fly, you can hear the engines turn off as soon as the pantograph is raised
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpI6c2gO1Dk&t=72s
Of course there are those people in the dark ages who think you should mess about attaching and detaching a Diesel Loco to do this which clearly isn't very practical in the current state of GWR electrification anyway.
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Mordac
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Thanks
!The seats do not look very comfortable at all. Seems like a step down from what we currently have. Are these new trains not meant to be an improvement on what we already have ? Or is the comfort of the passenger just an irrelevance when they build new trains?
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They don't look very comfortable, they don't feel very comfortable when you first sit down. But, having sat in them for quite some time on various test/training trains, they actually are quite comfortable in my opinion.
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That was back in July when pan up was at maximum 20mph. There have been further tests this week at Taplow/Maidenhead (as this is where power changeover will take place - manually rather than automatic - for a while when the service starts), to see if there are any issues when raising the pan at linespeed. I was told that it was done successfully at 110mph (even though linespeed there is 125mph - probably because reaching 125 on diesel is almost impossible at present until the engines are fully unrestricted).
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