GWR HST Last Services diagrams

[DevonTrains]

I have seen on a few discord servers that the last day of GWR HST service will be the 9TH December 2023, the day before the timetable change. In particular 2C91 Cardiff Central - Bristol Temple Meads. Can anyone confirm or refute this?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I have seen on a few discord servers that the last day of GWR HST service will be the 9TH December 2023, the day before the timetable change. In particular 2C91 Cardiff Central - Bristol Temple Meads. Can anyone confirm or refute this?

Complete gobble-de-gook.

 

[hexagon789]

I have seen on a few discord servers that the last day of GWR HST service will be the 9TH December 2023, the day before the timetable change. In particular 2C91 Cardiff Central - Bristol Temple Meads. Can anyone confirm or refute this?

They will be operating after the December timetable change, so that's definitely an error.

There will be 3 sets diagrammed on Mon-Fri & Saturdays, no booked Sunday workings.

Sets will also be limited to purely Penzance - Plymouth bar one extension to Exeter St David's returning ECS.

Complete gobble-de-gook.

Wot 'e said

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Sets will also be limited to purely Penzance - Plymouth bar one extension to Exeter St David's returning ECS.

Ah, now that I didn't know. From December's change? I'd be quite happy to be rid of them from Cardiff, as the legroom and personal space leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[hexagon789]

Ah, now that I didn't know. From December's change? I'd be quite happy to be rid of them from Cardiff, as the legroom and personal space leaves a lot to be desired.

Yes, diagrams applying from the 11th onwards - sets will be Penzance / Plymouth only*.

*There will be one extension to Exeter on Mon-Fri returning ECS and one Exeter starter on Saturdays (formed off an ECS).

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Yes, diagrams applying from the 11th onwards - sets will be Penzance / Plymouth only*.

*There will be one extension to Exeter on Mon-Fri returning ECS and one Exeter starter on Saturdays (formed off an ECS).

Interesting, thank you.

 

[AdamWW]

Ah, now that I didn't know. From December's change? I'd be quite happy to be rid of them from Cardiff, as the legroom and personal space leaves a lot to be desired.

The table seats are horribly cramped, but I thought the airline seats had a more generous than usual seating pitch. Or is my memory playing tricks?

 

[hexagon789]

Interesting, thank you.

Has someone not posted the new December diagrams, or am I just so used to such things being done miles in advance and no one actually has!?

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

I've just seen that two Cardiff Penzance services will terminate at Plymouth from the TT change now, and customers will need to transfer to what will assumedly be a HST shuttle.

 

[Nick Ashwell]

Ah, now that I didn't know. From December's change? I'd be quite happy to be rid of them from Cardiff, as the legroom and personal space leaves a lot to be desired.

See I'm the opposite, I love them when I get them from Severn Tunnel, the seats are better than the 80x which turnup and both are much better than traveling on the 16x which turn up sometimes, although it's all subjective I guess.

Churchward, if it happens, cannot come soon enoug! Hopefully we get something lovely!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

The only planned weekday Castle HST services from December 11th are to be:

0638 Plymouth - Penzance
1015 Plymouth - Penzance
1042 Plymouth - Penzance
1142 Plymouth - Penzance
1547 Plymouth - Penzance
1555 Plymouth - Penzance (yes, that's correct, eight minutes after)

0850 Penzance - Plymouth
1250 Penzance - Plymouth
1315 Penzance - Plymouth
1350 Penzance - Plymouth
1815 Penzance - Exeter St David's
1850 Penzance - Plymouth

 

[hexagon789]

The only planned weekday Castle HST services from December 11th are to be:

0638 Plymouth - Penzance
1015 Plymouth - Penzance
1042 Plymouth - Penzance
1142 Plymouth - Penzance
1547 Plymouth - Penzance
1555 Plymouth - Penzance (yes, that's correct, eight minutes after)

0850 Penzance - Plymouth
1250 Penzance - Plymouth
1315 Penzance - Plymouth
1350 Penzance - Plymouth
1815 Penzance - Exeter St David's
1850 Penzance - Plymouth

I have these diagrams:

Monday to Friday

5C02 0606 Laira - Plymouth ECS
2C02 0638 Plymouth - Penzance
2P08 0850 Penzance - Plymouth
2C68 1142 Plymouth - Penzance
2P17 1350 Penzance - Plymouth
2C31 1555 Plymouth - Penzance
2P27 1850 Penzance - Plymouth
5P27 2109 Plymouth - Laira ECS

5C11 0945 Laira - Plymouth ECS
2C11 1015 Plymouth - Penzance
2P15 1250 Penzance - Plymouth
5P15 1453 Plymouth - Laira ECS

5C65 1002 Laira - Plymouth ECS
2C65 1042 Plymouth - Penzance
2P16 1315 Penzance - Plymouth
2C29 1547 Plymouth - Penzance
2E26 1815 Penzance - Exeter St David's
5P26 2145 Exeter St David's - Laira ECS


Saturdays

5C40 0430 Laira - Plymouth ECS
2C40 0515 Plymouth - Penzance
2P10 0740 Penzance - Plymouth
2C16 1015 Plymouth - Penzance
2P90 1315 Penzance - Plymouth
2C28 1640 Plymouth - Penzance
2P95 1930 Penzance - Plymouth
5P95 2145 Plymouth - Laira ECS

3C12 0525 Laira - Exeter St David's ECS
2C12 0722 Exeter St David's - Penzance
2P86 1113 Penznace - Plymouth
2C22 1343 Plymouth - Penzance
2P26 1548 Penzance - Plymouth
5P26 1757 Plymouth - Laira ECS

5C20 1159 Laira - Plymouth ECS
2C20 1243 Plymouth - Penzance
2P24 1515 Penzance - Plymouth
5P24 1731 Plymouth - Laira ECS

1555 Plymouth - Penzance (yes, that's correct, eight minutes after)

The 1555 calls at more stations, so despite leaving only 8 mins later it arrives in Penzance a full 30 mins later - by Truro the 1555 regains a the usual off-peak half-hourly pattern offset from the 1547.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

This means Cornish Main Line services between Plymouth and Penzance will be booked as follows:

0533 Plymouth - Penzance IET
0638 Plymouth - Penzance HST
0712 Plymouth - Penzance IET
0743 Plymouth - Penzance 158 (from Exeter St. David's)
0809 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from Bristol Temple Meads)
0847 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from Exeter St. David's)
0912 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from Bristol Temple Meads)
0945 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from London Paddington)
1015 Plymouth - Penzance HST
1042 Plymouth - Penzance HST
1120 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from London Paddington)
1142 Plymouth - Penzance HST
1219 Plymouth - Penzance 158
1243 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from Cardiff Central)
1310 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from London Paddington)
1342 Plymouth - Penzance IET
1418 Plymouth - Penzance IET
1446 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from Cardiff Central)
1515 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from London Paddington)
1547 Plymouth - Penzance HST
1555 Plymouth - Penzance HST
1647 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from Cardiff Central)
1700 Plymouth - Liskeard 158
1722 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from London Paddington)
1746 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from Cardiff Central)
1821 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from London Paddington)
1830 Plymouth - Penzance IET
1856 Plymouth - Penzance XC (from Edinburgh)
1925 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from London Paddington)
1949 Plymouth - Penzance XC (from Aberdeen)
2029 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from London Paddington)
2117 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from London Paddington)
2146 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from Cardiff Central)
2238 Plymouth - Penzance IET (from Cardiff Central)

 

[co-tr-paul]

Until early 2025 has been mentioned......

 

[Gonzalez]

Aren't at least a couple sets gonna be retained for a few more months beyond 2023? Considering the lack of replacements for them at this moment in time?

 

[hexagon789]

Aren't at least a couple sets gonna be retained for a few more months beyond 2023? Considering the lack of replacements for them at this moment in time?

Given the December diagrams apply until June...

 

[Towers]

Until early 2025 has been mentioned......

I do hope they remain until then; aside from being a pleasure to travel on the capacity is much needed!

 

[Stuad70]

Hello, complete newbie but this morning I thought I saw an HST set working

• UID G60317, identity 1A50
  TSC 25396002, headcode 1276
• Altered WTT schedule
  10th December 2023 only
• Sleeper (Domestic)
• Great Britain (Network Rail, TPS)
• 57603 (set PZ88)

Passing through Tiverton Parkway just into 11th December - Saw it from a distance so excuse an ignorance.

 

[Trainguy34]

Hello, complete newbie but this morning I thought I saw an HST set working

• UID G60317, identity 1A50
  TSC 25396002, headcode 1276
• Altered WTT schedule
  10th December 2023 only
• Sleeper (Domestic)
• Great Britain (Network Rail, TPS)
• 57603 (set PZ88)

Passing through Tiverton Parkway just into 11th December - Saw it from a distance so excuse an ignorance.

I belive 1A50 is the headcode for the Night Riviera, hauled by a 57 (57603 in today's case).

 

[co-tr-paul]

1A50 is up NR .

 

[FGW_DID]

I belive 1A50 is the headcode for the Night Riviera, hauled by a 57 (57603 in today's case).

1A50 = Up Night Riviera Sleeper.
1C50 = Down Night Riviera Sleeper.

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

Hello, complete newbie but this morning I thought I saw an HST set working

• UID G60317, identity 1A50
  TSC 25396002, headcode 1276
• Altered WTT schedule
  10th December 2023 only
• Sleeper (Domestic)
• Great Britain (Network Rail, TPS)
• 57603 (set PZ88)

Passing through Tiverton Parkway just into 11th December - Saw it from a distance so excuse an ignorance.

The information you yourself provided verified the train as being a 57-hauled service, not an HST. Arguably much rarer to see than a HST, so nice spot!