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GWR Sunday Cancellations - crew availability - why?

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That is nice to hear because it use to be the exact opposite.

Nice except for those who don’t want to go to Gatwick, which is most passengers. Most stations have an hourly service so when stops are removed to make up time that’s an hours wait for the next one.
 
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I had a look at Journey check just now and no Sunday cancellations at all.
I should have taken a picture for prosperity
 

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I believe there is an instruction that running to destination is now a priority on Gatwicks, with service recovery to take place on the main North Downs. Happy to be corrected by one of the local experts though.
Great customer service if you are on the North Downs line to see their (2) hourly service rushing through without stopping as they ran it to Gatwick rather than spinning early at Redhill due to late running on the previous journey (and losing more time as it was stuck behind a Thameslink stopper both ways)...
 

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I had a look at Journey check just now and no Sunday cancellations at all.
I should have taken a picture for prosperity
Although I am hearing a large number of trains have out of use toilets, as they haven't been back to depots to empty them

I believe there is an instruction that running to destination is now a priority on Gatwicks, with service recovery to take place on the main North Downs. Happy to be corrected by one of the local experts though.
Quick Heads Up, there is a 2 week line closure in February between Guildford and Gatwick, with replacement buses.
 
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Nice except for those who don’t want to go to Gatwick, which is most passengers. Most stations have an hourly service so when stops are removed to make up time that’s an hours wait for the next one.
Quite a few stations have 2 hourly service so I guess it depends which ones are cancelled.
 
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It looks like the intention this afternoon to run through to Gatwick and call at the smaller stations that would have been served by the cancelled 13:54/15:29

14:24 Reading to Gatwick Airport due 15:55 will call additionally at Shalford, Dorking West and Betchworth.
15:59 Gatwick Airport to Reading due 17:29 will call additionally at Gomshall, Chilworth and Shalford.
This is due to the train making extra stops because a train was cancelled.
 
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The stations served 2 hourly will always have their stops inserted into the next service. However those which are served hourly (Crowthorne, Sandhurst etc) usually don’t. Depends if someone asks, or who is in Swindon control at the time, from my experience.
 

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The stations served 2 hourly will always have their stops inserted into the next service. However those which are served hourly (Crowthorne, Sandhurst etc) usually don’t. Depends if someone asks, or who is in Swindon control at the time, from my experience.
Makes a change from a number of years ago when that didn't happen and when I was at Chilworth and tried to ask for a stop, I was put through to an Indian call centre.

Eventually someone else gave someone a lift in their car. I was OK as I was going in the other direction.

No mobile reception around that station.
 

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From what I could see, today was a remarkably different picture to Sundays pre-Christmas. Looking at the key centres of Exeter, Taunton and Bristol Temple Meads, only a small number of cancellations showed up, and certainly fewer cancellations than in the previous few months. Those on here who said things would improve in January certainly aren't wrong so far.
 

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From what I could see, today was a remarkably different picture to Sundays pre-Christmas. Looking at the key centres of Exeter, Taunton and Bristol Temple Meads, only a small number of cancellations showed up, and certainly fewer cancellations than in the previous few months. Those on here who said things would improve in January certainly aren't wrong so far.
If annual leave started from the ppony people start work, as opposed to 1 Jan, would that make a difference?
 

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Not exactly sure what time the last flights are but Heathrow has a flight curfew around 6hrs or so so doesn't need a 24hr service anyway
Except of course that passengers will start arriving from around 3am for 6am flights, and those passengers will need to have staff around too from that time (check in, security, baggage, retail, etc) Similarly at the end of the day the last arrivals will take some time to work their way through immigration, baggage etc, and all those staff working late will need transport to get home too.
 

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From what I could see, today was a remarkably different picture to Sundays pre-Christmas. Looking at the key centres of Exeter, Taunton and Bristol Temple Meads, only a small number of cancellations showed up, and certainly fewer cancellations than in the previous few months. Those on here who said things would improve in January certainly aren't wrong so far.
There is currently an extra incentive for Sunday working throughout Jan I believe
 

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There was a debate with MPs in Westminster Hall today (14 January) on rail to South West.

In the Ministers answer towards end of transcript there is reference to Officials (of DfT) and GWR discussing the Sunday cancellations / staffing. But appears to be no solution what is agreed or planned so far (not even a partial or interim way of reducing the problem that could be announced yet)

Personally I think the answers were so vague, either the problems raised by MPs are not understood, or those in charge have no idea of what to do, as virtually every point raised didn't get an indication of what might happen.

(transcript is long so not quoting it)

A Westminster Hall debate on railway services in the South West will be held on Tuesday 14 January 2025 at 9:30am. The subject for this debate was determined by the Backbench Business Committee and the debate will be opened by Martin Wrigley MP (Liberal Democrat, Newton Abbot).
That this House has considered railway services in the South West.

It is a pleasure to serve under your chairship, Dr Allin-Khan. The south-west is hugely reliant on the mainline railway—it is an economic lifeline. As I am the MP for Newton Abbot, which includes Dawlish, Teignmouth and Kingsteignton—all towns with strong railway heritage—the railway is a fundamental part of my life and community.

Devon and Cornwall are notoriously underserved by transport: there is one motorway and just two national roads. The road network in Devon is largely minor roads full of potholes. The mainline railway is the key economic lifeline for the entire region. Getting from Exeter to Paddington in a couple of hours makes a huge difference and enables many people to work part in London and part in Devon—including myself, even before I was an MP.

The value of the railway to the economy was demonstrated during the 2014 Dawlish storm incident. From a Transport Committee record, we know that the storms on 4 February and 14 February 2014 caused a 100 metre breach in the sea wall at Dawlish and a 25,000 tonne landslip between Dawlish and Teignmouth, which was exacerbated by a further landslip on 5 March. The incident closed the line for eight weeks. An immediate repair cost of £35 million, including 300 engineers—the much-lauded “orange army”—got the line running again, but the interruption cost the local economy an estimated £1.2 billion. It is estimated that the Plymouth economy alone lost £600,000 each day the line was shut.

Since 2014 a lot has changed, but the dependence on the railway has, if anything, increased. Please do not think of tourism as the only industry in Devon: remote working has blossomed, and it is clear from Office of Road and Rail statistics that the overwhelming majority of rail journeys from Exeter and the other main stations are to and from London.

Why do we need a debate on the topic? The answer is that this vital railway link is again under threat from a number of different sources. After the 2014 storm, the then Prime Minister promised that money was no object and that the line would be made resilient. A five-phase plan was drawn up and work began. The new sea wall was built, and Dawlish railway station had a rebuilt sea defence as well. The first four phases of that plan have been done and are now in place. One massive benefit was the new bridge at Dawlish, which made both platforms accessible without steps—something that we still need in too many other stations, including Teignmouth.



 
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