No worries, lol...Of course - brain fog.
No worries, lol...Of course - brain fog.
Not necessary the case. After electric mode is activated, diesel engines take time before dying down by going through the cooling period .They ran from Euston to Ealing Broadway on diesel power. My surprise was that the switchover did not happen whilst the train was stopped at Ealing Broadway, but a few seconds later. To be clear, the diesel was definitely powering away from Ealing Broadway, then idled for around 30 seconds before shutting down.
I am fairly familiar with IETs, having travelled on them since day one. It is easy to tell the difference between an engine idling prior to shutdown, and one working flat out. It was clearly the latter on the train in question. As you say, the engine carried on idling for a while after the train started accelerating using the OHL. The carriage juddered slightly when it shut down.Not necessary the case. After electric mode is activated, diesel engines take time before dying down by going through the cooling period .
Electric mode could (and should) have been activated st Ealing Bdw but diesel engines were still running (cooling), when train pulled away but at that time train was already in electric mode.
Of course there can be a “ human factor” and driver forgot to switch to electric at stand in which case he/she could still do it as long as below 20mph.
Fair enough .I am fairly familiar with IETs, having travelled on them since day one. It is easy to tell the difference between an engine idling prior to shutdown, and one working flat out. It was clearly the latter on the train in question. As you say, the engine carried on idling for a while after the train started accelerating using the OHL. The carriage juddered slightly when it shut down.
? It already has!Unlike previous diversions, not happening!
? It already has!
Ah! That makes sense. Effectively nugatory expenditure. I was confused by the post lol....I think co-tr-Paul was referring to the production of “London Euston” window labels, for the Night Riviera
Not hugely surprised that this has happened at some point - even during the Paddington block, that line is likely set towards Wembley as the 'default', easy to miss as a signaller acting on muscle memory as it's so unusual for passenger trains to be sent that way. Looks like it was indeed reset and the correct route taken, so very much hoping there won't be much in the way of repurcussions.Looks like 1Z91 today was just given the wrong route straight up the Down Fast instead of taking the route to Acton Wells as the protecting signal was green and the route was set to Wembley. The protecting signal was subsequently reverted to red and the route timed out then set for the route to Acton Wells
Yes via Willesden No7 and Acton Canal Wharf but it needs a reversal at Acton Main Line. It would also need diesel traction.Is it possible for trains on the WCML to be diverted into Paddington if there are engineering works at Euston?
Or more practically Ealing Broadway, Hanwell Bridge Loop or West Ealing sidings.Yes via Willesden No7 and Acton Canal Wharf but it needs a reversal at Acton Main Line.
Agreed. However, if there was work at Euston, it would be more practical to divert to Waterloo or Victoria (via WLL) or Liverpool Street (via Primrose Hill and NLL). Liv St would also allow AC trains the whole way.Or more practically Ealing Broadway, Hanwell Bridge Loop or West Ealing sidings.
Yes, but it would be such a faff they would do what normally happens and terminate at Milton Keynes and bus to Bedford. They don't have enough 805s to do anything substantial.Is it possible for trains on the WCML to be diverted into Paddington if there are engineering works at Euston?
Or more practically Ealing Broadway, Hanwell Bridge Loop or West Ealing sidings.
Historically they have used Kensington Olympia via the WLL (then unelectrified, today needs both AC and DC).Or as has happened in the past many times, via the Chilterns south of Birmingham (or Coventry) then via Greenford and West Ealing.
Historically they have used Kensington Olympia via the WLL (then unelectrified, today needs both AC and DC).
There is also the unused but electrified single-track route into St Pancras via the NLL.
There's now Bletchley-Paddington via Oxford, and maybe Bletchley-Marylebone via Calvert and Aylesbury if the link is ever restored after HS2 works.
Isn't that route into St Pancras International (ie Eurostar platforms) rather than the domestic side of St Pancras ?Historically they have used Kensington Olympia via the WLL (then unelectrified, today needs both AC and DC).
There is also the unused but electrified single-track route into St Pancras via the NLL.
There's now Bletchley-Paddington via Oxford, and maybe Bletchley-Marylebone via Calvert and Aylesbury if the link is ever restored after HS2 works.
Yesterday I was on a Carmarthen to Euston service as far as Cardiff. The auto announcer and displays were giving Ealing Broadway as a passenger stop.
Sadly my neighbours had the opposite experience travelling from Euston on the 27th. Quite level headedly they have told me they will drive in future for their annual Plymouth to London christmas stay. I wonder how much business will be lost to the railway due to the descion to disrupt the Western for many years to come just to build OOC. For the record their main complaints were the train was cancelled and they had to wait 2 hours at Euston, oh , and as an elderly couple they can no longer cope with the uncomfortable seating on the GWR IETs. All such a shame, and potential income lost to the railway coffers. One has to question why it is acceptable to disrupt the Western for next 5 years minimum, when a main selling point for HS2 was not disrupting the WCML for a long period......As somebody who is returning to the railways after many years.
(The last long distance train I used had a Restaurant car we wandered down to.)
We had to visit the outlaws in Cardiff from Horsham on Sunday29th.
I duely popped in to the ticket office and worked out the Victoria/Euston shuffle.
To be fair to the TOCs it was a very easy journey. Everything worked as advertised. The train at Euston was announced in plenty of time, There were four bods checking tickets and railcards but no queues. Took a minute or two to work out the seat reservation system but lots of green lights so all good. The crew swap at Reading was explained well and off we went.
The return journey was equally seamless so we had a great day exploring the world of modern train travel. It's changed a bit since the last time.
If future journeys are like this I can forsee a return to the railways for travel.
As an aside, we've never seen a coffee bag before.![]()
We have done this before, the WCML has had plenty of disruption af Euston and will have plenty more when Handsacre is built. Im not sure what the engineering block has to do with them not liking IET seats or a train being cancelled. The seats are the seats and trains are cancelled every day.Sadly my neighbours had the opposite experience travelling from Euston on the 27th. Quite level headedly they have told me they will drive in future for their annual Plymouth to London christmas stay. I wonder how much business will be lost to the railway due to the descion to disrupt the Western for many years to come just to build OOC. For the record their main complaints were the train was cancelled and they had to wait 2 hours at Euston, oh , and as an elderly couple they can no longer cope with the uncomfortable seating on the GWR IETs. All such a shame, and potential income lost to the railway coffers. One has to question why it is acceptable to disrupt the Western for next 5 years minimum, when a main selling point for HS2 was not disrupting the WCML for a long period......
I'm making the point that all the pain being lumped on GWR passengers at present , whether it be the seating, or now the addition of a railway that will be barely usable during holiday periods, is going to lead to lost custom and disruption for very little benefit (to those from south Wales and the south west).We have done this before, the WCML has had plenty of disruption af Euston and will have plenty more when Handsacre is built. Im not sure what the engineering block has to do with them not liking IET seats or a train being cancelled. The seats are the seats and trains are cancelled every day.