Health and Safety at work

[Railwayboffin]

If someone reports a Close Call or Near Miss can this prevent progression in the rail industry in the future?

 

[Eccles1983]

No.

Failing to report it will.

 

[Gemz91]

By reporting a "near miss," someone who has walked across the line in front of you, certainly would not harm progression in the railway. If anything, by not reporting a near miss it would be harming your chances of progression.

Unless you mean something else when you say a near miss?

 

[Railwayboffin]

I mean if someone reports a close call on an action caused by the person wishing to progress.

 

[heedfan]

If you end up with something on your safety of the line record as a result of an investigation then that will follow you around, but whether that is likely to prevent progression depends on the incident and what jobs you are interested in. It's hard to give you more specific advice than that unless you are more specific about the exact circumstances.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

I mean if someone reports a close call on an action caused by the person wishing to progress.

Have you something specific to report? Then you are duty-bound to report it

Or, have you done something and worried that someone is going to report you?

If it's safety-critical then I wouldn't be surprised if the incident went on record

 

[Gemz91]

I mean if someone reports a close call on an action caused by the person wishing to progress.

Can you give an example of what a "close call on an action caused by the person" is? I literally have no idea what you are asking here. Do you mean if someone has cocked up and not reported themselves but someone else reported them?

 

[Railwayboffin]

Person A will report person B for an act they see as a close call. Person A has just been told they will receive a telling off and no further action will be taken. Will this still affect their career for safety critical roles?

 

[Gemz91]

If no written documentation has been taken and its just a verbal "don't do it again" I can't see it effecting their chance of progression. If its a verbal telling off and no theres no record of it, there's no reason why anyone would remember/know it happened.

 

[ChrisRS]

Would you want someone to progress further in the rail industry by not reporting a close call or near miss?

 

[Railwayboffin]

It has been reported as a close call and will be investigated so is it the outcome of the investigation whether or not it could affect progression?

 

[berwicksfinest]

I think a more fitting question is if you see something, and fail to report and it happens again, and results in someone getting hurt or worse. Could your conscious handle it ??

 

[Stigy]

It has been reported as a close call and will be investigated so is it the outcome of the investigation whether or not it could affect progression?

If an incident is being investigated, nobody can say 100% what the outcome will be, and shouldn’t really be telling you that you WILL just get a telling off etc. Unless the person saying this is the person conducting the investigation, and any outcome is solely theirs to make.

 

[Railwayboffin]

Hi okay thanks guys was just for a friend.

Many Thanks,

 

[Stigy]

Hi okay thanks guys was just for a friend.

Many Thanks,

Does this ‘friend’ have the same name and date of birth as you?

Only joking.

 

[Islineclear3_1]

@Railwayboffin

Why not just let us know the details and then people can advise you properly

Nobody should be punished for reporting a safety matter

 

[Tomnick]

I think there’s some confusion here. I’m guessing, by the reference to “close call” that the OP means someone putting a report in about an unsafe system of work or another employee or contractor doing something unsafe - Network Rail were certainly big on it - rather than a near miss in the sense that traincrew are probably more familiar with. I guess the fear is that putting reports in can leave you seen as a troublemaker? I’d imagine and hope that it’s a completely unfounded fear, especially away from the world of contractors!

A previous employer defined a “close call” as (words to the effect of) something that could have caused injury or worse if circumstances had been slightly different - so something like a contractor not wearing proper PPE or a trip hazard in an office or scaffolding that was overdue an inspection would all fall in the scope of the reporting system even though there hadn’t actually been any hint of drama.

 

[Stigy]

I think there’s some confusion here. I’m guessing, by the reference to “close call” that the OP means someone putting a report in about an unsafe system of work or another employee or contractor doing something unsafe - Network Rail were certainly big on it - rather than a near miss in the sense that traincrew are probably more familiar with. I guess the fear is that putting reports in can leave you seen as a troublemaker? I’d imagine and hope that it’s a completely unfounded fear, especially away from the world of contractors!

A previous employer defined a “close call” as (words to the effect of) something that could have caused injury or worse if circumstances had been slightly different - so something like a contractor not wearing proper PPE or a trip hazard in an office or scaffolding that was overdue an inspection would all fall in the scope of the reporting system even though there hadn’t actually been any hint of drama.

Agreed. If anything, having experience of reporting matters can aid at interview times as there’s often the odd question on this.

If the issue is that the op’s friend was reported and investigated, that may be where he confusion lies. In which case, it MAY indeed have an impact on future employees depending on the nature of the incident and its outcome.

 

[Railwayboffin]

Hi Guys,

Thanks for your opinions which is what I was looking for.

Its all been sorted now.

Thanks