No, the fact book was correct - but you had the wrong fact. The islands of Big Diomede (Russia) and Little Diomede (USA) in the middle of the Bering Strait are indeed about 3.5 km apart (2.2 mi), but with the population of Big Diomede being zero it's hardly a major trade route requiring an undersea railway. A dinghy for summer and a snowmobile for winter should be more than enough.Of course fact books are wrong as usual so 81 kilometeres, err...can be done if all the legal stuff is sorted![]()
By "if costs allow it" I assume you mean a cost-benefit analysis suggests it's viable, then we can safely say the answer is no.I still favour the idea of Fleetwood-Barrow if costs allow it.
I'd put a Fleetwood-Barrow underwater tunnel in the category of fantasy rather than viable, but we can agree to disagree on that.We're not in fantasy land. It has to be viable.
DownSouth:1107901 said:A link directly from Spain to Morocco would be better, leave Gibraltar out of it as it has no rail link to Spain. The whole thing could actually be built entirely within Spanish jurisdiction, the nearest Spanish city Algeciras being both closer to the narrowest point of the Strait and already equipped with a rail link. Then on the African side, there is the small Spanish exclave which could have the tunnel portal and a station before a land border crossing into Morocco. See the attached image, with 17 kilometre line marked.Another couple of ideas i had, would an undersea tunnel from Gibraltar to Morocco work, on the downside to that, the Spanish may not like the idea.
How about a railway connecting the Canary Islands with undersea tunnels and also an tunnel Italy and Sicily...
As for linking between the Islas Canarias, don't even think about it. The volumes of passengers and freight involved might only just make a case for new railways if they were towns the same distances apart on a mainland area.
The Strait of Messina between Sicily and mainland Italy will not be getting a tunnel for one very good reason - a combined road/rail bridge is currently under construction. It has been criticised by Sicilians for being a wasteful project, saying that even more time could be saved by keeping the current ferries and improving the local roads!
I don't think the Spanish want to do anything about Gibraltar other than ignoring it, certainly not building a railway line to it.For the Gibraltar idea, I was thinking about it as a way to open Gibraltar to the Spanish by linking them to Spains rail network and slap a tunnel in Gibraltar under the Med...Like I said before unlikely. I forgot about Algeciras being where it is and would probably be the position to put a Med Sea Tunnel...
Some other places I was thinking about a tunnel
1. A tunnel between Australia and Tasmania
2. A tunnel under the Rio De La Plata between Argentina and Uruguay
3. A tunnel from somewhere in Baja California to the rest of Mexico
4. A tunnel under the Gulf of Mexico from Louisiana to Florida
5. Or a Tunnel under the Suez Canal to go through the Sinai to Israel
By "if costs allow it" I assume you mean a cost-benefit analysis suggests it's viable, then we can safely say the answer is no.
I'd put a Fleetwood-Barrow underwater tunnel in the category of fantasy rather than viable, but we can agree to disagree on that.
DownSouth:1109515 said:I don't think the Spanish want to do anything about Gibraltar other than ignoring it, certainly not building a railway line to it.For the Gibraltar idea, I was thinking about it as a way to open Gibraltar to the Spanish by linking them to Spains rail network and slap a tunnel in Gibraltar under the Med...Like I said before unlikely. I forgot about Algeciras being where it is and would probably be the position to put a Med Sea Tunnel...
Some other places I was thinking about a tunnel
1. A tunnel between Australia and Tasmania
2. A tunnel under the Rio De La Plata between Argentina and Uruguay
3. A tunnel from somewhere in Baja California to the rest of Mexico
4. A tunnel under the Gulf of Mexico from Louisiana to Florida
5. Or a Tunnel under the Suez Canal to go through the Sinai to Israel
Anyway...
1. Bass Strait is way too deep and way too wide (shortest straight line distance of 225 km) for a fixed transport link from Victoria to Tasmania. Container ships do the job just fine at the moment, albeit a bit slower than a railway could.
2. There are fixed links between Argentina and Uruguay further upstream. The area of Uruguay opposite Buenos Aires is too rural to justify a new fixed link nearer to there, and if it did happen it would be best suited to a road and not a railway.
3. Most of Baja California is not populated enough to justify a fixed link, and the Gulf of California is also too wide.
4. Now we're just getting ridiculous! That would be way too long and wouldn't cut off enough of the distance for it to be worthwhile on what is mostly a freight railway.
5. A road bridge, a road tunnel and a rail bridge already exist over/under the Suez Canal.
Sounds interesting, creating a new island might be a viable idea.Since somebody mentioned Sodor, here's an idea: create Sodor. Or, rather, an artificial island (or chain of) between Barrow and Mann, with tunnels between the them, and then a tunnel between Mann and Ireland. The new island would contain a new city.
- Hull-Barton-on-Humber, with the East Lincs reopening to allow faster services from Grimsby and improved freight links from Cleethorpes
Fleetwood to Barrow would never happen, but even if it did there are bridges longer than the gap so would a tunnel even be necessary?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...idge-miles-FURTHER-Dover-Calais-crossing.html
Fleetwood to Barrow would never happen, but even if it did there are bridges longer than the gap so would a tunnel even be necessary?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...idge-miles-FURTHER-Dover-Calais-crossing.html
Since somebody mentioned Sodor, here's an idea: create Sodor. Or, rather, an artificial island (or chain of) between Barrow and Mann, with tunnels between the them, and then a tunnel between Mann and Ireland. The new island would contain a new city.
On a slight tangent to this - does anyone know what the factors are determining whether you build a bridge or a tunnel?
Or perhaps the link would have attracted no additional traffic and would now be struggling with four times Euro Tunnel's debt.
How about Tilbury to Gravesend?![]()