Is London Bridge to Waterloo East using Southeastern Trains a zone 1 journey?

[redreni]

My assumption was always that it was about maintaining the higher fares for a TfL + NR journey. E.g. If travelling from somewhere on the Jubilee line, say Bond Street, to Greenwich for example, the system would know if you went Bond Street - Bank - Greenwich or if you used national rail by going Bond Street - Southwark / Waterloo East - Greenwich.

Maybe, although if that's the case, thankfully attitudes seem to have changed between whenever those barriers went in and whenever the detailed design of the rebuilt Abbey Wood station was finalised. Because you now have journeys like Farringdon to Abbey Wood where PAYG fares are charged on the TfL scale even if you make the journey on Thameslink only, or on Thameslink to London Bridge then Southeastern.

Thank goodness we don't have fare gates all over the interchanges within Farringdon and Abbey Wood!

Who knows, perhaps revenue risk having shifted from Southeastern to DfT might be relevant?

 

[bicbasher]

Maybe, although if that's the case, thankfully attitudes seem to have changed between whenever those barriers went in and whenever the detailed design of the rebuilt Abbey Wood station was finalised. Because you now have journeys like Farringdon to Abbey Wood where PAYG fares are charged on the TfL scale even if you make the journey on Thameslink only, or on Thameslink to London Bridge then Southeastern.

Thank goodness we don't have fare gates all over the interchanges within Farringdon and Abbey Wood!

Who knows, perhaps revenue risk having shifted from Southeastern to DfT might be relevant?

I believe they go for the cheapest PAYG fare between two stations that use two different fare scales.

Forest Hill to Farringdon used to be NR default regardless if you travelled via London Bridge on Southern/Thameslink or via Windrush, H&C or Elizabeth on TfL, but since NR fares have increased and is still the default journey, a pink reader tap is required at Whitechapel to get the cheaper TfL single fare.