June 2024 Timetable Change

[IanXC]

I think its time for this thread...

So far we've seen TPE talking of their West Coast services returning to 2 hourly:

TPE to go 2-hourly Glasgow/Edinburgh on WCML from June (still at 110mph?)

https://www.railwaygazette.com/uk/battery-traction-trial-ahead-as-transpennine-express-fortunes-improve/65838.article Hopefully seeing a better service now on the WCML. About a year ago almost all the TPE services I attempted to travel on were cancelled. Any news about allowing their...

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On past form the first schedules will be uploaded any day now.

This thread is not for speculative discussion, its for actual news of actual changes.

And if you want to discuss when we last had a timetable change that wasn't May or December feel free to post a new, separate thread!

 

[dk1]

I have been told some improvements to journey times Norwich-Liverpool Street with some trains losing/gaining Stratford & Chelmsford calls.

 

[xtradj]

Are there plans to make the last direct Liverpool to Leeds later?

Currently it is 21:05 (to Newcastle) however this often doesn’t run for the last couple of years due to engineering works which seem to be a regular occurrence

 

[jamieintercity]

Leven and Cameron bridge are expected to open with an hourly service to Edinburgh, don't know if its via dunfermline or kirkcaldy.

Ayrshire and inverclyde services are to change as well as part of the consultation that happened.

Don't know what other scotrail services are to change in June.

 

[philosopher]

Sure this has been mentioned in another thread, but why is it in June instead of May?

 

[Blindtraveler]

Leven and Cameron bridge are expected to open with an hourly service to Edinburgh, don't know if its via dunfermline or kirkcaldy.

Ayrshire and inverclyde services are to change as well as part of the consultation that happened.

Don't know what other scotrail services are to change in June.

Hope Ayrshire and invertlied changes result in some speeding up of services, these roots have been shocking since the pandemic and fit for the future exercise

 

[The Planner]

Sure this has been mentioned in another thread, but why is it in June instead of May?

Its a fallout from the proposal to move to three timetables a year. That isnt happening but the process couldnt be recovered for this year back to May.

 

[AJDesiro]

WMR Birmingham-Shrewsbury is supposedly going up to 2tph, with a new limited stop service going via Bescot, though I've not seen the full news article.

 

[OliverH68]

On past form the first schedules will be uploaded any day now.

I am informed this *should* be the following week after next, all being well.

 

[Whiggism]

Will this timetable introduce large changes to services like the May 2018 timetable?

 

[hexagon789]

Will this timetable introduce large changes to services like the May 2018 timetable?

Major changes are usually December, with May (this year June) being the subsidiary change.

 

[JW4]

WMR Birmingham-Shrewsbury is supposedly going up to 2tph, with a new limited stop service going via Bescot, though I've not seen the full news article.

Would it be introduced as
SHR —> WLN —> TFC —> SFN —> CSL —> WVH —> BHM?

WMR Birmingham-Shrewsbury is supposedly going up to 2tph, with a new limited stop service going via Bescot, though I've not seen the full news article.

New Black Country rail stations will be served by fast Shrewsbury-New Street route

Two under-construction Black Country railway stations will be served by a new fast service, it has been revealed.

www.shropshirestar.com

seems the article is pay-walled up to “see screenshot“
and archive programs don’t seem to be able to get past it,
Would imply it would be introduced with a Tame Bridge call tho.

 

[The Planner]

WMR Birmingham-Shrewsbury is supposedly going up to 2tph, with a new limited stop service going via Bescot, though I've not seen the full news article.

It is. Goes via Bescot to pick up the non opened stations at Willenhall and Darlaston.

 

[JW4]

It is. Goes via Bescot to pick up the non opened stations at Willenhall and Darlaston.

Would they be passes or non-advertised stops?

 

[AJDesiro]

It is. Goes via Bescot to pick up the non opened stations at Willenhall and Darlaston.

Brilliant, I couldn't view the whole article as in post #12, but that's really good to see, the Shrewsbury's are always healthily loaded.

 

[The Planner]

Would they be passes or non-advertised stops?

Probably just a load of pathing time added in until the stations are opened and the schedules tweaked.

 

[AJDesiro]

Probably just a load of pathing time added in until the stations are opened and the schedules tweaked.

Same as the old Birmingham-Crewe via Bescot service then, always a bit of a wait to pass Crane St Jn / get into Wolverhampton as a result.

 

[JW4]

Same as the old Birmingham-Crewe via Bescot service then, always a bit of a wait to pass Crane St Jn / get into Wolverhampton as a result.

On the way back it waited at Soho East Jn I remember, usually for an XC to pass through Soho South first.

 

[RHolmes]

Are there plans to make the last direct Liverpool to Leeds later?

Currently it is 21:05 (to Newcastle) however this often doesn’t run for the last couple of years due to engineering works which seem to be a regular occurrence

No permanent changes to North route until Dec 24’

 

[Peter0124]

Wonder if the Ayr station hotel situation will be sorted by the June TT change. I believe Ayr C.S.D. has been Out of Use for a while because of it, so that might impact diagrams if the lines through Ayr are still closed

 

[hexagon789]

Wonder if the Ayr station hotel situation will be sorted by the June TT change. I believe Ayr C.S.D. has been Out of Use for a while because of it, so that might impact diagrams if the lines through Ayr are still closed

Present dates:

Station fully re-opened to traffic - 11 March

Hotel demolition complete - 30 September

 

[Starmill]

Leven and Cameron bridge are expected to open with an hourly service to Edinburgh, don't know if its via dunfermline or kirkcaldy.

The most recent ScotRail consultation suggested that for the first timetable period on opening, both of the Fife Circle Edinburgh - Glenrothes with Thornton* services would run through to Leven. Thus two per hour, not one.

In the second timetable period these would both be withdrawn and replaced by a new stopping service via Kirkcaldy, cutting frequency down to hourly. Currently this is the Perth or Dundee service.

In the final state it was proposed that one of the Fife Circle services would then return.

* at present one of the two is empty stock and not carrying passengers between Cowdenbeath and Glenrothes with Thornton.

Would it be introduced as
SHR —> WLN —> TFC —> SFN —> CSL —> WVH —> BHM?

A pretty big deal for Shifnal and Codsall to at last have their 2tph back. The current Saturday service is very lacking.

 

[A S Leib]

From a previous thread, it looks like there'll be some retimings on Southeastern suburban services.

Are any one-a-day services set to face the axe this June (rather than just being at the consultation stage like LNER to Glasgow and Stirling)?

 

[louis97]

The most recent ScotRail consultation suggested that for the first timetable period on opening, both of the Fife Circle Edinburgh - Glenrothes with Thornton* services would run through to Leven. Thus two per hour, not one.

In the second timetable period these would both be withdrawn and replaced by a new stopping service via Kirkcaldy, cutting frequency down to hourly. Currently this is the Perth or Dundee service.

Those two timetables were defined as "Interim Timetable A" and "Interim Timetable B", with the consultation asking which should be implemented before timetable planned for 2025. So the line will either open with the former (2tph both via Dunfermline) or the latter (1tph via Kirkcaldy) before the proposed 2025 timetable.

 

[ollie_hunt1660]

Pretty sure the new west coastway timetable will be coming into effect as of June

 

[Falcon1200]

Ayrshire and inverclyde services are to change as well as part of the consultation that happened.

Hope Ayrshire and invertlied changes result in some speeding up of services, these roots have been shocking since the pandemic and fit for the future exercise

Have the Ayrshire services not already been recast at the last timetable change, going back essentially to the pre-6 trains per hour plan, with the Ayr trains no longer calling at all stations between Johnstone and Kilwinning and the Largs/Ardrossan trains picking up those stops instead? But Inverclyde does have major changes coming!

 

[Peter0124]

Have the Ayrshire services not already been recast at the last timetable change, going back essentially to the pre-6 trains per hour plan, with the Ayr trains no longer calling at all stations between Johnstone and Kilwinning and the Largs/Ardrossan trains picking up those stops instead? But Inverclyde does have major changes coming!

It was silly for them to make the Gourock services 2tph all stoppers. Looking forward to the new Inverclyde TT!

 

[swt_passenger]

Pretty sure the new west coastway timetable will be coming into effect as of June

I would be somewhat surprised if it did, it was recently noted in the dedicated thread that the track access application had disappeared…

 

[Bald Rick]

Will this timetable introduce large changes to services like the May 2018 timetable?

Not really. This one is fairly quiet.

I would be somewhat surprised if it did, it was recently noted in the dedicated thread that the track access application had disappeared…

It’s happening.

 

[43074]

Will this timetable introduce large changes to services like the May 2018 timetable?

December will be bigger. And will probably be similar to May 18 with the fallout