Lancaster - Carlisle

[MCR247]

I'm planning an All Line Rover next easter and I'm curious about what stock the 0858 from Lancaster - Carlisle (1239) is booked for*? If its a pacer, do they have toilets?

*After the December TT change

Thanks in advance

 

[Swift-Deere]

I'm planning an All Line Rover next easter and I'm curious about what stock the 0858 from Lancaster - Carlisle (1239) is booked for*? If its a pacer, do they have toilets?

*After the December TT change

Thanks in advance

Go by Pendo its a lot quicker

 

[gareth taylor]

It'll probaly be a 153 or a 156 on it than a pacer.

Gareth.

 

[MCR247]

Go by Pendo its a lot quicker

Yeah, I gathered that, but I want to go via that route because a friend told me the scenery was good.

 

[Swift-Deere]

Yeah, I gathered that, but I want to go via that route because a friend told me the scenery was good.

Ok fair point, the scenery up there will be lovely

 

[gordonthemoron]

the scenery is good until about Ravenglass (if you discount the areas around Barrow and Millom), pretty crap from there onwards

 

[brompton rail]

The scenery on the Cumbrian Coast line is excellent for much of the journey, though between Maryport and Carlisle you loose the sea (and on a good day views of the Isle of Man).

My experience of riding that train - about a year or so ago now - was it was one of those delightful yellow Merseyrail liveried "Nodding Donkeys", yes those that have 90 degree seats with backs only as far up as your kidneys. Mind you more recent trip on Carlisle - Workington section were 153 or 156. Good luck - choose a clear day and it will be enjoyable - take a flask 'cause no buffet!!

 

[mrcheek]

I took that route back in June, at a different time, and it was a 156.
And as scenery goes, its the best journey in England, marginally beating out the Dawlish coast.

 

[Pumbaa]

Lancaster seems to be dominated by 153/156. Pacer's not uncommon, would be unlucky to get one. Toilets yes on Pacers.

 

[Swift-Deere]

Lancaster seems to be dominated by 153/156. Pacer's not uncommon, would be unlucky to get one. Toilets yes on Pacers.

I would agree ive not seen any Pacers there yet

 

[sarniasiren]

We went to Maryport in September, cant remember for sure if it was 153 or 156. It wasnt a 142 though.
Enjoy your ALR, please do a posting of your trips.
I am thinking of giving it a go next year. Very expensive though compared to a North West Rover at £70, which could of course be combined with adjoining areas
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Just found my posting on the rover, it was a 156 both ways on that journey

 

[43106]

I used to live at Seascale and used the line regularly, but that was back in the 1960's. From my recent observations, it was all 153 & 156 - no Pacers to be seen (thank God!) I always liked St. Bees - Parton and Harrington - Workington. I've never gone much on scenery, as I'm an out & out townie! Sorry!

 

[mbonwick]

Most likely a 153 or 156. Pacers only really get up the Cumbrian Coast when Sprinters aren't available.

They're the staple of the Morecambe - Leeds services though.

 

[Toots]

Yeah, I gathered that, but I want to go via that route because a friend told me the scenery was good.

This is a great line with a bit of everything.It hugs the coast for long parts of the journey so has great views of the sea.It also has some lovely countryside looking in land.From a railway point of view,it still has many signalboxes,stations and a few sidings.Obviously its all down to personal opinion,but I reckon this is one of the finest railway journeys in the country.

 

[Helvellyn]

I am thinking of giving it a go next year. Very expensive though compared to a North West Rover at £70, which could of course be combined with adjoining areas.

The only downside with a lot of the local Rovers if this that travel usually has to start Off-Peak. The ALR at least has no time restrictions, so you can get some good early starts. Though Regional Rovers are good value if you're staying in a certain area.

Mind you, an ALR with PRIV is hellish good value! I did a week of travelling for under £100 last year on one. It's still good value even after ATOC put it up after Lord Adonis made his round Britain trip.

 

[driver9000]

Pacers no longer have any booked work on the Cumbrian coast, its all 153s and 156s.

 

[Tugzrule]

Pacers no longer have any booked work on the Cumbrian coast, its all 153s and 156s.

Kind of true, but the Northern Spirit (1624? from Newcastle) can be a 142 to Whitehaven. Do get some on other services but as you say they are not booked AFAIK.

 

[poshbakerloo]

I used to go on the Cumbrian coast lines all the time to visit people at Workington! back in 2002 it was either a 153 or 142...

 

[MCR247]

Its now 2009!

 

[General Zod]

Over the last few years during the summer hols I have been doing some house sitting in Ulverston. My usual route is to take either TPE or Northern from Lancaster. The route will take you through pretty little villages like Arnside and Silverdale which are Areas of Outstanding Natural Beauty along with Grange-over-Sands; a quaint seaside resort. The train goes over and along the sands and you can see into Morecambe Bay. The views are absolutely stunning; on par, if not better, than Dawlish. Perhaps your itinerary will not allow it but it is definitely worth taking time out to do some sightseeing.

Z

 

[MCR247]

Thanks I'll bear that in mind. Where does the journey start/journey?

 

[driver9000]

Thanks I'll bear that in mind. Where does the journey start/journey?

A few start at Lancaster but most start from Barrow in Furness along with some from Whitehaven/Workington.

the TPE service runs to/from Manchester Airport.

http://www.northernrail.org/pdfs/timetables/20090427/6.pdf

new timetable is also available if your going after 13 December

 

[MCR247]

Thanks

 

[142094]

The Newcastle to Whitehaven service is usually worked by two 156s, although I'm unsure if they split at Carlisle.

 

[Trains06]

When I went it was a 156 but I know 153s do go up and down that line

 

[Tugzrule]

The Newcastle to Whitehaven service is usually worked by two 156s, although I'm unsure if they split at Carlisle.

I have always seen at as single 156 which it was last night. Does seem bad if it is a 142 as at one point it was a flagship service linking two major routes. EDIT saying that it went tonight with 142020

 

[142094]

Last few times I've seen it it was a double 156, but I guess its open to changes on the day.