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Is there such a thing as a licenced, or permitted, capacity for a rail vehicle, as there is for buses?
I'm certain that there isn't but I want to have some documentary evidence before I wade into an argument :D
 
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No, this crops up from time to time, and there isn't.

However if a Pendolino is carrying too much weight, the tilt will be deactivated (see overloaded carriages) which, depending on destination, could cause it to miss its path and be put onto slow lines to avoid delaying services behind. To avoid that situation, staff may ask passengers to leave the train (and/or re-distribute themselves among the coaches more evenly).
 

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There are maximum seated and standing capacities for each different kind of rolling stock though, and overcrowding can be measured as "Passengers in excess of capacity" (PiXC), being the number of passengers above the total of these two figures combined.

There is also a minimum area of floor space per passenger that varies depending on the interior specification of the train type involved - Metro, suburban or long distance, that is used to set these maximum capacities.

I reckon that the PiXC measure is the closest that we have got to a maximum permitted capacity of train services over a given route, but it doesn't perform the same function as the maximum permitted loadings for buses.
 

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No, this crops up from time to time, and there isn't.

However if a Pendolino is carrying too much weight, the tilt will be deactivated (see overloaded carriages) which, depending on destination, could cause it to miss its path and be put onto slow lines to avoid delaying services behind. To avoid that situation, staff may ask passengers to leave the train (and/or re-distribute themselves among the coaches more evenly).

Free upgrades to 1st class for fat people?

(Sorry, couldn't resist...)
 

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There are maximum seated and standing capacities for each different kind of rolling stock though, and overcrowding can be measured as "Passengers in excess of capacity" (PiXC), being the number of passengers above the total of these two figures combined.

There is also a minimum area of floor space per passenger that varies depending on the interior specification of the train type involved - Metro, suburban or long distance, that is used to set these maximum capacities.

I reckon that the PiXC measure is the closest that we have got to a maximum permitted capacity of train services over a given route, but it doesn't perform the same function as the maximum permitted loadings for buses.

So there is a 'designed' capacity, for want of a better phrase, but no mechanism for regulating that capacity?
 

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Nym:1230885 said:
No, this crops up from time to time, and there isn't.

However if a Pendolino is carrying too much weight, the tilt will be deactivated (see overloaded carriages) which, depending on destination, could cause it to miss its path and be put onto slow lines to avoid delaying services behind. To avoid that situation, staff may ask passengers to leave the train (and/or re-distribute themselves among the coaches more evenly).

Free upgrades to 1st class for fat people?

(Sorry, couldn't resist...)

I'll take that
 
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