List of short platforms on the London Underground.

[swt class 450]

Does anyone have a list of all of the short platforms on the London Underground and which carriages and or doors will not open at these stations? Many thanks.

 

[bramling]

Does anyone have a list of all of the short platforms on the London Underground and which carriages and or doors will not open at these stations? Many thanks.

Northern Line (from memory!) all rear set of double doors unless otherwise noted:
Hampstead northbound
Euston (City) southbound
Moorgate southbound (front doors)
Clapham Common southbound
Clapham Common northbound (front doors)
Camden Town (Barnet) northbound
Charing Cross northbound (front doors)
Charing Cross southbound

 

[Peter Mugridge]

Front or rear doors depending on direction of travel - some of these are one set of doors, some are two sets of doors. Never really paid attention to how many at each...

Baker Street ( Circle )
Paddington Praed Street
Bayswater
Notting Hill Gate

I think there's one or two on the Wimbledon branch as well?

 

[Domh245]

Front or rear doors depending on direction of travel - some of these are one set of doors, some are two sets of doors. Never really paid attention to how many at each...

Baker Street ( Circle )
Paddington Praed Street
Bayswater
Notting Hill Gate

I think there's one or two on the Wimbledon branch as well?

I seem to remember that it is something like the first 2 front and rear sets of doors at Paddington, Bayswater and Notting Hill gate. As for the Wimbledon branch, off the top of my head (and applicable to S7 stock only)

West Brompton (front door)
Parsons Green (rear door)
Putney Bridge (front door although this might have been removed since?)

 

[HXX]

Northern Line (from memory!) all rear set of double doors unless otherwise noted:
Hampstead northbound
Euston (City) southbound
Moorgate southbound (front doors)
Clapham Common southbound
Clapham Common northbound (front doors)
Camden Town (Barnet) northbound
Charing Cross northbound (front doors)
Charing Cross southbound

Clapham Common is only southbound

 

[Dstock7080]

Ealing Bdwy pfm.7 - eastern door
Ealing Common EB - rear 2 doors; WB front door
Acton Town EB4 - rear door; EB3 front 2 + rear door; WB2 front door + rear door
Gunnersbury DOWN - front door
Hammersmith EB2 - rear door; WB3 front door + rear door
West Kensington EB - rear 2 doors
West Brompton WB - front door
Parsons Green WB - rear door
Putney Bridge WB - front door
Notting Hill Gate OR - front 1 + rear 2; IR front 2 + rear 2
Bayswater OR - front 2 + rear 2; IR front 2 + rear 2
Paddington OR - front door + rear 2; IR front door + rear 2
Gloucester Road WB1 - front door + rear door; WB2 front door + rear door
Sloane Square EB - front door
Temple EB - rear door; WB front door
Cannon Street EB - front door; WB front door
Monument EB front door; WB rear door
Dagenham East EB - front door
Hornchurch EB - front door
Upminster pfm.5 western door

Baker Street OR - rear 3 doors

 

[Mikey C]

Ealing Bdwy pfm.7 - eastern door
Ealing Common EB - rear 2 doors; WB front door
Acton Town EB4 - rear door; EB3 front 2 + rear door; WB2 front door + rear door
Gunnersbury DOWN - front door
Hammersmith EB2 - rear door; WB3 front door + rear door
West Kensington EB - rear 2 doors
West Brompton WB - front door
Parsons Green WB - rear door
Putney Bridge WB - front door
Notting Hill Gate OR - front 1 + rear 2; IR front 2 + rear 2
Bayswater OR - front 2 + rear 2; IR front 2 + rear 2
Paddington OR - front door + rear 2; IR front door + rear 2
Gloucester Road WB1 - front door + rear door; WB2 front door + rear door
Sloane Square EB - front door
Temple EB - rear door; WB front door
Cannon Street EB - front door; WB front door
Monument EB front door; WB rear door
Dagenham East EB - front door
Hornchurch EB - front door
Upminster pfm.5 western door

Baker Street OR - rear 3 doors

Is the clockwise Baker Street platform the only one on the network where a whole carriage doesn't fit on the platform?

 

[philthetube]

Then there is Harrow S/B and Northwood northbound where the platform is long enough but the signalling necessitates stopping a car through the platform in order to be able to see the shunt signal when going into the sidings.

 

[Dstock7080]

Is the clockwise Baker Street platform the only one on the network where a whole carriage doesn't fit on the platform?

In normal service, yes

 

[Mojo]

Then there is Harrow S/B and Northwood northbound where the platform is long enough but the signalling necessitates stopping a car through the platform in order to be able to see the shunt signal when going into the sidings.

Similarly to Pic trains reversing east to west at Kings +, the trains have to stop in the tunnel with the east end double doors and a single leaf of the next double doors cut out, this is to ensure the T/Op can see the signal and monitors from the west end cab.

 

[sk688]

I've been on s8s at Harrow which haven't opened last set of doors, on p4 I believe

 

[rebmcr]

Great Portland Street - Last set - Both directions - Metropolitan only.

 

[matt_world2004]

Kings Cross St Pancras on metropolitan line

 

[bluegoblin7]

Kings Cross St Pancras on metropolitan line

No. All doors are platformed on all lines. The only exception is a Piccadilly line train reversing East to west in service; easternmost three door leaves will remain cut out.

 

[swt class 450]

Many thanks for all the info. Can i ask how does SDO work on the London Underground? Is it all done automatically or does the driver have to manually select which coaches and doors to open and not open?

 

[Dstock7080]

Many thanks for all the info. Can i ask how does SDO work on the London Underground? Is it all done automatically or does the driver have to manually select which coaches and doors to open and not open?

On S Stock it is automatic.
D Stock is manual, can only keep first 2 and rear 2 closed.
C Stock it was manual, could only keep front 3 closed.

 

[philthetube]

Also automatic on 95 stock

 

[spinba11]

Was SOD ever used on the C stack?

 

[Dstock7080]

Was SOD ever used on the C stack?

Only in the event of a slight overrun at platforms. (or stopping short when crew-operated)

 

[i3lu]

I took a train last morning from King's Cross and I saw that sign and I was wondering at this thread.

 

[rebmcr]

I took a train last morning from King's Cross and I saw that sign and I was wondering at this thread.

There are no longer any A Stock trains in passenger service, so that sign is obsolete. The replacement trains calling at those stations do still have restrictions though, as detailed further up.

 

[philthetube]

Telling drivers to operate a switch in the cab to prevent the rear set of doors opening at the next two stations, with S stock drivers don't need to do anything to cut out doors, it happens automatically.

 

[i3lu]

I know very well that. I just posted because it was a discussion about C/D stock manually cutting doors and seems like it was same on A stock.

 

[pacenotes]

Gunnersbury southbound the front doors don't open on S stock. I think its to do with the gap between the train and platform as the platform is the other side of the door but they don't open the door.

 

[Dstock7080]

Gunnersbury southbound the front doors don't open on S stock. I think its to do with the gap between the train and platform as the platform is the other side of the door but they don't open the door.

That is mentioned in my list of 14 January.
Gunnersbury is either East or Westbound - but technically Up or Down

 

[swt class 450]

Out of interest i have always wondered why are there some short platform stations where the front doors (rather than the rear doors) do not open? I know normally (at least on National Rail services) it is only the rear door(s) that do not open but the front door(s) will always be opened on short platforms. Is there a reason for the front doors (rather than the rear doors) not opening at certain stations on London Underground (on S stock and on 1995 stock)?

 

[rebmcr]

Out of interest i have always wondered why are there some short platform stations where the front doors (rather than the rear doors) do not open? I know normally (at least on National Rail services) it is only the rear door(s) that do not open but the front door(s) will always be opened on short platforms. Is there a reason for the front doors (rather than the rear doors) not opening at certain stations on London Underground (on S stock and on 1995 stock)?

In short, signal spacing.