LNER Class 91/Mk4 service status/withdrawals/2021 refurbishment

[Ec91109]

I know the 1515/1745 lds to KX are going over to 225s as I've booked Tues 6th and a few others

That’s right.

 

[Dave91131]

Are any 91's planned to be in service to / from St. Neots this weekend?

Any info on planned services appreciated if any are scheduled.

Thanks.

 

[59CosG95]

Are any 91's planned to be in service to / from St. Neots this weekend?

Any info on planned services appreciated if any are scheduled.

Thanks.

Nope. No LNER service south of Peterborough.

 

[Dave91131]

Nope. No LNER service south of Peterborough.

Broadly speaking, RTT shows 2 LNER trains per hour terminating at / starting from St. Neots both days this weekend..

 

[43 302]

 

[43094]

Not true - some of the St Neots terminators are planned to be 91 - four on Saturday and two on Sunday

 

[HST43257]

have the new 91 york/leeds full diagrams been confirmed yet?

 

[43 302]

91109 will be working the Edinburgh tomorrow on S07 and E17. 009 was the first 91 to work a passenger train to Edinburgh so it seems fitting.

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Guess they are. Diagrams for tomorrow.

0945 Leeds - St Neots
1206 St Neots - Leeds
1415 Leeds - Retford
1526 Retford - Leeds
1645 Leeds - St Neots
1906 St Neots - Leeds

0440 York - Peterborough
0647 Peterborough - Leeds
0845 Leeds - St Neots
1106 St Neots - Leeds
1315 Leeds - Retford
1427 Retford - Leeds
1545 Leeds - St Neots
1806 St Neots - Leeds

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7/9/20: 91 to Edinburgh
91124 working S04 0708 PBO to EDB vice azuma and 1E14 1200 EDB to KGX return.

 

[WesternLancer]

91109 will be working the Edinburgh tomorrow on S07 and E17. 009 was the first 91 to work a passenger train to Edinburgh so it seems fitting.

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Guess they are. Diagrams for tomorrow.

0945 Leeds - St Neots
1206 St Neots - Leeds
1415 Leeds - Retford
1526 Retford - Leeds
1645 Leeds - St Neots
1906 St Neots - Leeds

0440 York - Peterborough
0647 Peterborough - Leeds
0845 Leeds - St Neots
1106 St Neots - Leeds
1315 Leeds - Retford
1427 Retford - Leeds
1545 Leeds - St Neots
1806 St Neots - Leeds

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7/9/20: 91 to Edinburgh
91124 working S04 0708 PBO to EDB vice azuma and 1E14 1200 EDB to KGX return.

That's interesting - the post merging has made this a bit confusing with the original references to 'tomorrow' (that being Saturday for the St Neots to from runs?) but more clearly the class 91 Edinburgh run being today 7th sept.

 

[43 302]

I agree the post merging is horrible. And yes, the st Neots were the other day.

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Can anyone comment on the plan to shorten the Mk4s to seven coaches? Keeps coming back up and I'm still not sure whether it's actually the plan

 

[Julia]

I assume LNER are turning some trains round at St Neots through lack of space at both Peterborough and Stevenage?

 

[Ianno87]

I assume LNER are turning some trains round at St Neots through lack of space at both Peterborough and Stevenage?

And is the most logical location for a Rail Replacement Bus to Bedford.

 

[59CosG95]

And is the most logical location for a Rail Replacement Bus to Bedford.

Indeed it is, bearing in mind the proximity of both stations to the A421 - the main dual carriageway linking the A1 to Bedford & the M1.

 

[Julia]

… except I couldn't see any RRBs scheduled, and the stoppers are still running through to St Pancras, which is surely a lot faster than via Bedford.

 

[Failed Unit]

Did a 91 make it to Edinburgh today - 0615 London Kings Cross - Edinburgh (which started at Peterborough this morning) and the 1200 Edinburgh - London KX. It is showing a 91 on RTT.

 

[Fuzzytop]

Did a 91 make it to Edinburgh today - 0615 London Kings Cross - Edinburgh (which started at Peterborough this morning) and the 1200 Edinburgh - London KX. It is showing a 91 on RTT.

Yep! 91124 made it to Edinburgh due to the problems at King's Cross this morning.

 

[Dave91131]

Did a 91 make it to Edinburgh today - 0615 London Kings Cross - Edinburgh (which started at Peterborough this morning) and the 1200 Edinburgh - London KX. It is showing a 91 on RTT.

91124 on 0440 YRK-KGX was terminated at PBO and formed 0615 KGX-EDB starting PBO.

It is now on 1200 EDB-KGX and will then presumably take up its booked working 1833 KGX-BDQ.

 

[43 302]

Did a 91 make it to Edinburgh today - 0615 London Kings Cross - Edinburgh (which started at Peterborough this morning) and the 1200 Edinburgh - London KX. It is showing a 91 on RTT.

It did indeed, I posted the gen this morning, but thanks to the new auto merge feature no one saw it

 

[Failed Unit]

Thanks - I was expecting a 91 back to Edinburgh at some point because of disruption. Just didn't expect it so quickly.

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It did indeed, I posted the gen this morning, but thanks to the new auto merge feature no one saw it

Guilty as charged, You even made it bold - sorry and thanks for the gen (even if it was missed)

 

[43 302]

Thanks - I was expecting a 91 back to Edinburgh at some point because of disruption. Just didn't expect it so quickly.

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Guilty as charged, You even made it bold - sorry and thanks for the gen (even if it was missed)

No problem at all, it's the automerge I'm annoyed with!

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8/9/20: Another 91 to Edinburgh, and once again no one will see the gen thanks to Automerge!

91109
1S08 0830 KGX to EDB
1E18 1400 EDB to KGX

Realtime Trains - 1S08 0830 London Kings Cross to Edinburgh

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains - 1E18 1400 Edinburgh to London Kings Cross

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[XCTurbostar]

Note the above new information..

 

[Failed Unit]

How long will these working keep cropping up - with respect to the crew knowledge.

I assume for a while if they have a spare 91 and mk4 set to set up they will use it. But I assume that crew knowledge will lapse in a few weeks / months as Edinburgh (and maybe Newcastle) will stop doing the refresher courses soon.

Will enjoy it while it lasts

 

[Ianno87]

… except I couldn't see any RRBs scheduled, and the stoppers are still running through to St Pancras, which is surely a lot faster than via Bedford.

Good point. Unless LNER are just using a 'one size fits all' standard timetable developed for when buses are required.

 

[WesternLancer]

No problem at all, it's the automerge I'm annoyed with!

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8/9/20: Another 91 to Edinburgh, and once again no one will see the gen thanks to Automerge!

91109
1S08 0830 KGX to EDB
1E18 1400 EDB to KGX

Realtime Trains - 1S08 0830 London Kings Cross to Edinburgh

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Realtime Trains - 1E18 1400 Edinburgh to London Kings Cross

Realtime Trains provides live realtime running information for the Great British railway network using open data.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

Yes, I didn't see it until tues morning even tho it looks like you posted it monday at 14.40hours.

 

[43094]

No further ones currently planned north of York as it stands - the run today was due to a fleet issue yesterday.

Some of the main factors to consider are:

. crew knowledge (lasts 6 months)
Depot knowledge (Craigentinny/Heaton, where applicable)
Reservation changes (especially at the moment)
Thunderbird provision of the worst happens.

 

[Dave91131]

As someone who is not exactly an expert with IT, could someone more in the know kindly explain in simple terms what this Automerge function / issue is?

Thanks in advance.

 

[WesternLancer]

As someone who is not exactly an expert with IT, could someone more in the know kindly explain in simple terms what this Automerge function / issue is?

Thanks in advance.

Post another comment fairly soon in this same thread (eg "testing automerge") and you will see (and look at your alert bell symbol on top line too)

It can be useful, but not been here

 

[DB]

As someone who is not exactly an expert with IT, could someone more in the know kindly explain in simple terms what this Automerge function / issue is?

Thanks in advance.

If yours is the most recent comment in the thread and you post another one, it automatically merges them. If you post a comment, then someone else does (or more than one person does), then you post another one, it doesn't happen.

Can work in many cases, but it would be helpful if there was an option 'do not auto-merge', as in some cases (e.g. someone posting daily allocations) it's actively unhelpful.

 

[Dave91131]

If yours is the most recent comment in the thread and you post another one, it automatically merges them. If you post a comment, then someone else does (or more than one person does), then you post another one, it doesn't happen.

Can work in many cases, but it would be helpful if there was an option 'do not auto-merge', as in some cases (e.g. someone posting daily allocations) it's actively unhelpful.

Thanks both.

 

[swt_passenger]

If yours is the most recent comment in the thread and you post another one, it automatically merges them. If you post a comment, then someone else does (or more than one person does), then you post another one, it doesn't happen.

Can work in many cases, but it would be helpful if there was an option 'do not auto-merge', as in some cases (e.g. someone posting daily allocations) it's actively unhelpful.

I would hope it could be put on a timer, say a couple of hours. I think it’s been switched off for a few years...