LNER Class 91/Mk4 service status/withdrawals/2021 refurbishment

[DanNCL]

Last Saturday of multiple 91 workings north of York today. full allocations are as follows (with thanks to the Class 91 group on Facebook for the allocations)

91109:
1A04 06:05 Leeds - London
1N81 09:06 London - York
1Y84 12:02 York - London
1N87 15:06 London - York
1Y90 18:03 York - London

91111:
1D02 06:33 London - Leeds
1A19 09:15 Leeds - London
1D14 12:35 London - Leeds
1A37 15:15 Leeds - London
1D26 18:03 London - Leeds
5Y15 21:05 Leeds - York via Doncaster

91114:
1E12 11:00 Edinburgh - London
1S25 16:30 London - Edinburgh

91124:
1S13 11:00 London - Edinburgh
1E23 16:30 Edinburgh - London

91127:
1Y00 04:40 York - London
1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh
1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London
1D28 18:33 London - Bradford

From Monday the only booked 91 workings north of York will be 1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh and 1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London, everything else north of York operated by LNER will be Azuma operated.

 

[43 302]

91119 is also doing a test run light loco, 0Z91 0930 ex Bounds Green. Blunt end leading for half presumably.

 

[47827]

Sounds like this is a move to remove the scheduled stabling of mk4 sets overnight at Craigentinny. With it there will be the gradual demise of loco/mk4 set knowledge away from Leeds and King's Cross etc, with depots such as Newcastle and Edinburgh having little or no booked work. It's fine until you need to swap sets or do a vice turn to Newcastle or Scotland.

 

[route101]

Last Saturday of multiple 91 workings north of York today. full allocations are as follows (with thanks to the Class 91 group on Facebook for the allocations)

91109:
1A04 06:05 Leeds - London
1N81 09:06 London - York
1Y84 12:02 York - London
1N87 15:06 London - York
1Y90 18:03 York - London

91111:
1D02 06:33 London - Leeds
1A19 09:15 Leeds - London
1D14 12:35 London - Leeds
1A37 15:15 Leeds - London
1D26 18:03 London - Leeds
5Y15 21:05 Leeds - York via Doncaster

91114:
1E12 11:00 Edinburgh - London
1S25 16:30 London - Edinburgh

91124:
1S13 11:00 London - Edinburgh
1E23 16:30 Edinburgh - London

91127:
1Y00 04:40 York - London
1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh
1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London
1D28 18:33 London - Bradford

From Monday the only booked 91 workings north of York will be 1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh and 1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London, everything else north of York operated by LNER will be Azuma operated.

Took the 1330 yesterday from Edinburgh , likely my last LNER 91 ride.

 

[Peter Mugridge]

I can confirm that 91 111 is on diagram still; it's sitting in platform 6 at Leeds at the moment.

 

[43 302]

Took the 1330 yesterday from Edinburgh , likely my last LNER 91 ride.

They're around til 2023 remember. May be your last north of York though.

 

[route101]

They're around til 2023 remember. May be your last north of York though.

Unless i do Leeds to Doncaster , never say never.

 

[43 302]

91111 + BN26 + 82223
1Y14 0800 York - Kings Cross
1D11 1103 Kings Cross - Leeds
1A34 1405 Leeds - Kings Cross
1D23 1705 Kings Cross - Leeds
1A52 2045 Leeds - Kings Cross
5Y52 0123 Kings Cross - Bounds Green

91111 last day in traffic for the foreseeable future.

 

[lx12ddo]

Spotted 91121 and 82221 (on separate train sets) at the Bounds Green depot, the latter peaking out from the shed.

 

[WesternLancer]

Last Saturday of multiple 91 workings north of York today. full allocations are as follows (with thanks to the Class 91 group on Facebook for the allocations)

91109:
1A04 06:05 Leeds - London
1N81 09:06 London - York
1Y84 12:02 York - London
1N87 15:06 London - York
1Y90 18:03 York - London

91111:
1D02 06:33 London - Leeds
1A19 09:15 Leeds - London
1D14 12:35 London - Leeds
1A37 15:15 Leeds - London
1D26 18:03 London - Leeds
5Y15 21:05 Leeds - York via Doncaster

91114:
1E12 11:00 Edinburgh - London
1S25 16:30 London - Edinburgh

91124:
1S13 11:00 London - Edinburgh
1E23 16:30 Edinburgh - London

91127:
1Y00 04:40 York - London
1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh
1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London
1D28 18:33 London - Bradford

From Monday the only booked 91 workings north of York will be 1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh and 1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London, everything else north of York operated by LNER will be Azuma operated.

Does this

"From Monday the only booked 91 workings north of York will be 1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh and 1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London, everything else north of York operated by LNER will be Azuma operated. "

therefore mean only those 2 trains are Class 91 & Mk4 monday to friday, or do they also run on Saturdays? Also how long is that expected to continue for?

 

[43 302]

Spotted 91121 and 82221 (on separate train sets) at the Bounds Green depot, the latter peaking out from the shed.

91127 is at Bounds Green, 91121 is withdrawn.

 

[Dave91131]

Spotted 91121 and 82221 (on separate train sets) at the Bounds Green depot, the latter peaking out from the shed.

I don't think you saw 82221 - this was withdrawn and scrapped following the Great Heck accident almost 20 years ago.

 

[DB]

I don't think you saw 82221 - this was withdrawn and scrapped following the Great Heck accident almost 20 years ago.

It was pretty much destroyed - there was a photo of the remains in the accident report, and it wasn't even recognisable as a DVT.

 

[DanNCL]

Does this

"From Monday the only booked 91 workings north of York will be 1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh and 1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London, everything else north of York operated by LNER will be Azuma operated. "

therefore mean only those 2 trains are Class 91 & Mk4 monday to friday, or do they also run on Saturdays? Also how long is that expected to continue for?

If I recall correctly, the current diagrams last until 4th September. I'm not sure if these diagrams also apply on Saturdays of if they're only for weekdays.

 

[WesternLancer]

If I recall correctly, the current diagrams last until 4th September. I'm not sure if these diagrams also apply on Saturdays of if they're only for weekdays.

Thanks - maybe others know and will post (or note observations on sats)

 

[yorkie]

I've created a thread for people to discuss trips on LNER Class 91s (either for people to plan future trips or report back on trips they have made) here:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/trips-on-lner-class-91s.207639/

I also split posts discussing the idea for re-liveried Azumas to:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...ets-re-liveried-with-special-liveries.207640/

For diagrams, please use:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/remaining-lner-class-91-services.177004/

 

[LRV3004]

I've created a thread for people to discuss trips on LNER Class 91s (either for people to plan future trips or report back on trips they have made) here:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/trips-on-lner-class-91s.207639/

I also split posts discussing the idea for re-liveried Azumas to:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/thread...ets-re-liveried-with-special-liveries.207640/

For diagrams, please use:
https://www.railforums.co.uk/threads/remaining-lner-class-91-services.177004/

Sweet - thank you kindly!

 

[4REP]

Spotted 91121 and 82221 (on separate train sets) at the Bounds Green depot, the latter peaking out from the shed.

82221 were destroyed in the great heck crash Feb 2001!

 

[55002]

Just seen on twitter that Sept 4th last 91 to Edinburgh on 0800 from KGX returning on 1330 from EDB. Says this Saturday is last chance to see 2 91s side by side at EDB when 0800 & 0830 from KGX are in at same time befire returning at 1330 and 1400.

 

[WesternLancer]

Just seen on twitter that Sept 4th last 91 to Edinburgh on 0800 from KGX returning on 1330 from EDB. Says this Saturday is last chance to see 2 91s side by side at EDB when 0800 & 0830 from KGX are in at same time befire returning at 1330 and 1400.

Helpful info. What is the situation with walk up tickets and seat reservations for LNER at the moment?

 

[Ianno87]

Helpful info. What is the situation with walk up tickets and seat reservations for LNER at the moment?

All passengers need seat reservations.

 

[WesternLancer]

All passengers need seat reservations.

So if the booking engine shows Std Class as 'full up' I take it that means the allocation of reservable seats is used and they dont want anyone else on board? Even though every liklihood of no shows of course.

How does weekend 1st work at the moment?

 

[55002]

So if the booking engine shows Std Class as 'full up' I take it that means the allocation of reservable seats is used and they dont want anyone else on board? Even though every liklihood of no shows of course.

How does weekend 1st work at the moment?

bear in mind the info came from a tweet, Before you book seats, not cast iron from LNER. Mind you it was Pip Dunn who is usually in the know.

 

[WesternLancer]

bear in mind the info came from a tweet, Before you book seats, not cast iron from LNER. Mind you it was Pip Dunn who is usually in the know.

Thanks - yes, which of course is why walk up is important / useful. Tho we live in extraordinary times and that has to be considered.

 

[55002]

Thanks - yes, which of course is why walk up is important / useful. Tho we live in extraordinary times and that has to be considered.

true

 

[Fuzzytop]

This info has also been widely shared on a Facebook group for fans of the 91s. Anecdotally this appears to be run largely by those 'in the know', so I imagine these are indeed the plans as things stand. The end of an era.

 

[Mollman]

This info has also been widely shared on a Facebook group for fans of the 91s. Anecdotally this appears to be run largely by those 'in the know', so I imagine these are indeed the plans as things stand. The end of an era.

What info? Thanks

 

[Fuzzytop]

What info? Thanks

Ah, sorry - that two 91/MkIV sets are scheduled to operate consecutive services from King's Cross to Edinburgh and back this coming Saturday, with the last planned use of a 91/MkIV set on the King's Cross - Edinburgh route on Friday 4 September.

 

[Mollman]

Ah, sorry - that two 91/MkIV sets are scheduled to operate consecutive services from King's Cross to Edinburgh and back this coming Saturday, with the last planned use of a 91/MkIV set on the King's Cross - Edinburgh route on Friday 4 September.

Great, thanks

 

[WesternLancer]

Last Saturday of multiple 91 workings north of York today. full allocations are as follows (with thanks to the Class 91 group on Facebook for the allocations)

91109:
1A04 06:05 Leeds - London
1N81 09:06 London - York
1Y84 12:02 York - London
1N87 15:06 London - York
1Y90 18:03 York - London

91111:
1D02 06:33 London - Leeds
1A19 09:15 Leeds - London
1D14 12:35 London - Leeds
1A37 15:15 Leeds - London
1D26 18:03 London - Leeds
5Y15 21:05 Leeds - York via Doncaster

91114:
1E12 11:00 Edinburgh - London
1S25 16:30 London - Edinburgh

91124:
1S13 11:00 London - Edinburgh
1E23 16:30 Edinburgh - London

91127:
1Y00 04:40 York - London
1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh
1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London
1D28 18:33 London - Bradford

From Monday the only booked 91 workings north of York will be 1S07 08:00 London - Edinburgh and 1E17 13:30 Edinburgh - London, everything else north of York operated by LNER will be Azuma operated.

With ref to info about next week being last Class 91s through to Edinburgh does anyone have an up to date list of Class 91 ECML diagrams like this previous helpful post for the week ahead.

I assume on the weekdays there is the one service each way to Edinburgh as mentioned above (post #1069) but assume some 91s on Leeds / York services too?

(apols if this should be in diagrams thread but with diagrams mentioned above I've posted it here - happy to see this moved if appropriate)