London Bits 15/06

[RJ]

I had a day out today testing out my new camera, and didn't want to use auto mode. However, it looks like I have made some mistakes, so comments would be appreciated on how I can choose better settings. The sun kept being obscured by clouds at the last possible second in the case of the unit picture and the tamper particularly

Anyway, shots of;

60022, 60024 and 90027 at Stratford
47816, 92031 and 37603 at Kensington

Shots @ http://rjhamilton.fotopic.net/c1303281.html

 

[devon_metro]

Use auto until you get the hang of things. What camera out of intertest?

 

[RJ]

Fuji FinePix S6500fd. I did my research and know the results its capable of, its just a case of me learning how it handles different weather conditions. I used the shutter priority mode yesterday for the convoy pic, but not best pleased with the camera's choice to leave the aperture wide open .

 

[class 313]

Fuji FinePix S6500fd. I did my research and know the results its capable of, its just a case of me learning how it handles different weather conditions. I used the shutter priority mode yesterday for the convoy pic, but not best pleased with the camera's choice to leave the aperture wide open .

I can tell you something, the results arnt much if at all better than all the previous cameras! Although you have done better with the manual stuff this time.

 

[RJ]

I have admitted the results aren't great already, have you got any comments which are actually constructive?

 

[thefab444]

I've found having a fiddle with the Metering (I think) settings helped a lot in making the light meter more accurate so less under exposure.

Shutter Priority mode is useless I found, try Aperture Priority - or just full Manual.

 

[RJ]

I agree, must find the trade off between a good depth of field and a wide enough aperture to get enough light into the pictures.

 

[richa2002]

Shutter priority isn't useless at all, at least you know what shutter speed you're getting...

 

[matt]

I normally use shutter priority on my s5600

 

[devon_metro]

I use the Shutter priority too, then I am able to set the ISO. My first outing with this cam brought back some very high ISO shots.

 

[5872]

Ramel your shots arent bad but is it me or is everyone getting the fuji S6500fd all of a sudden?:roll::???:

Fred

 

[Julian G]

I have admitted the results aren't great already, have you got any comments which are actually constructive?

When it's sunny, your camera does well http://rjhamilton.fotopic.net/p42300150.html

 

[devon_metro]

Looks a tad under-exposed. Although a camera like this is easier to use once you get used to it.

 

[PeterH]

Your photos look ok to me . Maybe a bit dark but no camera can control the weather or Clouds .Try over exposing by +1.2 a stop or with Photoshop elements you could boost the shadows a bit if you just have dark skys you could put a new sky over the dark one ive done that a few times ..lol

 

[JonG]

I have one of the predecessors to the S6500fd, the S7000, which I usually use in either full manual or aperture priority mode, its not often I get the exposure significantly wrong on a shot, but if I do, I can usually correct it in Photoshop Elements 5 relatively easily.

 

[CraigS]

I use my Fuji S5600 on Shutter priority most of the time.

Nice shots, I really like this one http://rjhamilton.fotopic.net/p42300152.html

 

[class 313]

I use my Fuji S5600 on Shutter priority most of the time.

Nice shots, I really like this one http://rjhamilton.fotopic.net/p42300152.html

Tis a shame Ramel cut 3/4 of the train off...

 

[CraigS]

Tis a shame Ramel cut 3/4 of the train off...

Would've been better on platform 10. Still is a good shot.

 

[class 313]

Would've been better on platform 10. Still is a good shot.

Nah, the platform was right, as he used the sun to his advantage but still, dont cut off the train with the camera. Let the objects around it to cut it off if there is any...

 

[devon_metro]

Although sometimes its nice to see something different. Not every photo has to fit the same criteria and I can't imagine the stuff behind the 60 was very photogenic.

 

[RJ]

I was on that platform to get my shot of 90027, ended up chatting with some people there and before long we see the thing sitting in platform 10 waiting for the peg, couldn't even see the self discharging wagons for all the clutter on that platform.. Next time this train runs (its a fridays only, if required, booked for a shed working), I'll find a better place to phot it .

 

[class 313]

Although sometimes its nice to see something different. Not every photo has to fit the same criteria and I can't imagine the stuff behind the 60 was very photogenic.

Still, let the objects show you cant see all the train. The camera cutting it looks awful IMO

 

[Tom]

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i256/Class313_2006/London May 31 07/DSCF1288.jpg

The train is cut off.

 

[RJ]

I took the first and last picture with Auto mode today. It came out very overexposed and depth of field was far from desirable. It was only a pair of Turbos mind.

 

[PeterH]

Hi RJ i looked at that photo yes its dark and the weather looks bad i cant see any thing wrong with it ive got loads of holiday photos with sky like that i dont think we have sunshine here in UK any more dont keep nocking your self there ok id be happy with them

 

[Dennis]

I find auto mode on my Fuji 9500 often gives hopelessly overexposed images and tend not to use it.

There is always a compromise to be reached between shutter speed and aperture. Smaller apertures (higher f numbers) will give greater depth of field but at the expense of longer exposure times (giving problems with motion blur).

Use of zoom has the effect of reducing the aperture on the amount of light hitting the detector so longer exposure times or wider apertures will tend to be needed.

Also, for the best signal to noise ratio from the detector, which is required to minimise speckling, ideally the maximum possible amount of light needs to hit the detector, i.e. longer exposures and wider apertures - exactly the opposite of the requirements for imaging a moving object and it is for this reason that the very best results will only be obtained in good lighting conditions.

Obviously, with practice, better results will be obtained when using manual control (whether full manual, aperture or shutter priority). I would also suggest critically studying photos, referring to the EXIF data and learning from the mistakes made.

 

[PeterH]

Or Failing all what Dennis said get a faster lens like a 1.4

 

[RJ]

Thanks for all the comments. I've realised that to get a sharp image all over, it is necessary to be quite far from the subject, as using more zoom overcomes the problem. In the case of the dark stars, I wanted to maintain the depth of field because they were quite far away, but the lighting would not permit this without a longer shutter speed. Its not always possible or even necessary to have such a depth of field, so its a case of adapting to each individual situation I don't have a SLR Peter, I have a normal digital camera

 

[class 313]

Thanks for all the comments. I've realised that to get a sharp image all over, it is necessary to be quite far from the subject, as using more zoom overcomes the problem. In the case of the dark stars, I wanted to maintain the depth of field because they were quite far away, but the lighting would not permit this without a longer shutter speed. Its not always possible or even necessary to have such a depth of field, so its a case of adapting to each individual situation I don't have a SLR Peter, I have a normal digital camera

I find less zoom = a sharper photo.

 

[devon_metro]

I don't. I find as there is so much scenery in Devon )) the camera decides to focus on something else and sometimes the whole image is not sharp and as long as you can hold the camera steady zoomed stuff seems sharper.