London to Munich by train - Eurostar connection/what to do if delayed.

[afc75]

Hi. I am looking at booking a ticket from London to Munich.

Itenirary is 9.01 london to brussels. Arrive 12.05. Eurostar

12.25 Brussels to Frankfurt . Arrive 15.31. ICE

15.53 Franfurt to Munich. Arrive 19.07.
ICE.

I notice i'm being sold 2 separate tickets. What are my rights/options if the Eurostar is delayed and i miss 12.25?

Similarly on my return journey, what are my rights if the ICE/DB legs are delayed? I have 66 minutes for return connection at Brussels.

 

[YorkshireBear]

My recommendation would be to instead get a through Eurostar ticket to cologne on the 13:25 to cologne and pick up a Munich ICE from there.

Also I would personally want more than 66 minute connection at Brussels but that is just me having been bitten twice by the ICE services to Brussels.

 

[stuu]

My recommendation would be to instead get a through Eurostar ticket to cologne on the 13:25 to cologne and pick up a Munich ICE from there.

Also I would personally want more than 66 minute connection at Brussels but that is just me having been bitten twice by the ICE services to Brussels.

I'm doing this in a few months, I have a similar connection in Brussels. From everything I have read online, it seems the Eurostar (from London) is reliable but the ICE isn't. So why would you want a deliberately longer connection in Brussels? Either 20 minutes there is fine, or you end up waiting anyway? What am I missing?

Ignore, not enough caffeine to read properly

 

[afc75]

I'm doing this in a few months, I have a similar connection in Brussels. From everything I have read online, it seems the Eurostar (from London) is reliable but the ICE isn't. So why would you want a deliberately longer connection in Brussels? Either 20 minutes there is fine, or you end up waiting anyway? What am I missing?

TBH, 20 min connection on way out, 66 min on way back (have 2 do passport/security).

I'm OK with both, just asking re my rights/options with my tickets if delayed.

 

[stuu]

TBH, 20 min connection on way out, 66 min on way back (have 2 do passport/security).

I'm OK with both, just asking re my rights/options with my tickets if delayed.

Oh yes, I clearly misread the first message and the response. D'oh

 

[Gaelan]

I believe you’ll be covered by HOTNAT; in the event if any disruption, ask the Brussels ticket office to stamp your ticket to make it valid on the next train.

 

[afc75]

I believe you’ll be covered by HOTNAT; in the event if any disruption, ask the Brussels ticket office to stamp your ticket to make it valid on the next train.

Thanks, that is what i was looking for.

Much difference between 1st and 2nd class on ICE? Thinking of paying the extra.

My recommendation would be to instead get a through Eurostar ticket to cologne on the 13:25 to cologne and pick up a Munich ICE from there.

Also I would personally want more than 66 minute connection at Brussels but that is just me having been bitten twice by the ICE services to Brussels.

I have looked into Cologne option.

When you had your issues missing the connection, how much hassle (or cost) did you have resolving?

 

[Planesandtrain]

I would work out if an Interrail Pass is more cost effective, it certainly is for me when heading towards the UK and I want to do an additional trip on the NR network.

 

[YorkshireBear]

Thanks, that is what i was looking for.

Much difference between 1st and 2nd class on ICE? Thinking of paying the extra.


I have looked into Cologne option.

When you had your issues missing the connection, how much hassle (or cost) did you have resolving?

HOTNAT did not get entertained when I had an issue. But it was during mass strike action.

I did get a refund for tickets I bought for Eurostar minus about £10. I have always since just been more wary at Brussels as it takes stress out of the trip for me personally.

 

[mtmikethom]

Don’t know about other ticket sellers but when purchasing from DB it states that the whole journey is a single contract (even though they are separate tickets)

 

[afc75]

Don’t know about other ticket sellers but when purchasing from DB it states that the whole journey is a single contract (even though they are separate tickets)

Thanks.

I have now booked direct with DB, seems to state 2 separate contracts (Eurostar & DB). But a lot cheaper than my other options, so hope all works.

I'll update thread if i do have any issues (travelling 16th April, return 18th).

Each ticket for a train journey documents a single contract of carriage, several tickets document separate contracts of carriage. On a long-distance ticket outward and return journeys are separate contracts of carriage. If the ticket also entitles you to use other modes of transport beside the train (bus, underground, tram, etc.), a separate contract of carriage is concluded with each carrier of a corresponding mode of transport.

 

[mtmikethom]

Thanks.

I have now booked direct with DB, seems to state 2 separate contracts (Eurostar & DB). But a lot cheaper than my other options, so hope all works.

I'll update thread if i do have any issues (travelling 16th April, return 18th).

Each ticket for a train journey documents a single contract of carriage, several tickets document separate contracts of carriage. On a long-distance ticket outward and return journeys are separate contracts of carriage. If the ticket also entitles you to use other modes of transport beside the train (bus, underground, tram, etc.), a separate contract of carriage is concluded with each carrier of a corresponding mode of transport.

Haven’t seen that on the DB site, last time I booked it said this and just looking it still does?

 

[rvdborgt]

Haven’t seen that on the DB site, last time I booked it said this and just looking it still does?

If you book from London to Germany, you are transferred to a separate DB website and it warns you that you'll receive separate contracts.

 

[afc75]

If you book from London to Germany, you are transferred to a separate DB website and it warns you that you'll receive separate contracts.

But still covered by HOTNAT?

 

[rvdborgt]

But still covered by HOTNAT?

Sure.

 

[CdBrux]

I believe you’ll be covered by HOTNAT; in the event if any disruption, ask the Brussels ticket office to stamp your ticket to make it valid on the next train.

What's HOTNAT?

 

[Gaelan]

What's HOTNAT?

“Hop on the Next Available Train”, an agreement among the operators in the “Railteam” alliance. Broadly, when connecting between high-speed trains of participating operators, at certain stations, you can go to the ticket office and get a stamp that allows you to take the next train. It’s less than the bare minimum but it’s good it exists.