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coupwotcoup

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Just read on here about someone who had an horrendous experience trying to get to Doncaster and wondered what are the worst experiences that people have had regarding delays?
Personally, I have a had a few of around two hours, but the worst was about six years ago.
Returning from Paris on Eurostar, we stopped just outside Ashford and because of a trackside fire (alternative route not an opption because of tunnel repairs) and our ETA at Waterloo was around 8pm.
Eventually pulled in at 4.30am the next day. Fair play to them though as they laid on Taxis for everyone and this amounted to at least half a dozen trains that pulled in within an hour of each other.
 
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I'm a regular rail travelling and I can honestly say in all the time I've been travelling the only horrendous delay has been in the early 90s when someone fell out of the HST in front through getting drunk after a football match. That was around 2 hours.
 

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Edinburgh - Newcastle (90 min journey) delayed (en route) by a further 3hrs due to OHLE issues.
 

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My longest delay was recently due to the Network rail stuff in Rugby and liverpool Street.

Was meant to get into London Euston at 2150, takes around 20 mins to get to Tottenham, then 10 mins to Enfield Lock.

Arrived into Euston as 00:15, (remember on the RR coach to Northampton seeing the clock hit 2222...), got into a taxi at 00:30, arrived at Enfield Lock in the taxi at 01:35.
 

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Take your pick of long-distance trains post-Hatfield would be a good bet? I left MK on the 0833 Euston-Glasgow and arrived Glasgow Central after 1900...Did have a 40 minute wait at Carlisle for the Royal Scot as they turned ours round though, both were 87s that day :grin:

Seen a few mega mega delays on VXC as well.
 

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GQS-ABD. Delayed 20 minutes "due to a points filure in the Carmuis Area". We get on, it leaves 25 minutes late. Due to the problems, we reverse int he Falkirk area to make additional stops at Falkirk stations due to an earlier cancellation. We wait and wait and wait before reversing and then... another failure. Now diverted via the Forth Bridge and Ladybank. Passengers change at Perth for Stirling and Dunblane. Arrive Perth 70 minutes late (stuck behind another, slower train past the bridge). Depart Perth 90 minutes late; they couldn't find a new crew. Delayed arrival into Dundee as the HST came off the Tay Bridge. 100 minutes late from Aberdeen, and making addition stops en route due to further ancellatoins and delays.

Arrival Aberdeen (due to a firhter signalling problem) 2h 30 late. Missed my appointment too :(
 

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On the trains there was once a delay of more than an hour in snow and ice because the P-Way disconnected the wrong point heaters-it was the next junction up that was going to be renovated. Also been delays of 4hrs due to heavy rain and flooding, but we were sat in the main station so people could still get on and off.

But my personal worst delay would be driving a car several years ago when the police closed the M61 (i kid you not here) 2 cars after we`d joined. It was like a 3 lane car park and to see in my mirror the sliproad get closed due to snow and hear on the radio that the motorway was now shut. All told a delay of around 13hrs.
 

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My worst was Coventry to Cambridge, due to depart Coventry 06:15 train canceled bus to Nuneaton connection missed so now 60 mins down.

Vandels on the track between Nuneaton and Leicester further 30 minute delay, then a window was hit by a missle on the approach to Leicester and we required fitters to remove the window at Leicester, departed Leicester 65 mins late, failed track circuit failure at Oakham now 85 minutes down, and the train was terminated at Peterborough so off I get wait 10 mins for the one that is now just behind us, by now its taken me 4 1/2 hours to do what should have taken 2h 05 mins, just as you think it cant get any worse motor bike abandoned on the track near March further 60 min delay whilst the track was cleared and BTP looked for the suspects, they we sit and sit in Ely station and there has been a broken rail at Waterbeach, busses for those travelling beyond Cambridge to Standsted train terminated, after a further 95 mins I got on a WAGN class 365 to Cambridge travelling wrong line all the way to Waterbeach at low speed and eventually into Cambridge 8H 08 mins after departure for a journey that should have taken me 3H 06 mins, and what compensation did I get 10 measly pounds in Central Trains Vouchers
 

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I've had 4 delays of 2 hours (suprisingly, all exactly 2 hours, give or take a few minutes). One was because someone threw themselves under 87019 as it went through Prestbury (between Macclefield and Stockport) at about 100mph, and it happened to be hauling the VWC train I was on at the time (annoyingly I wasn't supposed to be on it, I should have been on the previous VXC, but the Central train I'd caught to Stoke had been delayed and we were held at the junction whilst it went past, then outside the station whilst it left). Took about 1 1/2 hours to get the line open, then we had to wait for a relief driver to arrive on a southbound VXC before we could go, so arrived at Manchester near enough 2 hours late.
Another was a very embarassing trip to Skegness with a friend of my mum and her children who didn't normally take the train. We arrived at Nottingham to find a 156 on P1 showing Skegness, and shortly after another 156 coupled behind. It then got to a fair way past departure and the doors were still shut. Eventually, a 158 came in behind (coming from Crewe) and also coupled on and we were allowed to board, and left about 10mins down. Performance seemed decidedly sluggish though, and I was soon wondering how much more delayed we'd be on arrival if this kept up. We made our first stop at Netherfield, about a mile from Nottingham, which I was fairly sure wasn't booked, the fact that the 6 car train was longer than the platforms being a bit of a givaway. Almost straight away the driver got out of the cab and walked back along the train, and eventually there was an announcement that there was a technical fault. After some time I decided to have a walk and try and find out, and discovered that the brakes on the 158 had been dragging since Nottingham, apparently the second time this had happened to this driver. At least they had opened some doors further back so we could get out. They tried uncoupling and recoupling the 158 a few times with no success, and now about an hour down a fitter was called. They took nearly half an hour to arrive, and again tried uncoupling and coupling. After about 2 hours, the passengers from the 158 were moved into the 156s and we carried on. On route we passed a single 150, "could be worse" I though. On arrival back at Skegness for the return journey, the 150 pulled in, left packed solid, with quite a few unable to board and more put on buses for stations to Boston. Not suprisingly the family we took have not been by train since.
Next time was once again a Central 158, this time the engine on the back car pretty much blew up between Stamford and Oakham. Eventually we limped to Oakham arriving about half an hour down, with a trail of oil and diesel along the track, and various wires hanging from the underside. At least we could get off though, since the 158 already had no air conditioning, and it was a hot day in July. The driver proceeded to tie up all the loose wires and pipes and place a red flag on the rear (since the battery had been isolated) and explained that he would shunt to the loops just outside the station, and the following train would pick us up. Great plan, only it took control over an hour to authorise this, so when they finally left and the next train arrived to pick us up, it was itself running an hour late, and also quite busy, and full of disgruntled passengers who had had to wait for an hour outside the station (in some ways we were lucky). At least the crew were great though, taking all our details to deal with compensation claims, keeping us informed, moaning about control, and finally leaving with the words "right, as we've been planning for the last hour, we'll take this heap of junk into the sidings and the next train will pick you up. As you go flying past us you can either give us a wave, or two finger, which ever takes your fancy, and hopefully we'll be able to limp back to the depot eventually". Naturally, they got a big wave as we went past.
Most recent was again a Central 158, but this time not actually their fault, since there was a gas leak in New North Tunnel, so I ended up sitting for over an hour outside the station waiting for the line to re-open. Of cource, onward trains were also messed up, so the next Cardiff did not leave for some time, and by that time the next one (2 hours after the one I was due on) was about due, so I got that, which was nice since with the previous train only about 10mins infront, it was pretty quiet. As the previous delay, the guard came around as we waited to get into the station and took our details for compensation.
Only other significant delays I've had have both involved travelling from Ipswich to Yarmouth, firstly caused by a 86 failing and requiring Thunderbirding, and more recently by some idiots dropping something on top of a 90, damaging the pantograph and also the OHLE. Both ended up well over an hour, although the former would have been 2 hours had Anglia not held the Yarmouth train at Norwich. The second time I didn't get to Yarmouth since the train was supposed to be the direct loco hauled service (it's first day of operation) but it was terminated at Norwich due to the delay, and the 47 having been used to rescue the "failed" set, and I wasn't going to Yarmouth and back on a unit just for the sake of it (and I'd already had good use out of my Rover).
Luckely, I managed to get compensation for all but the first and the last, since the first was a fatality, which is never paid out on, although were it to happen now I'd go to Central and try and get something from them instead since was it not for their initial delay I'd have been on the train infront and well on my way to Manchester by the time it happened.
 

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But my personal worst delay would be driving a car several years ago when the police closed the M61 (i kid you not here) 2 cars after we`d joined. It was like a 3 lane car park and to see in my mirror the sliproad get closed due to snow and hear on the radio that the motorway was now shut. All told a delay of around 13hrs.
I hope you weren't carrying any passengers. If you were, they'd all demand:-
* a refund on any money they paid you e.g. toward petrol etc.
* a free trip to anywhere they wanted on a date of their choice which you'd have to drive them to
* compensation in travel vouchers
* a taxi home or a hotel for the night, paid for by you
:lol:
 

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Hmm, I ve had two horrendous delays on London to Scotland Sleepers once Northbound on the Lowland Sleeper when The steward woke me in a Loop in the lakedistrict at 7am to tell me we'd suffered 3 loco failures in the night and were now trapped by Engineering work. Eventual arrival was 5 hours late.
Once Southbound on the Fort Bill Sleeper where we suffered a loco failure near Crianlarich and the thunderbird loco then caught fire near garelockhead. The train eventually was terminated at Glasgow Queen St at about 8 am and I was flown by scotrail down to Gatwick Airport on British Airways.
Most of my misery was in BR days in the South west when I was regularly travelling down to Plymouth.
My longest taxi ride was from Romsey to Plymouth after the then almost new 158 ran out of fuel just outside Romsey station. Eventually a 159 from Salisbury rescued us. I then had a 2 hour wait on a Sunday night before a Southampton Cab took four of us to Plymouth Dockyard. I think there was a convoy of about 10 taxis as most of the drivers didnt know the way to Plymouth.
Class 50s on the Waterloo to Exeter Line were a major source of delays and it was not unknown for arrivals to be 2 to 3 hours late in to Exeter after a loco failure in a single line section.
Lastly was stuck with several other sailors on a sunday night on a HST just outside of Dawlish after the line was washed away. After about 3 hours the buffet ran out of beer so we climbed out and in the pouring rain with kitbags walked alongside the track to a pub in Dawlish where we stayed for another 2 hours. At closing time the Landlord drove us to Plymouth in his Van.

Dont let people kid you how wonderful BR was! When things went wrong which in the South-west they all to often did in the early nineties it was awfull
 

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Hmm, I ve had two horrendous delays on London to Scotland Sleepers once Northbound on the Lowland Sleeper when The steward woke me in a Loop in the lakedistrict at 7am to tell me we'd suffered 3 loco failures in the night and were now trapped by Engineering work. Eventual arrival was 5 hours late.
One thing that does annoy me is that they wake you up at the "normal" time despite knowing full well you are nowhere near your destination and it could be hours before you get there. If they let people get a good nights sleep it would be better all round surely. Those who really wanted to be up early could set an alarm of their own anyway.
 

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Yes....But delayed people may want to phone contacts etc to say they will be late.
 

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I remember on a Virgin Voyager a few years back, going down south from Manchester. We were routed via Crewe, and the winds were awful - We proceeded out okay, however it became obvious during the journey that the winds were getting worse. We'd stop occasionally, and then when we pulled into Crewe, assengers joining the train were insistent that this was the Manchester train... Oh Dear. After a while of speculating, the train manager finally announced that the train would be unable to proceed south due to the winds. (I'm personally unsure exactly why, but I'm sure someone with operational knowledge will point it out. ;) ) So fair enough, that wouldn't have too much impact on our journey; find an alternate route, etc. After a considerable wait in Crewe, we finally heard the Beep, Beep-Beep of the Driver-Guard buzzer and after the right away, we were off. Then, at Goostrey there was a prompt brake application. There was a tree on the line. All we could do was wait until Network Rail cleared the line, checked the OLE etc...
We arrived back in Manchester later than we were supposed to arrive at our destination.

Mind you, another terrible journey was on a Pendo, Stockport to Macclesfield. It decided that it was going to drop the pantograph when we were travelling at quite a considerable speed. The driver tried both pantographs, but to no avail. After about three quarters of an hour, the decision was made to fail the unit and call a rescue locomotive. Surely Virgin would send out one of their 57s, the ones that are equipped with dellners and the like? No. A shed rolls past us wrong direction. They attatch it. It won't work because of a brake problem. The traincrew just walk away with no announcements when the Network Rail guys turn up. Then, again with no announcements, police cars roll up, along with a police motorbike. Then a nice man enters the carriage from the BTP, telling us we've all got to leave the train via the exterior doors onto the permanent way. Buses were provided for onward transport.

Grumbles,

Jon
 

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Liverpool to London during a bank holiday weekend last May.

Engineering work everywhere except our route =]

Until 36 hours before departure....

Ended up in Liverpool SP - London (KgX ??) via Warrington Cntl, Manc Pic, Sheffield, Meadowhall, Doncaster AND Peterbro. Journey time: just under 7 hours
 

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Technically a cancellation, not a delay- but from my point of view it was the latter. Travelling Poole-Stirling. With a bike. Had a reservation. Was a one-way journey, and of a summer job down that way. Got to Bournemouth to get the Voyager to Edinburgh. Except- emergency engineering possesion. Nightmare scenario- rail replacement coach to Southampton!

After pretty much getting down on my knees and begging, the coach driver did agree to carry my bike- think he might even have found a couple of straps. Thakfully, no bikes on the following Virgin service from Southampton, so my bike reservation was honoured on that. I'm not quite sure what you're expected to do with a bike in that situation when you've booked it onboard- the train operators have no requirement to carry it.
 

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I had a similar kind of delay to ChrisCoopers 1st one above... My girlfriend was travelling intercity for the first time, and I'd booked a train, as normal, not expecting the kind of day we had...

Some of you may vaguely remember 13th March last year, when havoc ensued on the ECML because of high winds. From Edinburgh, trains were restricted to 50mph, meaning NXEC had to implement an emergency timetable. Fortunately, I knew this beforehand because of the local news at 8 on GMTV! So we headed down to Newcastle Central (which was like a wind tunnel) at about 11, and our train was originally due at 11:35, but I'd guessed that wasnt the one we were going to get. We boarded one that had pulled in at 11:15, due to leave 11:30. Why was it so early? Theyd upped the limit to 80mph now, and NXEC still had this timetable to run to! I asked if we could just sit anywhere, and the guard, of course, allowed us to do so.

We left at 11:30, with much confusion as to what had happened, as many hadn't seen these broadcasts, but the guard, instead of checking tickets, was personally coming round telling the coach what had happened. Fair enough really, as the restriction was only in place as far as Peterborough IIRC.

Not that we got that far... Just leaving York, after a 25 minute wait because of the higher restriction, getting up to speed, then all of a sudden, a big brake application to a stop. I thought the worst for our journey at this point, especially as the driver was coming over the PA for the guard to come to the front of the train.

The train before us had pulled down the OHLE, and we had to reverse back into York. The driver walked past the train, looking sick of his life, and put us back into York (after waiting for a platform for 10 mins!!!).

We were told in York that unless your journey was necessary, you should catch the next Northbound train back home. I thought I had enough train knowledge, and I had booked a hotel for my girlfriends birthday, a bit of wind isn't going to stop us.

So we got on the next southbound train, which, thank bloody god, was a HST, now routed via Leeds. It was packed. No-one took heed of the warning, and had all squeezed onto this train, along with the original (equally sick) lot.

Everything went okay from there, apart from a 10 minute wait for a platform outside Leeds (as you can imagine). The restriction was lifted south of Doncaster, so the valenta on the front could scream down south.

Our arrival time... 17:40, right, smack bang in the middle of London rush hour. Not a good first journey, the second wasn't much better either...

NXEC put in another emergency timetable that day, running 91s to York and Doncaster, with HST shuttle trains every hour via Leeds, until the line was fixed. We were booked on the 20:00 from KGX, and there was fortunately a train at that time, but not the correct train... the 20:00 was supposed to be a HST, so all the reservations were wrong / not adhered to. Luckily, we got a table seat anyways, and flew up to Doncaster, expecting a change. There was no HST at Doncaster, and the train crew had no idea what was happening. We were later told we would form that HST train, but not go via Leeds, since the OHLE had just been fixed... Remember theres a timetable!!! We waited 25 minutes at Doncaster, 45 minutes at York. We were due into Newcastle at about 11, we didn't leave York until 00:04. Arrival time at Newcastle, a hard-to-swallow 1am...

We went to Edinburgh in December for the day, the 6:25 train was perfect, no alterations, no delays. The return journey, ended up 45 minutes late (missing last bus home) because of signal failure at Morpeth. Is my girlfriend cursed with trains?!

Dan
 
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Worst ever- Fleet to Wimbledon circa 1992- about 3 1/2 hours late...

Arrived a Fleet for 06:57 to Wimbledon- was told that due to IRA bomb threat, Woking had been closed, and nothing moving. Waited at Fleet for about 3/4 hour for a southbound service to Basingstoke (which had been sent up to Farnborough from Basingstoke CS) Incidentally during this wait a Class 165 had flown up the up fast through Fleet- an odd location for one of these, don't know whre it was heading.

Travelled south to Basingstoke, waited 29 minutes for a Reading train (yes, just missed one, then was interviewed for Meridan Tonight!!). Arrived at Reading, advised to board a service to Clapham Junction. Stopped all round the houses, changed at Clapham for a local stopper to Wimbledon. Arrival time 11:00AM, should have been there at 07:35

The next day was a bit better. Woking still closed. Travelled to Basingstoke, caught a diverted West of England class 159 to Paddington via Reading, District Line to Wimbledon. Only 2 hours late that day.

More recently I was trying to get from Reading to Pad, and there was a lineside fire near Slough, all lines closed. Official advice was to travel via London Waterloo, but the queue for SWT services was twice round the concourse. So I took a VXC service to Banbury and then Chiltern to Marylebone and walked the rest. Revenue protection on Chiltern knew about the GWML problem and passed my ticket, but the guy did say that he thought I was mad!! Only about 1 1/2 hours late- it would have been far longer if I'd have waited to get on a Waterloo train.
 

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Worst ever? I have to look a long way from home for this one: five hours on Amtrak train #14, the 'Coast Starlight' from Emeryville (San Francisco) to Seattle. Admittedly for a 1285 mile journey on the ever unreliable Amtrak, that's not bad. The CS is aka amongst US railfans as the 'Coast Star-late' because of its generally terrible punctuality. I recall tracking a few trains that were 12 - 15 hours late, which had major consequences for the dining and café cars.
 

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NXEC put in another emergency timetable that day, running 91s to York and Doncaster, with HST shuttle trains every hour via Leeds, until the line was fixed. We were booked on the 20:00 from KGX, and there was fortunately a train at that time, but not the correct train... the 20:00 was supposed to be a HST, so all the reservations were wrong / not adhered to.

I thought it was set up with the odd coach lettering on the 225s so that they could be substituted for a 125, or vice versa, without affecting reservations :?
 

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The worst delays I've had on trains have mostly been on the ECML from 2001-2003.

1) Going south on a Sunday afternoon, we got slugged at Newark by OHLE coming down at a level crossing (Claypole???). Arrived at KGX 210 minutes late.

2) Late January 2004, there had been a lot of snow in London. I left KGX on the 1400 Aberdeen train - an HST. We left on time, but it was obvious we were struggling by the time we passed through Stevenage, we were about 10 minutes late. We got stopped just short of Grantham and got held there for about 70 minutes. The alleged reason (put over the trains P.A.) was "lineside equipment affected by the cold weather", which was a collection of round hairy objects! We got going again, but it was obvious to me that one of the power cars was dead, confirmed when I wandered down to the other end of the train - it was quiet as a grave. When I got back to my seat, a nearby passenger was having a "rammy" with the conductor, complaining about the trains poor progress. I stuck my oar in, saying that the rear power car was duff. The conductor turned to me, saying that I'd made an unfounded allegation, which got the attention of half the coach I was on. "Go to the other end of the train and listen for the engine" I said, so he went down. This was at Doncaster, and I never saw him again till Edinburgh. However, near Morpeth, he did announce, over the P.A. that there would be further delay at Edinburgh WHILE THEY REPLACED THE POWER CAR! When I left the train, I gave the conductor a verbal mouthful! We were 4 hours late.

3) On a Sunday Afternoon going south between Northallerton and Thirsk, the 91 that was propelling our train stripped down nearly 2 milesworth of OHLE. We were stuck there for about 3 hours while a thunderbird of some description was rustled up from (I presume) Doncaster. It was bl**dy annoying to see loads of other GNER and VXC (as it was then) passing us on the slow up line. We got towed into York and had to transfer to another London service. Delayed by about 3 hours.

4) On 27th August 2001, a train derailed on the WCML in the Willesden-Wembley area, stopping everything in and out of Euston. The scheduled 1347 Glasgow departure from Watford Junction didn't leave until about 1515 and, as a result, I arrived in Edinburgh some 3 hours late. Because it wasn't their fault, the Virgin Conductor distributed Refund Application forms to everyone!

In the 3 years I worked in London, I picked up a total of £399 in refunds, all due to delays.
P.S. Why are all refunds multiples of £21 (£42, £63, etc.)?
 

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I thought it was set up with the odd coach lettering on the 225s so that they could be substituted for a 125, or vice versa, without affecting reservations :?

Thats what I thought as well, and thats what we were told, but we looked at the seat we were supposed to be in (after the change in coach), and it was reserved to Doncaster, not Newcastle.

Dan
 

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Wednesday of this week:
1625 St Pancras to Derby. Booked arrival 1815. Actual arrival 2000.

The 1615 St Pancras to Nottingham was already running slowly ahead of my train, when it finally stopped about 100 metres short of East Midlands Parkway.

Once all the paperwork was sorted, (giving us a view of Kegworth church for an hour or so) we set back (Up along the Down Fast) about 5 miles to Loughborough station, where we could go forward again, this time on the Down Slow, to overtake the doomed HST. I still don't know how long the Nottingham train had to remain there.
 
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