Lothian Buses and ECB Discussion

[TheEastCoaster]

Only 106 (West Granton - Dunbar), 113, 124, 139 and 140 to hourly from Sunday in ECB.

Sorry wait, the 106 is running from Granton all the way to dunbar?

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Sorry wait, the 106 is running from Granton all the way to dunbar?

Correct, presumably to maintain the every 30 mins service as far as Tranent.

140 only running to Roslin as per a Sunday as well.

 

[TheEastCoaster]

Correct, presumably to maintain the every 30 mins service as far as Tranent.

140 only running to Roslin as per a Sunday as well.

Do you have a link for all of these changes?

 

[Edirim]

East Coast Website (banner at the top of homepage)

 

[scotrail158713]

Do you have a link for all of these changes?

https://2d8m3v40mpjop8sg53r56aw6-wp...0329-East-Coast-Buses-COVID-19-timetables.pdf

 

[CraigLockhart]

If u search the individual timetables on the city services for next week some services appear withdrawn like the 10 and other are severely curtailed. I'm sure the 29 was every hour but don't quote me on that.

 

[Jordan Adam]

If u search the individual timetables on the city services for next week some services appear withdrawn like the 10 and other are severely curtailed. I'm sure the 29 was every hour but don't quote me on that.

If that is the case then it does seem Lothian are taking a far more extreme approach compared to pretty much every other operator.

 

[CraigLockhart]

The critical timetable is now on the website to download in full

 

[overthewater]

If that is the case then it does seem Lothian are taking a far more extreme approach compared to pretty much every other operator.

It would bring them into line with Stagecoach Scotland.

 

[Lothian285]

Emergency timetable for Lothian City services now released: https://www.lothianbuses.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/200329-Emergency-timetables-LB.pdf

Service 1: Clermiston to Seafield every 30 mins
Service 2: Suspended
Service 3: Clovenstone to Mayfield every 30 mins
Service 4: Suspended
Service 5: The Jewel to Hunters Tryst hourly
Service 7: Newhaven to Royal Infirmary every 30 mins
Service 8: Muirhouse to Royal Infirmary hourly
Service 10: Suspended
Service 11: Hyvots Bank to Ocean Terminal every 30 mins
Service 12: Suspended
Service 14: Muirhouse to Greendykes every 30 mins
Service X15: Suspended
Service 16: Torphin to Silverknowes every 30 mins
Service 19: Suspended
Service 20: Ratho to Hermiston Gait hourly
Service 21: Gyle Centre to Royal Infirmary hourly
Service 22: Gyle Centre to Ocean Terminal every 30 mins
Service 23: Suspended
Service 24: West Granton to Royal Infirmary hourly
Service 25: Riccarton to Restalrig every 30 mins
Service 26: Clerwood to Seton Sands/Tranent every 30 mins
Service 27: Hunters Tryst to Silverknowes every 30 mins
Service 29: Silverknowes to Gorebridge hourly
Service 30: Clovenstone to Fort Kinnaird every 30 mins, extending to Musselburgh hourly
Service 31: East Craigs to Bonnyrigg/Polton Mill every 30 mins
Service 33: Wester Hailes to Sheriffhall every 30 mins
Service 34: Riccarton to Ocean Terminal every 30 mins
Service 35: Suspended
Service 36: Suspended
Service 37: Silverknowes to Penicuik every 30 mins
Service 38: West Granton to Royal Infirmary hourly
Service 41: Grange to Cramond hourly
Service 42: Suspended
Service 44: Balerno to Leith Street every 30 mins
Service 45: Suspended
Service 47: Suspended
Service 48: Gorebridge to Royal Infirmary hourly
Service 49: The Jewel to Royal Infirmary every 30 mins, extending to Rosewell hourly
Service 61: Suspended
Service 63: Gyle Centre to Queensferry every 90 mins
Service 67: Suspended
Service 100: Waverley Bridge to Airport every 30 mins
Service 200: Suspended
Service 300: Suspended
Service 400: Gyle Centre to Royal Infirmary hourly

 

[Jordan Adam]

It would bring them into line with Stagecoach Scotland.

No it wouldn't. Stagecoach are basically running a Sunday service with extra morning runs and routes that dont operate on Sundays still operate to roughly a Saturday timetable. These Lothian timetables are poorer than a sunday level service.

 

[overthewater]

I think Stagecoach will be making further changes, no way it can keep going with the current levels.

Im surprised 300 and 35 are both gone, however Lothian at least keeps early morning runs to the Hospital etcs

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

When you include the subsidiaries there’s only gonna be something like 130-140 buses on the road across the whole company, good to see all routes to RIE have been retained and the majority to the WGH are still there too. Overall I actually expected a lower level of service, I just hope this timetable is as low as is required

 

[overthewater]

Im surprised nothing going up to Fort for daytime hours 10am - 2pm for the boots etc.

 

[alexf380]

Im surprised nothing going up to Fort for daytime hours 10am - 2pm for the boots etc.

The 30 is going there every half hour from Town, hourly from the Musselburgh direction.

 

[oldman]

They seem to be running the same service seven days a week.

 

[Auld reekie]

They seem to be running the same service seven days a week.

Makes sense IMO.

 

[overthewater]

The 30 is going there every half hour from Town, hourly from the Musselburgh direction.

Cheers, Trying to keep up with these changes isnt easy.

 

[Siemens Trains]

They seem to be running the same service seven days a week.

Yes, there's no reason for demand to vary a lot between days of the week. Nobody should be travelling unless absolutely essential so the need for each service won't change much. Some people's journeys will be dictated by opening hours for food shops or pharmacies but that's about it. Factories should be working shifts to maximise social distancing.

 

[SpeedbirdA350]

Emergency timetable for Lothian City services now released: https://www.lothianbuses.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/200329-Emergency-timetables-LB.pdf


Service 35: Suspended

Service 44: Balerno to Leith Street every 30 mins

Service 200: Suspended
Service 300: Suspended

I'm a little suprised about the 35, 200 and 300 being suspended. I thought maybe hourly for those. But 44 not going to Wallyford and short running to Leith Street is a tad suprising.

 

[Auld reekie]

I'm a little suprised about the 35, 200 and 300 being suspended. I thought maybe hourly for those. But 44 not going to Wallyford and short running to Leith Street is a tad suprising.

The 44 does surprise me.

 

[Edirim]

44 east section covered by 106/113 (113 will go via Macbeth Moir I believe)

 

[CN04NRJ]

No it wouldn't. Stagecoach are basically running a Sunday service with extra morning runs and routes that dont operate on Sundays still operate to roughly a Saturday timetable. These Lothian timetables are poorer than a sunday level service.

There's no demand, if there was there would be more services. Stagecoach won't be far behind now..

 

[smtglasgow]

If Edinburgh is anything like Glasgow, these service levels look about right.

 

[Jordan Adam]

There's no demand, if there was there would be more services. Stagecoach won't be far behind now..

Indeed they just have announced further cuts!...

 

[overthewater]

Just to point out that only effects Stagecoach North Scotland. East Scotland and West Scotland have yet to make any cuts, touch wood.

 

[TheEastCoaster]

44 east section covered by 106/113 (113 will go via Macbeth Moir I believe)

And the 106! Didn’t notice that the 106/113 will run in co-ordination till closer look at the timetables!

Also noticed the 1am run from Pencaitland to musselburgh, is that a first for Lothian to have a daytime service run at 1am?

 

[TheEastCoaster]

I'm a little suprised about the 35, 200 and 300 being suspended. I thought maybe hourly for those. But 44 not going to Wallyford and short running to Leith Street is a tad suprising.

Surprised mostly at the 200, though with the 400 not going to the airport and and cutting at the gyle i can imagine they are only running the 100 out there. The 300 i can sort of get as they are many sections of the route covered by other services, and the 21 does its job linking Drum Brae to leith I guess.

Would Maybury of made a good terminus for the 200?

 

[Edirim]

Given there are no Nightbuses, the earliest buses appear to plug the gap with the following being the earliest buses.
25 from Elm Row at 03:49/04:05 from Restalrig/04:15 from Sighthill
22 from OT at 03:57
3 from Mayfield at 03:59
16 from Silverknowes at 04:02
31 from Elm Row at 04:02
33 from Princes Street at 04:03
7 from ERI at 04:05
106 from Musselburgh at 04:06
26 from Seton Sands at 04:09
30 from Clovenstone at 04:11
37 from Silverknowest 04:12
29 from North Bridge at 04:15
44 from Leith Street at 04:16
113 from Musselburgh at 04:17

Most city buses appear to get back to the depot for 1 am except the:
00:30 7 from ERI and the 01:00 113 from Pencaitland.

 

[ScotRail158725]

Given there are no Nightbuses, the earliest buses appear to plug the gap with the following being the earliest buses.
25 from Elm Row at 03:49/04:05 from Restalrig/04:15 from Sighthill
22 from OT at 03:57
3 from Mayfield at 03:59
16 from Silverknowes at 04:02
31 from Elm Row at 04:02
33 from Princes Street at 04:03
7 from ERI at 04:05
106 from Musselburgh at 04:06
26 from Seton Sands at 04:09
30 from Clovenstone at 04:11
37 from Silverknowest 04:12
29 from North Bridge at 04:15
44 from Leith Street at 04:16
113 from Musselburgh at 04:17

Most city buses appear to get back to the depot for 1 am except the:
00:30 7 from ERI and the 01:00 113 from Pencaitland.

0415 25 from sighthill and 106/113 starting from musselburgh doesnt suggest Central is the only depot staying open