Mackies of Alloa

[overthewater]

What is going on with this company, has anyone heard anything? i'm lead to believe some of his buses have been sold off.

 

[GusB]

The only thing I found online was

Mackie's suspends services during coronavirus pandemic

MACKIE’S of Alloa has suspended key bus services until further notice.

www.alloaadvertiser.com

MACKIE’S of Alloa has suspended key bus services until further notice.

From the evening on March 31, the MA1, MA2 and MA3 bus services will be temporarily suspended, and a date has not been set as to when they will resume.

A spokesperson for the company told the Advertiser: "Mackie’s wish to apologise for the inconvenience that this decision will cause our passengers.

"The firm has taken this decision to help protect the health and wellbeing of both our staff and the public.

"Hopefully, normal service will be restored at an early date."

However, this was published back in March and isn't really news as far as this forum is concerned.

 

[awsnews]

What is going on with this company, has anyone heard anything? i'm lead to believe some of his buses have been sold off.

If they have it is very recent. A quick online check shows the service bus fleet to be taxed with none showing a change of ownership.

 

[ClydeCoaster]

What routes do Mackie’s operate? Do the MA routes not shadow First‘s 51 and 52 but at less frequency?

 

[overthewater]

They have 2 routes:

Ma1: Clackmanan - Alloa - Stirling
Ma2: Tullibody - Alloa - Tillicoultry - Alva - Stirling ( Ma3 is the other way.)

Ma1 is the only route from Clackmannan to Stirling direct

 

[overthewater]

Alas the company has NOT restarted any of its routes, even thought it does provide the main service for Clackmannan to Alloa and Stirling

 

[Observer]

Alas the company has NOT restarted any of its routes, even thought it does provide the main service for Clackmannan to Alloa and Stirling

Neither have a lot of the other non-First companies running in Stirling, not a concern for now. Would assume things are back in order by August once demand picks up and most things are open again.

As of 25 June 2020 these bus operator's services are suspended:

• Mackies of Alloa
• Addison
• Ferguson
• Bryans

 

[overthewater]

Will the services restart on Monday? has anyone heard anything?

 

[overthewater]

One of Mackies sources of income has disappeared:

NOTE: The two links explain about the current land which is used by the Prudential HQ and how it would be radical overhauled with reduced building for the pre and at lot new development.

Masterplan submitted to redevelop Stirling Prudential site

Ambassador Group applies to redevelop Craigforth site with hotel, housing, retail, distillery and offices

www.insider.co.uk

Craigforth campus Prudential HQ detailed : July 2020 : News : Architecture in profile the building environment in Scotland - Urban Realm

Craigforth campus Prudential HQ detailed, July 2020, News, Architecture and the built environment is an integral part of our society and we hope to provide a useful platform for debate, information and inspiration.

www.urbanrealm.com

Mackies had alot of staff buses but will less staff means less buses. Talk on the grapevine is they bus services are not coming back. - touch wood??

 

[GusB]

It was mentioned in the Midland Bluebird thread that Mackie's have gone. Has there actually been any official confirmation of this?

 

[Observer]

On the subject of competition, Mackies of Alloa look like they are resuming services at the end of January, since stopping them due to coronavirus.

• PM0001736/8 Registered​

  JAMES L MACKIE
  Route: Tullibody Terminus or Alloa Shillinghill to Stirling Bus Stance via Hillfoots and Stirling
  Service number: MA3
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 31 Jan 2023

• PM0001736/3 Cancelled​

  JAMES L MACKIE
  Route: Tullibody to Stirling
  Service number: MA3
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 31 Jan 2023

• PM0001736/2 Cancelled​

  JAMES L MACKIE
  Route: Stirling Bus Station to Tullibody
  Service number: MA2
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 31 Jan 2023

• PM0001736/7 Registered​

  JAMES L MACKIE
  Route: Stirling Bus Stance to Alloa Shillinghill or Tullibody Terminus via Hillfoot, Stirling
  Service number: MA2
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 31 Jan 2023

• PM0001736/1 Cancelled​

  JAMES L MACKIE
  Route: Alloa Mar Place or Clackmannan Main St. to Stirling Gooosecroft Bus Stn.
  Service number: MA1
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 31 Jan 2023

• PM0001736/6 Registered​

  JAMES L MACKIE
  Route: Alloa Shillinghill to Alloa Shillinghill via Tullibody, Stirling
  Service number: MA1
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 31 Jan 2023

Will be interesting to see how McGill's handle them compared to First.

 

[ScotRail158725]

On the subject of competition, Mackies of Alloa look like they are resuming services at the end of January, since stopping them due to coronavirus.

Will be interesting to see how McGill's handle them compared to First.

Are the routes staying the same as they were

 

[overthewater]

It very bizarre there have decided now to restart, However it looks like the MA1 service is not going to Clackmannan?

 

[overthewater]

Anyone seen head or tail of the new timetables yet?

 

[Mullac321]

Mackies Coaches are resuming services again on the 31st January. Another competitor for McGills? https://bustimes.org/operators/mackies-coaches

 

[FlybeDash8Q400]

Mackies Coaches are resuming services again on the 31st January. Another competitor for McGills? https://bustimes.org/operators/mackies-coaches

Given the levels of service that looks like is being offered I wouldn’t think so.

 

[Observer]

Given the levels of service that looks like is being offered I wouldn’t think so.

McGill's 51 often gets cancellations every day so there is demand for a regular service although it does look like it would be better if it was hourly - presume they don't want to go further in case they have issues with getting drivers etc.

Very much a skeleton service as they only need one bus for it most of the day although if you look at all the timetables you can work out that they need a second one later in the day from Alloa at 15:03.

Just to show you here are all the services in one day. I do think the stance numbers are wrong though for stances 8 and 7 as they're on the same side, should be the same stance not reversing out one and into the next.


They used to run a lot more prior to 2020 for decades and did have a Saturday service too but I would think if people use it and there's enough resources it'll get increased in the future.

If anything it might get McGill's to clean up the issues with the 51 as they do frequently appear on their daily short notice cancellations page.

 

[Stan Drews]

McGill's 51 often gets cancellations every day so there is demand for a regular service although it does look like it would be better if it was hourly - presume they don't want to go further in case they have issues with getting drivers etc.

Very much a skeleton service as they only need one bus for it most of the day although if you look at all the timetables you can work out that they need a second one later in the day from Alloa at 15:03.

Just to show you here are all the services in one day. I do think the stance numbers are wrong though for stances 8 and 7 as they're on the same side, should be the same stance not reversing out one and into the next.
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They used to run a lot more prior to 2020 for decades and did have a Saturday service too but I would think if people use it and there's enough resources it'll get increased in the future.

If anything it might get McGill's to clean up the issues with the 51 as they do frequently appear on their daily short notice cancellations page.

There is no 1501 from Alloa, so fairly sure that in true ‘Indy’ style it will all be done by one bus.

The timetables have been added to their website.

Local Bus Services – Mackie's Coaches of Alloa

www.mackiescoaches.com

 

[Observer]

There is no 1501 from Alloa, so fairly sure that in true ‘Indy’ style it will all be done by one bus.

The timetables have been added to their website.

Local Bus Services – Mackie's Coaches of Alloa

www.mackiescoaches.com

Then the times on bustimes are different to what is on there as there was a 15:01 from Alloa there and it is also on the Traveline website. Presume someone has made a mistake somewhere!

 

[Stan Drews]

Then the times on bustimes are different to what is on there as there was a 15:01 from Alloa there and it is also on the Traveline website. Presume someone has made a mistake somewhere!

There wasn’t a 1501 in the registration, so unsure where bustimes or traveline will have taken it from.

 

[markymark2000]

There wasn’t a 1501 in the registration, so unsure where bustimes or traveline will have taken it from.

Bustimes information comes from Traveline Scotland so if their data is wrong, that's how it's wrong into bustimes.

 

[overthewater]

Further changes are planned for early February 2024,

• PM0001736/8 Registered​

  JAMES L MACKIE
  Route: Tullibody Terminus or Alloa Shillinghill to Stirling Bus Stance via Hillfoots and Stirling
  Service number: MA3
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 12 Feb 2024

• PM0001736/7 Registered​

  JAMES L MACKIE
  Route: Stirling Bus Stance to Alloa Shillinghill or Tullibody Terminus via Hillfoot, Stirling
  Service number: MA2
  Service type: Normal Stopping
  Effective date: 12 Feb 2024
  

links to the details of the changes on VOSA:

Pardon Our Interruption

Pardon Our Interruption

 

[AndrewTaylor95]

More services added no doubt, been getting busier since the 51 and 52 are a shambles with McGill's