waverley47
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Hello all. I've been struggling to keep track of the current state of the fleet changes and tenders out for the various TOCs, and thought it might be useful to have a master thread (in the same vein as the new stations thread) to keep a track of the current and expected tenders, with links to all the various threads. I am not envisaging this to become a long discussion thread in and of itself, and instead to become more of a reference point.
Please also let me know if I have anything wrong, and I'll try and keep it as up to date as possible
EDIT 14/05: I'm still trying to track down numbers for 756 introduction, and concrete plans for the cascade between Great Northern and Southern. A more concrete number of 458s has been set at 20.
Links to the tenders for SE, Chiltern, TPE and Northern have been added.
For posterity, I am quoting post 24 here, which outlines the status of the Chiltern tenders
"Chiltern actually have four potential tenders underway, though there's no guarantee of all (or any) of them going ahead:
TRAIN OPERATING COMPANY | FLEET TENDER OR EXPECTED CHANGE | STATUS | NOTES |
Avanti West Coast | 23 class 805/807s are currently on order from Hitatchi | Acceptance of class 805s has begun, units are now in service No confirmed acceptance date of class 807 | Discussion here |
18 class 221s to be disposed of following introduction of new fleet | - | - | |
C2C | 12 class 720s have been introduced | All 12 units have been accepted for service | Discussion here |
Chiltern Railways | There are currently three tenders issued for new or converted multiple units, totaling between 20 and 70 units See note below | Three tenders issued, expected award date of early 2025 and delivery from late 2028 | Discussion here |
The mk.3 fleet is expected to be withdrawn, with a separate tender issued for 25 to 70 existing vehicles their replacement due into service early 2025 | If this tender is awarded, the two spare fleets would be either ex-TPE mk.5s or ex-TfW 175s | Discussion here | |
CrossCountry | 12 class 221s released by Avanti are expected to join XC between 'late 2024 and early 2026' | 7 units are a direct replacement for HSTs, 5 units are for additional capacity | Main discussion appears to be here |
East Midlands Railway | 33 class 810s are currently on order from Hitachi | Testing currently underway, delivery expected from 'early 2025' | Discussion here |
GTR (encompassing Great Northern, Southern and Thameslink) | 30 class 379s are expected to join Great Northern in 2024, causing a fleet cascade through GTR and Southeastern | - | Discussion here |
? class 387s are expected to transfer from Great Northern to Southern | - | See above | |
40? class 377s may transfer from Southern to Southeastern | Number uncertain, see also Southeastern | See above | |
Grand Central | No change expected | - | - |
Greater Anglia | 133 class 720s are currently being introduced | ? units accepted for service | Discussion here |
Great Western Railway (encompassing Heathrow Express via management contract) | A strategy for enhancement/replacement of 15x and 16x fleets has been published, but no tender has been issued as of April 2024 | - | Discussion here |
As far as I can tell, the 175s seem destined to join GWR, based out of Plymouth Laira depot | No concrete information as of 16/07/2024 | Discussion here | |
3 class 230s have been purchased from what was formerly VivaRail, this project is now run in-house by GWR | One of these units runs on the Greenford branch, and is being used to test battery and fast charging technology At least one of these units is in service (230 001) Two appear to be stored in Reading Depot | Discussion here | |
Hull Trains | No change expected | - | - |
London Northeastern Railway | 10 units are currently on order from CAF, to replace the remaining mk.4 sets | Order placed November 2023, delivery expected from 2027 | Discussion here |
Lumo | No change expected | - | - |
Merseyrail | 53 class 777s are currently being introduced | 38 units accepted for service | Discussion here |
Northern Trains | Tender issued for up to 450 new units | Tender issued August 2023, it appears to have gone quiet since then. Expected award date of 2025, first delivery from 2029 | Discussion here Tender |
17 class 323s are being transferred from WMT | First unit transferred October 2023, ?/17 units accepted | Main discussion appears to be here | |
ScotRail | No current changes, no tenders issued as of April 2024 | An update to the ScotRail rolling stock plan is expected, with three fleets of units: - A suburban electric fleet to replace diesel units on newly electrified routes, as well as ageing Strathclyde electrics - A new (presumably hydrogen or battery bimode) fleet for rural lines not currently expected to be electrified - A new (presumably bimode) fleet to replace HSTs on intercity services | - |
Southeastern | 40? class 377s may transfer from Southern to Southeastern | See also GTR | Discussion here |
Tender issued for between 350 and 570 vehicles, with an option for an additional 70 vehicles | Expected award date of December 2024, delivery from 2027 | Discussion here Tender | |
South Western Railway | 90 class 701s are currently being introduced | A small number of 701s are currently in revenue service, with details on the 701 thread | Discussion here |
2 class 707s remain at SWR | There is currently no set date for their transfer to SE | - | |
Between eight and twenty class 458s are due to be reintroduced to cover for the 701 saga | To be reintroduced by the end of July 2024 | Discussion here | |
Withdrawal of class 455s continues at pace | 9/91 455s have been withdrawn | ||
TransPennine Express | Tender issued for 29 new units, as part of the TRU budget | Expected award late 2025, delivery from 2029 | Discussion here Tender |
Transport for London (Encompassing the Elizabeth Line and Overground) | 10 additional 345s for the Elizabeth Line have been ordered to support the extension from Paddington to Old Oak Common. | Contract awarded 14/06/24 | Discussion here |
Transport for Wales | 77 class 197s are currently being introduced | 46 units accepted for service 30/51 two car units and 16/26 three car units | Discussion here |
All class 170s and 175s have been withdrawn or transferred to EMR | All 175s off-lease, all 170s transferred to EMR | Discussion here | |
5 class 230s have been accepted for the Borderlands Line | 4 units in service, one stored out of use for spares (230 006) | Discussion here | |
24 class 756s are on order from Stadler | ? units accepted for service | Discussion here | |
11 class 231s have been introduced | All 11 accepted for service | See above | |
36 class 398s (tram-trains) are on order from Stadler for the Valley Lines | Testing underway | Discussion here | |
Tyne and Wear Metro | 46 class 555s are currently being delivered | Testing underway, ? units have been delivered | Discussion here |
West Midlands Trains (encompassing London Northwestern Railway) | 48 class 730/0s are currently being introduced for WMT local services | 40 units accepted for service | Discussion here |
36 class 730/2s are on order from Alstom for LNWR long-distance services | Testing underway, expected delivery in 2024 | See above | |
20 class 323s remain at WMT | 17 units are transferring to Northern | Discussion here | |
26 class 196s are currently being introduced | 24 units accepted for service 12/12 two car units and 12/14 four car units | Discussion here |
Please also let me know if I have anything wrong, and I'll try and keep it as up to date as possible
EDIT 14/05: I'm still trying to track down numbers for 756 introduction, and concrete plans for the cascade between Great Northern and Southern. A more concrete number of 458s has been set at 20.
Links to the tenders for SE, Chiltern, TPE and Northern have been added.
For posterity, I am quoting post 24 here, which outlines the status of the Chiltern tenders
"Chiltern actually have four potential tenders underway, though there's no guarantee of all (or any) of them going ahead:
- 25 to 70 existing vehicles - This is the Mk3 replacement contract, and theoretically due into service in 2025. - Tender notice: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/037814-2023
- 30 to 70 new battery MUs or 30 to 70 existing or converted battery MUs - Tender notices: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/026867-2022 and https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/026866-2022
- 20 to 70 new or converted low emission units - Tender notice: https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/Notice/022896-2023"
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