Media Coverage of COVID -19

[kez19]

It’s not media as such but I see the Scottish NHS ad this year has adapted the clap for carers mantra apart from its clapping for the public using the services...

the irony of the ad is at the end says “ show you care” . I think ad is all about getting prescriptions etc maybe me but shouldn’t this been advertised in October or something?



Just a minor update: seen the new UK Government ad regarding reducing the spread of COVID during the winter months and letting "fresh air" in, who they trying to kid here? In general isn't that what we do all year round anyway in terms of letting fresh air into our homes and places etc?

 

[Mcr Warrior]

Are most print media outlets likely to be wanting to challenge whomever is paying for advertising?

 

[kez19]

Are most print media outlets likely to be wanting to challenge whomever is paying for advertising?

Doubt it but at least some are starting to question but then again where has this been?

 

[brad465]

The following tweet was made yesterday listing the deadliest days in the US in recorded history:

https://twitter.com/Sundae_Gurl/status/1336467842481479681

I really don't think Covid stats should be compared to the other sorts of disasters being referred to here; Covid is a respiratory virus that is doing what any virus normally does, where their deaths are essentially natural causes; weather events can be interpreted differently perhaps, while all the others on there are human conflicts/attacks/crimes on others (hope this all makes sense).

Furthermore this is by no means the only example of comparisons being made between deadliest days and other disasters (the counting deaths in jumbo jets seems to be common) that different media outlets/social media have used before.

 

[Bantamzen]

The following tweet was made yesterday listing the deadliest days in the US in recorded history:

https://twitter.com/Sundae_Gurl/status/1336467842481479681

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I really don't think Covid stats should be compared to the other sorts of disasters being referred to here; Covid is a respiratory virus that is doing what any virus normally does, where their deaths are essentially natural causes; weather events can be interpreted differently perhaps, while all the others on there are human conflicts/attacks/crimes on others (hope this all makes sense).

Furthermore this is by no means the only example of comparisons being made between deadliest days and other disasters (the counting deaths in jumbo jets seems to be common) that different media outlets/social media have used before.

This is fairly typical of the misuse of data by people trying to justify restrictions for covid. It takes only a few seconds searching on any decent search engine to find average daily deaths in the range of around 6K-8K per day, something this Tweeter seems to have omitted. And given that covid-related deaths mostly come along with other pre-existing conditions which can blur the final cause of death in data reporting, that's a glaring omission. Thankfully other responders have been quick to point this out to them.

 

[Jimini]

Beth Rigby off air for three months? Happy days!

 

[RomeoCharlie71]

Beth Rigby off air for three months? Happy days!

Six months for Kay Burley too. Hurrah!

 

[kez19]

Isn't it bit odd in timing? Few weeks ago Rita Ora got into bother for the parties and now its the turn of the journalists?

Rita Ora apologises for second breach of Covid lockdown restrictions

The pop star should have been isolating at home after a trip to Egypt when she threw a party.

www.bbc.co.uk

The star apologised for the party last week, and offered to pay a fine.
Details of her trip to Egypt subsequently emerged in the Mail On Sunday.
The newspaper said the singer, whose hits include I Will Never Let You Down, Your Song and Let You Love Me, had played an exclusive set at Cairo's W Hotel for a six-figure sum.
An unverified source also told the Mail that Egyptian President Abdul Fattah al-Sisi was among those in attendance, although the claim has been disputed.
In response, Ora said she "deserved criticism" for her actions, and would donate her fee from the concert to charity.

 

[brad465]

An overview of the part of Question Time on Covid saw the following action:

The Question was: "The growth on Covid infections is due to many people not following the guidelines. Shouldn't we be taking more responsibility to safeguard others?"

Generally the panel were either in agreement with this or similar, however as Julia Hartley-Brewer was on it she was the voice of criticising the Government and its restrictions, referred to similar patterns around the world as difficulty in controlling the virus, while also pointing out when Buckland said we trust the public to follow guidelines, JHB said that was a lie as if they did they wouldn't be imposing rules.


I would add that the first statement of the question the audience member asked is wrong, if not dangerous. The virus is spreading in a whole host of environments, including in plenty of places which are legal to operate, like schools and shops. The audience member also shamed 3 people they'd seen who they described as "young and fit" for not wearing masks in a supermarket; if that isn't prejudice I don't know what is. That sort of language/statement needs questioning/reality checking (optimistic in the current climate admittingly).

 

[Bantamzen]

An overview of the part of Question Time on Covid saw the following action:

The Question was: "The growth on Covid infections is due to many people not following the guidelines. Shouldn't we be taking more responsibility to safeguard others?"

Generally the panel were either in agreement with this or similar, however as Julia Hartley-Brewer was on it she was the voice of criticising the Government and its restrictions, referred to similar patterns around the world as difficulty in controlling the virus, while also pointing out when Buckland said we trust the public to follow guidelines, JHB said that was a lie as if they did they wouldn't be imposing rules.


I would add that the first statement of the question the audience member asked is wrong, if not dangerous. The virus is spreading in a whole host of environments, including in plenty of places which are legal to operate, like schools and shops. The audience member also shamed 3 people they'd seen who they described as "young and fit" for not wearing masks in a supermarket; if that isn't prejudice I don't know what is. That sort of language/statement needs questioning/reality checking (optimistic in the current climate admittingly).

Unfortunately this idea that the virus spreads because people don't follow the guidelines is widely repeated.

 

[bramling]

Unfortunately this idea that the virus spreads because people don't follow the guidelines is widely repeated.

And of course it’s very convenient for the government, as it deflects any blame which might come their way.

It’s very concerning just how easily people have been indoctrinated by all this.

 

[Bantamzen]

And of course it’s very convenient for the government, as it deflects any blame which might come their way.

It’s very concerning just how easily people have been indoctrinated by all this.

Yep, hospitals are approaching capacity (depending on whose stats you actually follow of course) because of people not following guidelines. Nothing at all to do with poor decision making, dodgy procurement routes, and years if not decades of underinvestment in the NHS....

 

[yorksrob]

Yep, hospitals are approaching capacity (depending on whose stats you actually follow of course) because of people not following guidelines. Nothing at all to do with poor decision making, dodgy procurement routes, and years if not decades of underinvestment in the NHS....

And having half/a quarter of the beds available of comparable countries - which just might have had something to do with hundreds of infected pensioners being sent back to reinfect care homes, thus contributing to our higher than average death rate.

No - it's people having too many pints with their scotch egg that's to blame !

 

[birchesgreen]

Six months for Kay Burley too. Hurrah!

Interesting how harsh the punishments were, i suspect there is more to it and this is an excuse to get rid?

 

[Bantamzen]

And having half/a quarter of the beds available of comparable countries - which just might have had something to do with hundreds of infected pensioners being sent back to reinfect care homes, thus contributing to our higher than average death rate.

No - it's people having too many pints with their scotch egg that's to blame !

Well everybody knows that pubs that have been running to a fraction of capacity, with table service, seating only often time limited with booking required in advance is the main source of spread. Not tipping poorly elderly people out of hospitals into care homes to make way for poorly elderly people from care homes into hospitals...

 

[adc82140]

The following tweet was made yesterday listing the deadliest days in the US in recorded history:

https://twitter.com/Sundae_Gurl/status/1336467842481479681

View attachment 86936

I really don't think Covid stats should be compared to the other sorts of disasters being referred to here; Covid is a respiratory virus that is doing what any virus normally does, where their deaths are essentially natural causes; weather events can be interpreted differently perhaps, while all the others on there are human conflicts/attacks/crimes on others (hope this all makes sense).

Furthermore this is by no means the only example of comparisons being made between deadliest days and other disasters (the counting deaths in jumbo jets seems to be common) that different media outlets/social media have used before.

What they don't say is that there are 1600 cancer deaths in the US a day. Every day, 365 days a year.

There are 2300 heart disease deaths every day, 365 days a year.

 

[52290]

Well everybody knows that pubs that have been running to a fraction of capacity, with table service, seating only often time limited with booking required in advance is the main source of spread. Not tipping poorly elderly people out of hospitals into care homes to make way for poorly elderly people from care homes into hospitals...

Pubs here in Lancashire are the safest places to be. They're all closed!

 

[adc82140]

Interestingly today's SAGE scientist on Radio 4 was introduced as "speaking in a personal capacity, not as a member of SAGE"

Has someone finally tightened the rules?

 

[Skimpot flyer]

Unfortunately this idea that the virus spreads because people don't follow the guidelines is widely repeated.

And fools like Sadiq Khan warning Londoners that if they follow the rules, we could avoid the devastating impact on people’s livelihoods that being placed in Tier 3... conveniently forgetting that just 8 weeks ago, he was imploring government to put the entire country into a ‘circuit breaker’ lockdown with no thought to the impact on people’s livelihoods...

 

[bramling]

And fools like Sadiq Khan warning Londoners that if they follow the rules, we could avoid the devastating impact on people’s livelihoods that being placed in Tier 3... conveniently forgetting that just 8 weeks ago, he was imploring government to put the entire country into a ‘circuit breaker’ lockdown with no thought to the impact on people’s livelihoods...

And of course the Wales circuit breaker worked really well...

 

[greyman42]

Beth Rigby off air for three months? Happy days!

What is the reason for this?

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Six months for Kay Burley too. Hurrah!

and this?

 

[kez19]

What is the reason for this?

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and this?

I think it was a COVID party (sorry social event) I believe.

A small number of Sky News staff attended a social event in London on Saturday evening during which COVID-19 guidelines were breached.


As a result of an internal review Sky News presenter Kay Burley has agreed to be off air for six months, and political editor Beth Rigby and correspondent Inzamam Rashid have agreed to be off air for three months.


All those involved regret the incident and have apologised.


Everyone at Sky News is expected to comply with the rules and the company takes breaches like this very seriously indeed.


In a statement, Kay Burley said: "I have today agreed with Sky News to step back from my broadcasting role for a period of reflection.

source News app on iPhone (Sky News)

 

[birchesgreen]

What is the reason for this?

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and this?

They broke Covid rules at a party. Paid leave i believe, not gone down too well with some other Sky News employees.

 

[DB]

They broke Covid rules at a party. Paid leave i believe, not gone down too well with some other Sky News employees.

The level of infantilisation here is pathetic - put in detention for being naughty!

 

[birchesgreen]

The level of infantilisation here is pathetic - put in detention for being naughty!

Yes it seems rather OTT, i do suspect there is more at play here behind the scenes.

 

[HSTEd]

The level of infantilisation here is pathetic - put in detention for being naughty!

Well maybe she should go on television all the time and rant about the necessity of the eternal lockdown.

She just thought the rules only applied to the cattle, and not to her as a member of the ruling class.

 

[DB]

Well maybe she should go on television all the time and rant about the necessity of the eternal lockdown.

She just thought the rules only applied to the cattle, and not to her as a member of the ruling class.

A better outcome would be for her to be instructed to take the opposing view on air and argue against lockdowns!

 

[bramling]

The level of infantilisation here is pathetic - put in detention for being naughty!

I suppose the trouble is it would cause a conflict of interest were there to be something like another Cummings affair, as they could hardly then go on the attack without being accused of being a hypocrite.

On a more general level it’s perfectly symptomatic of the wider population. On the one hand claim the importance of restrictive measures, but then fail to follow them themselves.

 

[Skimpot flyer]

<tongue in cheek mode on>
How will Sky maintain their reputation as a serious news organisation if hypocrite Burley is allowed back on air, ever?

 

[jtuk]

The level of infantilisation here is pathetic - put in detention for being naughty!

If I committed a criminal offence I'd be sacked, so...