Merseyrail Class 777 introduction updates

[Bletchleyite]

Well, unless they've fitted batteries to a 507/8, I'm not sure how this is possible? RTT and Traksy shows a normal service to Headbolt Lane with none turned back at Kirkby.

The display said 3 car service, so unless they swapped it back at the last minute...

 

[jamesst]

The display said 3 car service, so unless they swapped it back at the last minute...

The default setting for the screens remains 3 car service, 4 car has to updated manually at present. Just an oversight.

 

[Bletchleyite]

The default setting for the screens remains 3 car service, 4 car has to updated manually at present. Just an oversight.

Ah, I see.

 

[507021]

The default setting for the screens remains 3 car service, 4 car has to updated manually at present. Just an oversight.

I can vouch for this. Last week, I was waiting at Liverpool Central for what was displayed as a 3-car service to Chester, but it was actually a 777.

 

[prod_pep]

The display said 3 car service, so unless they swapped it back at the last minute...

The 507/8s don't have batteries, so they definitely aren't going to operate a Headbolt Lane-bound service no matter what the boards say.

 

[py_megapixel]

The 507/8s don't have batteries, so they definitely aren't going to operate a Headbolt Lane-bound service no matter what the boards say.

Unless they turn it back early, surely?

 

[prod_pep]

Unless they turn it back early, surely?

In which case the board would say Kirkby, not Headbolt Lane.

 

[mcnw35282]

Didn’t someone say they weren’t allowed to turn trains back at Kirkby anymore?

 

[Bletchleyite]

Didn’t someone say they weren’t allowed to turn trains back at Kirkby anymore?

I believe it was said that 777s go to battery at Fazakerley and turn there if doing so fails as if it sits down completely it isn't blocking the single line, but a 3 car 50x can go to Kirkby as there is some third rail on the platform.

 

[mcnw35282]

I don't think they can anymore you know.

As I remember it, when the third rail was cut back within Kirkby station there was a temporary arrangement put in place where 50x were allowed to turn back at Kirkby, but had to obtain permission from the signaller first. This arrangement was withdrawn once through running to Headbolt Lane commenced.

 

[prod_pep]

I don't think they can anymore you know.

As I remember it, when the third rail was cut back within Kirkby station there was a temporary arrangement put in place where 50x were allowed to turn back at Kirkby, but had to obtain permission from the signaller first. This arrangement was withdrawn once through running to Headbolt Lane commenced.

Things may have changed very recently, but 507/8s have been used in lieu of the 777/1 Headbolt Lane service on several occasions since it opened. The most recent example was on 03/11/23 when 508141 was used on an hourly Liverpool Central - Kirkby service.

 

[MR-507508]

Wrong thread - apologies

 

[jamesst]

At present the arrangement remains in place to turn back at Kirkby during disruption. When the service (eventually) increases to 15mins the agreement will end and any faulty units will turn back at Fazakerley.

 

[mcnw35282]

I notice they’re having fun on the HBL-LVC line again this morning…‍

 

[185143]

I notice they’re having fun on the HBL-LVC line again this morning…‍

Oh yes.

I was on the first one, left about 8 late. Failed at Fazakerley and had to do a full reset, which took quite some time. Then terminated at Sandhills, to find out the other 777/1 had also failed at Headbolt Lane and hadn't left yet. That left about 25 late and also terminated Sandhills.

 

[greeny11]

Not a great start to the WK line switching to all 777s. Departure board says there is a 3 car train out, and all the others are running with significant delays. My train is already 8 minutes late and it’s just left West Kirby!

Update: had 777020 which has been hit by graffiti on one side of the train. First ride on a 777 since August - much as I remembered; quieter and smoother than the old trains, but the seats are hard. Also, something I didn’t notice last time is that there is not much legroom in the double seats.

 

[Pacef8]

Just kicked off the midday at birkenhead central to liverpool.

 

[childwallblues]

Just kicked off the midday at birkenhead central to liverpool.

Whats kicked off?

 

[Pacef8]

Asked to leave the train along with all passengers due to a fault . As in booted off the train

 

[KevinTurvey]

At Liverpool Central today (I think it was 049) with its lights off departed empty "out of service" at about 4:15, don't know where this had come from or what the problem was. A few minutes later the Ormskirk train (probably 011) was also taken out of service with a possible door fault

 

[MR-507508]

At Liverpool Central today (I think it was 049) with its lights off departed empty "out of service" at about 4:15, don't know where this had come from or what the problem was. A few minutes later the Ormskirk train (probably 011) was also taken out of service with a possible door fault

777049 was likely this ECS run from Rock Ferry

Realtime Trains | 5T63 1547 Rock Ferry to Kirkdale C.S. | 27/12/2023

Real-time train running information for 5T63 1547 departure from Rock Ferry to Kirkdale C.S. on 27/12/2023. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

www.realtimetrains.co.uk

 

[L401CJF]

777049 clogging up the Chester/EP lines as we speak at Eastham Rake with a door camera fault on Ellesmere Port 2Y27. Semi fast 507 on Chester 2C46 stuck behind in between stations, and the following Ellesmere Port 2Y28 stuck behind that at Bromborough Rake.

Been there at least 15 mins so far, all already previously delayed due to power supply issues on the underground.

Traksy screenshot shows the 3 services listed above, occupying 3 consecutive blocks.

(Edit to add unit number and report now terminated at Hooton and become 5Y27, presume back to depot)

Edit edit - 777036 now failed on Chesters too with a tripcock fault and will terminate at James Street on 2C48

 

[NeoJade]

I don't think they can anymore you know.

As I remember it, when the third rail was cut back within Kirkby station there was a temporary arrangement put in place where 50x were allowed to turn back at Kirkby, but had to obtain permission from the signaller first. This arrangement was withdrawn once through running to Headbolt Lane commenced.

Believe the permission from the signaller was just to assure everyone that there wasn't any units on test trying to get there way back from HBL, and also so they could transition to the times they were required to for 777/1 intergration.

 

[childwallblues]

Whilst all on the forum seem happy to report 777 faults I would like to know which 777s have enteres service in December?

 

[gka472l]

Whilst all on the forum seem happy to report 777 faults I would like to know which 777s have enteres service in December?

I believe 777017, 777028 and 777030 all entered service in December.....

 

[Jamesrob637]

Coming up to the yearversary of the first entry into service.

 

[The_Train]

I believe 777017, 777028 and 777030 all entered service in December.....

Any idea when 030 entered service please?

 

[childwallblues]

I believe 777017, 777028 and 777030 all entered service in December.....

Many thanks for that.

 

[gka472l]

Any idea when 030 entered service please?

9/12 on Ellesmere Port line

 

[mcnw35282]

Are there any 777 out on the New Brighton circuit today?