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507011 and 507015 have left for Newport and are being dragged by 37800
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Merseyrail legacy fleet updates (Class 507/508)
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Liverpool 507
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507018 is covering a 777 diagram on the Southport line. Currently working 2U22.
Back in the sidings at Southport now.
Sam 76
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Presuming the 777 has replaced it again then ?
Edit: looks like 777006 decided to behave so replaced the 507
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The 1821 from Hunts Cross is a 777. 507018 was probably on 5T60 to Kirkdale.
Thanks
CallmeDave
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Status 507s not working today
507003 Birkenhead serviceable since 0810 06/05.
507016 Decision ref maintenance. Shown Birkenhead from 1534 13/05 (could be date and time of entry.)
507018 Southport spare off 1206 departure Hunts Cross.
Sometimes units shown Birkenhead may be at New Brighton.
Departures PM
diagrams below
1 is 001 017
2 is 010 029
3 is 007 023
From Southport
1: 0742 1012 1242 1512 1742 2012
2: 0757 1527 1757 2027 2242
3: 0537 0812 1042 1312 1542 1812 2042 2257
From Hunts Cross
1: 0621 0851 1121 1351 1621 1851 2121
2: 0636 0906 1636 1906 2136
3: 0651 0921 1151 1421 1651 1921 2151
507003 Birkenhead serviceable since 0810 06/05.
507016 Decision ref maintenance. Shown Birkenhead from 1534 13/05 (could be date and time of entry.)
507018 Southport spare off 1206 departure Hunts Cross.
Sometimes units shown Birkenhead may be at New Brighton.
Departures PM
diagrams below
1 is 001 017
2 is 010 029
3 is 007 023
From Southport
1: 0742 1012 1242 1512 1742 2012
2: 0757 1527 1757 2027 2242
3: 0537 0812 1042 1312 1542 1812 2042 2257
From Hunts Cross
1: 0621 0851 1121 1351 1621 1851 2121
2: 0636 0906 1636 1906 2136
3: 0651 0921 1151 1421 1651 1921 2151
Thanks Dave. 016 out of service for the umpteenth time needing maintenance? Never! 
507001 formed the 07.38 Liverpool Central - Southport service this morning (14/05), covering a 777 which failed to depart Southport with the 06.07 from there. However, it has now been replaced and is running empty as 5T60.
507001 formed the 07.38 Liverpool Central - Southport service this morning (14/05), covering a 777 which failed to depart Southport with the 06.07 from there. However, it has now been replaced and is running empty as 5T60.
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Neil Polo
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I’ve seen 507001 alone passing Freshfield at high speed twice this morning. Heading south both times. What would be the reason for this? It appears the train has gone towards Hunts Cross and then done it again. Would this be from changes of plan on its use?
Please see post above: covering a 777 for a single journey this morning. Now on its way to the Wirral Line.
Neil Polo
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Whoops. My oversight. Thanks.
Do we know what’s up with 016?Thanks Dave. 016 out of service for the umpteenth time needing maintenance? Never!
507001 formed the 07.38 Liverpool Central - Southport service this morning (14/05), covering a 777 which failed to depart Southport with the 06.07 from there. However, it has now been replaced and is running empty as 5T60.
Seems to be all sorted now. Reportedly 003 and 016 moved across to West Kirby earlier for stabling. I assume 001 is at North for exam.
Sam 76
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Was covering 777039. When I arrived for my train this morning, there was a few engineers on site rebooting it and at one point had no tail lights showing either. Assuming it was fixed later onThanks Dave. 016 out of service for the umpteenth time needing maintenance? Never!
507001 formed the 07.38 Liverpool Central - Southport service this morning (14/05), covering a 777 which failed to depart Southport with the 06.07 from there. However, it has now been replaced and is running empty as 5T60.
Did a round trip on it. Flying along. Slight flats one end.
harrym508131
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dynamic brake in or out? cant remember if 016 has it, its out of service that much with flats hard to keep up
016's rheostatic does not work, so no.
How many units have working rheostatic brakes? How easy is it to switch on and off? Presumably both units in a pair have to be on or off? 507007 appeared to be working in to Hunts Cross last night but not working on 507023 on the return trip.
harrym508131
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001 barely, 007, 017, 018 and 029 are the ones left with working dynamic now that 016 has been confirmed it hasn’t
There is a circuit breaker behind the driver's cab which allows the rheostatic brakes to be disabled. Normally this is reserved for extreme weather etc. but some drivers, mostly Southport-based, have taken to switching it off as a matter of course. It can be inconsistent in performance between individual units amongst other things.
007's rheostatic is in full working order, whilst 023 had it working in one motor only until about a fortnight ago. Five left with it working now as mentioned above, although 001's is not 'barely': it's working again in both motors and sounds excellent.
I must say 507016 was running well on the West Kirby line today. A good turn of speed and solid ride quality too, although a bit rough starting off. Definitely better than 003 on the Chester line with its lacklustre acceleration and terrible suspension. It was funny to hear another enthusiast describe it as 'smooth'; I love all the 507s but that one most definitely isn't smooth. Still, give me that over a 777 any time.
I have only had 507003 twice this year and I have to say it is a bag of bolts. Does it still have the dodgy luggage rack that rattles like mad every time the compressor cuts in? It was the only one I didn't have over the past three days.
CallmeDave
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Todays Workings
507001 is spare Birkenhead.
507003: 1124 Birkenhead Nth to West Kirby then W Kirby: 1221 1226 1451 1606 1721 1836 2001 2131 2301
Chester 507016 :0546 Moorfields Chester. Then Chesters at 0630 0807 0945 1115 1245 1415 1545 1715 ( 1843 empty Birkenhead)
Southports diagrams below
1 is 507017 507018
2 is 507010 507029
3 is 507007 507023
From Southport
1: 0742 1012 1242 1512 1742 2012
2: 0757 1527 1757 2027 2242
3: 0537 0812 1042 1312 1542 1812 2042 2257
From Hunts Cross
1: 0621 0851 1121 1351 1621 1851 2121
2: 0636 0906 1636 1906 2136
3: 0651 0921 1151 1421 1651 1921 2151
507001 is spare Birkenhead.
507003: 1124 Birkenhead Nth to West Kirby then W Kirby: 1221 1226 1451 1606 1721 1836 2001 2131 2301
Chester 507016 :0546 Moorfields Chester. Then Chesters at 0630 0807 0945 1115 1245 1415 1545 1715 ( 1843 empty Birkenhead)
Southports diagrams below
1 is 507017 507018
2 is 507010 507029
3 is 507007 507023
From Southport
1: 0742 1012 1242 1512 1742 2012
2: 0757 1527 1757 2027 2242
3: 0537 0812 1042 1312 1542 1812 2042 2257
From Hunts Cross
1: 0621 0851 1121 1351 1621 1851 2121
2: 0636 0906 1636 1906 2136
3: 0651 0921 1151 1421 1651 1921 2151
Apologies 003 is 1326 West Kirby not 1226 (typo)
BN 91119
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Just typical the one day I can come up 001 is spare! Hopefully she comes out today.
Thanks Dave. Makes tracking things down a lot easier for this afternoon.
I really thought the 'two 507s on the Wirral' ship had sailed but, excellently, they just keep on appearing. There must be a fair few 777s sidelined, unless they're just giving the old codgers a bit of a run out.
I really thought the 'two 507s on the Wirral' ship had sailed but, excellently, they just keep on appearing. There must be a fair few 777s sidelined, unless they're just giving the old codgers a bit of a run out.
BN 91119
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Is there a chance 001 may come out later on for the peak services?
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