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middlesborough closed due to a suspicious liquid

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Simon11

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MIDDLESBROUGH Train Station has been evacuated after a bottle contained a suspicious liquid was found on board a train.

British Transport Police were called at about 7.15pm on Sunday following reports of a burning smell on board a Northern Rail train due to travel from Middlesbrough to Darlington.

A transport police spokesman said: “On further inspection officers found a bottle containing an unknown substance on board the train. The fire brigade was called to identify the substance. The train and station were evacuated as a precaution.

“No one is believed to have sustained an injury.”

Cleveland Fire Brigade confirmed officers attended the scene, although was unable to say what was in the bottle.

A spokesman said: “We were called at 7.22pm to an incident at the train station.

“Three appliances attended as well as several officers.”

The station remained closed at 9.30pm on Sunday.

Buses have been brought in to replace scheduled train services between Middlesbrough and Darlington, Saltburn and Hartlepool while emergency services deal with the incident.

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Probably some pee in a bottle. I don't really see either place as a high profile target for a terrorist attack for some reason.
 

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yeah, i was stuck outside tees yard for the best part of an hour before they sent us back to thornaby to dispose of the train. we were told far less then but it was obvious something major was kicking off as there were ambulances and fire engines rushing about mad on the roads either side of the railway line at that point
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well facebook mutterings suggest a york guard had opened his sandwiches while on his break, but that was pure coincidence. and suggestion a newcastle guard had farted may have contributed to the incident!

personally, i wouldn't be surprised if some scrote had set a stink bomb off in an attempt to bunk the fare!
 

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Probably some pee in a bottle. I don't really see either place as a high profile target for a terrorist attack for some reason.

Either?

According to a Look North Reporter quoting Cleveland Police:

Gerry Jackson ‏@gerrylooknorth

Cleveland Police: Middlesbrough railway station evacuated, following "minor chemical spill". Trains suspended. Believed "no-one injured".
 

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and suggestion a newcastle guard had farted may have contributed to the incident!

OI! <D

I can think of one person whose farts are much more rancid that that Guard and who was tucking into a meal at the time of the incident!!!! :lol:
 

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huh! never mentioned you on fb, i was ready to blame the swan or even smell gar!!! that was lord codpiece who blamed you!!!!!
 

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Nowt to do with the Swan, he was on a GC watching text updates from NFL and cursing the 180s power supply
 

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It was hydrochloric acid, in one of those big plastic coke/lemonade bottles.

http://www.breakingnewsteessi.de/2njLmQ

hope this works, latest info on the acid in a bottle.

graeme

What a stupid and dangerous thing for the culprit to do. This country is very fortunate to have railway staff and emergency services who deal with such things safely and promptly. To state the obvious, an action like this could obviously do a lot of damage if the contents were drunk (perhaps by an intoxicated person or a toddler, for example), spilt or disposed of incorrectly (depending somewhat on the concentration and quantity of the acid).
 

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Was being reported that two people were injured (burns to hands), although BBC News says 'no-one was injured'.

Vandals have been known to use acid to etch tags into glass, with the containers then left behind for anyone (children, passengers, cleaners) to touch.
 

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It now a appears a 27 year old man has been arrested in connection with this incident, see here for further details.
 

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A 27year old man From Middlesbrough has been arrested and is assisting the BTP with there enquiries.
 

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My wife studied for a PhD in Chemistry a few years ago and had to travel to Glasgow to do some of her work, and one of the chemicals she had to use was hydroflouric acid, one of the most corrosive substances known. She had to use a special chemicals courier to transport it, but on one occasion she was talking to a couple of chemists on the train to Glasgow who rapidly became very alarmed when they thought she was carrying it in her suitcase!
 

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Person has now been charged with a number of offences according to tonight's Look North.
 

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Huh. Last I checked.. Hydrochloric acid in solution was a colourless, clear liquid. I don't think it has an odour either. In what respect was it distinguishable from water!

Unless I have missed something obvious...
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Just goes to show that you should always carry a bottle of ammonia just in case. ;)

Surely NaOH - to be on the safe side!

Imagine, it might interfere with the (CH3)4Si though if you took it on newer stock!
 
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So the rumour going round that it was coffee for First Class XC passengers is just folklore then?!
 

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Huh. Last I checked.. Hydrochloric acid in solution was a colourless, clear liquid. I don't think it has an odour either. In what respect was it distinguishable from water!

It does have a slight odour (from my distinct memories of working with the stuff!) but not enough to give the game away until it's too late, I shouldn't think...
 

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It does have a slight odour (from my distinct memories of working with the stuff!) but not enough to give the game away until it's too late, I shouldn't think...

It has a distinct sour odour - similar to sick (perhaps not surprising as our stomachs produce it!). The strength of the smell depends on its concentration and the level of humidity in the air. Inhalation of the fumes (Hydrogen Chloride gas) can cause choking and irritation.
 

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It has a distinct sour odour - similar to sick (perhaps not surprising as our stomachs produce it!). The strength of the smell depends on its concentration and the level of humidity in the air. Inhalation of the fumes (Hydrogen Chloride gas) can cause choking and irritation.

How concentrated does it need to be? I've never smelt this... but I don't recall ever using more than 1 mol/dm^3... I'm guessing they use much more concentrated solutions than this in industry, but I've never been at risk of inhaling HCl fumes. Which is good!

Just realised that if you google (CH3)4Si all you get is its name "TtraMethylSilane... or its more common name, TMS!
 

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Not very concentrated, somach acid is 0.16M and absolutely stinks!

The fumes are given off more in high humidity (a simple test for HCl is to hold the suspect container beside a running tap which will cause a visible white fume to be released).
 
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