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Midland Metro - full closure from Saturday 13 November 2021 (also Sydney)

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There is a report here that they are aiming to open the extension to Wolverhampton station in July. Nice timing if it is in time for the Commonwealth Games in Birmingham.

Progress on extensions to the Midland Metro would test the patience of a saint! Work was certainly taking place outside of Wolverhampton station back in November but I’ve no idea when it was paused. I was at the station last Thursday daytime and although the compound had all its lights on, it was closed off and no one was working there.

However, assuming they do resume work this month, I would have thought it ought to be possible to complete it by July.
 
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The new ticket zones and fares have been announced, and will come into operation on Monday March 28th.


A single in Zone 1 (Library to Jewellery Quarter) will now be £2.00 instead of £1.50, but there will be a Zone 1 all day ticket for £3.00, or £2.80 off peak.

So people who just want to make one journey are penalised at the expense of those who are making two or more journeys in one day.
 

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On a more positive note, the overhead line on the Edgbaston extension will be energised from Thursday (24th March). Testing and Commissioning is due to start on Monday 28th March (if they have any trams:().
 

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They are now saying that there will be no service all day today. (Sunday 20th March)
 

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More cracks discovered. Just reported by the Express & Star. What can you say other than to express sympathy for those people who wish to use the system.
 

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They are now saying that there will be no service all day today. (Sunday 20th March)

It gets worse.

According to the website, there will be no service across the entire network until further notice.

It does say that new bodywork cracks have been identified on some of the older trams, so it doesn't seem to affect the whole fleet.

Hopefully the suspension won't last more than a few days, but I won't be holding my breath.

Someone's head needs to roll for this.

Metro services suspended from Sunday 20th March​

Due to an operational issue, there will be NO SERVICE in operation from Sunday 20th March until further notice.
The safety and security of our customers and team members is always our first priority.
During inspections, new bodywork cracks have been identified on some of our older trams which require additional checks to be carried out by the manufacturer. As a precautionary measure, tram services have been suspended until further notice.
We are working alongside the manufacturer, to restore services as quickly as possible. While this situation is ongoing, we are committed to keeping our customers moving.
Metro tickets and passes will be valid on the alternative modes of transport detailed below:
• National Express bus service 74 between West Bromwich and Birmingham
• National Express bus service 79 between Wolverhampton and West Bromwich
• National Express bus services 9, 12/12A, 13/13A, 23, 24, 82, 87, 126, X8 and X10 in Birmingham city centre
• West Midlands Railway and Avanti train services between Wolverhampton and Birmingham
We understand the frustration many people will feel at this latest interruption to services, and sincerely apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.
For more information and to keep up to date with the latest details regarding the change in service, please visit our website or twitter page.
Alternatively, you can speak to a member of our team by pressing the customer assistance button located on the shelters on each platform, with any questions you may have.
 

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While they say ' new cracks ' is this fundamentally the same problem as last year ?
Another thought is could the repairs / strengthening to get the trams back in service last December have just moved the problem ?
Regardless either a long term solution or a new fleet is needed.
 

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A leaked email suggests that these are unrelated to earlier cracks and affect the bodywork. Earlier cracks related to the underframe. All together, most unsatisfactory and I wonder whether the underlying cause is really understood? Patching over the cracks only gets you so far.

It is interesting to look at the problems Sydney had with their similar trams and the fact that they estimated it would take 18 months to repair. What is noteworthy is that cracks around the doors were discovered at the same time i.e. October 2021. So this is not a new issue, not an unknown problem and I cannot but think that West Midlands did a bodged job to get the trams running quickly without addressing the issue of the door cracks and why they were happening. Or more importantly, stop it happening again. 18 months to do a proper job, fix the cracks around the doors, the bogies etc. Explains why West Midlands fixed their so quickly.
Australia has tough Covid rules and repairing trams may take longer over there, but I cannot help but think that West Midlands did a cheap fix and hoped for the best noting the Commonwealth games later this year. I fear that we may have more problems in the rush to get the trams back quickly without doing a thorough repair now as has happened previously.
Many believe that these trams are unsuitable for the purpose they were built and that would appear to be the case.
p.s. Sydney Morning Herald reported on 8 December 2021 that cracks around the doors were found in 2018.
 
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Birmingham Mail (24 March 2022)

Metro service to be 'out for a number of weeks' still - new statement in full​


Midland Metro bosses are "disappointed" over trams grinding to a halt again, and today announced the service will be out for a "number of weeks". They could not give an exact date of when the service will return, however, confirmed customers will be updated on progress every week.
Midland Metro also said it is "confident" manufacturer CAF will have the network up and running smoothly in time for the Commonwealth Games - in 18 weeks time.
Work is required across the fleet after bodywork cracks were found on older trams. CAF, whose trams have also reportedly failed in Sydney, are looking to replace doorway panels rather than repair existing ones to ensure robustness of the service.

Metro ticket validity on bus/rail finishes on Sunday 3rd April (Metro service status). Season tickets are currently being refunded.
 

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That is a good sign, even if they haven't quite finished building the Edgbaston Village terminus. (They are certainly not in any hurry about it)

I do hope that, when the extension opens, the destination on the trams doesn't just say "Birmingham" and that something more meaningful like "Edgbaston Village" is used instead.

On a less positive note, I see that the Midland Metro Alliance page on the extension


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essential testing is underway ahead of passenger services beginning later this SUMMER

Does that mean services won't start until June, although in reality I suppose no-one knows the exact date, except that it would have to be well in advance of the Commonwealth Games.
 

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I do hope that, when the extension opens, the destination on the trams doesn't just say "Birmingham" and that something more meaningful like "Edgbaston Village" is used instead.
Something like "Edgbaston via Birmingham" might be best of all, because some people up towards the Wolverhampton end might not know or care where Edgbaston is.
 

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I do hope that, when the extension opens, the destination on the trams doesn't just say "Birmingham" and that something more meaningful like "Edgbaston Village" is used instead.
I would imagine that Hagley Road might also be a contender for the destination displays. I also wonder if the through operation from Wolverhampton to Hagley Road will only be until the Deritend extension opens, whereupon the route from Wolverhampton might again finish at Centenary Square with the other route being Deritend - Edgbaston Village. But on top of that I believe I am right in thinking that it is also planned for the Dudley trams to run through to Birmingham so if they terminate in the CIty Centre as well then there may be some expansion of terminus points (extra platform at the Library?) to be done to accommodate the services. We shall see.

Dave
 

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I would imagine that Hagley Road might also be a contender for the destination displays. I also wonder if the through operation from Wolverhampton to Hagley Road will only be until the Deritend extension opens, whereupon the route from Wolverhampton might again finish at Centenary Square with the other route being Deritend - Edgbaston Village. But on top of that I believe I am right in thinking that it is also planned for the Dudley trams to run through to Birmingham so if they terminate in the CIty Centre as well then there may be some expansion of terminus points (extra platform at the Library?) to be done to accommodate the services. We shall see.

Dave
That would be good if so. Of course, the original plan was to extend it to Walsall too (and was there a plan for an A34 spur from Walsall -Great Barr - Perry Barr- Newtown-City Centre ?). I seem to recall that.
 

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That would be good if so. Of course, the original plan was to extend it to Walsall too (and was there a plan for an A34 spur from Walsall -Great Barr - Perry Barr- Newtown-City Centre ?). I seem to recall that.
I had heard about the extension to Walsall which I also think would be a great idea: it is helped by the fact that most, if not all, of the course of the disused line is intact, right up to the place where it joined the Bescot Stadium - Walsall route: that location can be found on Google Maps / Google Earth at WS2 9BY with the route towards Wednesbury running in a roughly southwest direction. Laying a tram route beyond Walsall station and into central Walsall, which would provide very convenient links with Walsall's bus network, might be easier said than done however due to gradients and the road layout.

I had not heard of any plans for an A34 spur.

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Hi Dave, yes, I thought it was part of the original 'vision' in the 80s, along with plans to revisit the A38 tram route too.
 

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The "5Ws" route, which was being developed in the mid-2000s, went from Wednesbury past Walsall station and through the town centre before turning north-west in the general direction of Wolverhampton. It didn't use the railway between Wednesbury and Walsall but took over disused trackbeds beyond.
 

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I would imagine that Hagley Road might also be a contender for the destination displays. I also wonder if the through operation from Wolverhampton to Hagley Road will only be until the Deritend extension opens, whereupon the route from Wolverhampton might again finish at Centenary Square with the other route being Deritend - Edgbaston Village. But on top of that I believe I am right in thinking that it is also planned for the Dudley trams to run through to Birmingham so if they terminate in the CIty Centre as well then there may be some expansion of terminus points (extra platform at the Library?) to be done to accommodate the services. We shall see.

Dave

I am not sure that people coming from Wolverhampton, Bilston, West Bromwich etc. would be happy about changing trams to reach the stops on Broad Street, even though that is a relatively minor inconvenience. It depends whether there is capacity on the Edgbaston Village line to accommodate the full service from both Wolverhampton and Deritend.

You also have to consider journeys from Deritend to and from destinations along the Wolverhampton line. It would be desirable, if there is capacity in the system, to have a Deritend - Wednesbury Parkway service, or perhaps even Deritend - Wolverhampton Station.

There is no right answer to questions about future service patterns, and in many ways this situation is similar to Metrolink. When it first opened, there were just the routes from Bury and Altrincham to Piccadilly, but now there are many different possible services patterns.

Similarly with Croydon, where the Wimbledon service ran to and from New Addington when it first opened, whereas nowadays most trams from Wimbledon go to either Elmers End or Beckenham Junction.

But by far the most pressing issue affecting the West Midlands Metro at the moment is to actually have a service that people can rely on. Three full service suspensions in less than a year, with no idea when the current one will end, is not good for the overall image of the network.
 

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That is a good sign, even if they haven't quite finished building the Edgbaston Village terminus. (They are certainly not in any hurry about it)

I do hope that, when the extension opens, the destination on the trams doesn't just say "Birmingham" and that something more meaningful like "Edgbaston Village" is used instead.

On a less positive note, I see that the Midland Metro Alliance page on the extension


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Does that mean services won't start until June, although in reality I suppose no-one knows the exact date, except that it would have to be well in advance of the Commonwealth Games.
I doubt that 'Summer' will usually relate to June.
 

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Works to restore the West Midlands Metro services have been progressing and we now expect to be in a position to resume passenger services by the end of May 2022.

Alongside the manufacturer, CAF, we have now completed a detailed assessment of the tram fleet and begun a schedule of works to replace cracked body panels that will enable trams to return to service as quickly as possible.

Midland Metro Limited (MML) has required the manufacturer to replace the panels rather than repair the existing ones to ensure the future reliability and robustness of the service.

While works are well underway at the Wednesbury depot, further steps are being taken to accelerate the repair programme, including securing additional ‘off site’ workshop facilities. Further details of where trams may be sent for repairs will be confirmed in due course. In the meantime, we have also brought in additional engineers from across the UK and overseas that have the necessary skills to carry out these specialist panel replacements.

This week has also seen another new tram being cleared for operational service after successfully completing a thorough testing and commissioning programme as we strive to rebuild fleet availability. Our new tram fleet continues to be tested and will be running through the network to ensure they are ready for when the service recommences.

Once again, we would like to apologise for the ongoing inconvenience and share the frustration of our customers at this suspension in services.

In order to mitigate the impact of service suspension this weekend it has been confirmed that further buses will operate for fans attending the West Bromwich Albion versus Stoke City match at the Hawthorns on Saturday afternoon.
https://westmidlandsmetro.com/works-to-restore-metro-services-is-underway/
 

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You just beat me to it, as I was going to post a reference to that article.

They are saying by the end of May, but I wonder whether they are giving themselves a bit of wiggle room, and that it will be possible to restore services earlier.

Although the last thing anyone wants is for services to be restored too soon, and then have to be suspended again because the repairs have been not be done properly.

Given that trams are already undergoing test runs along Broad Street, I wonder whether the extension to Edgbaston Village will open at the same time as the restoration of services on the rest of the line, or whether it will be some time in June before the extension opens.
 

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I presume they will open Wolverhampton to Bull street as soon as they have enough trams available and then extend to Library and Edgbaston as soon as more trams are fixed.

I would also expect them to have at least a weeks leeway in the project so mid May may be a possibility. I think a lot depends on hiring a space where whey they can take trams to be repaired so they can work on more than one at a time. I sense from the press release that they have somewhere lined up, but haven't signed the contract yet. There are plenty of empty industrial units around, but probably only a few that you can get a 33m long tram into on a low loader.

I'm sure the repair site(s) will become public knowledge - You can't hide a blue tram on a low loader!
 

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That is a good sign, even if they haven't quite finished building the Edgbaston Village terminus. (They are certainly not in any hurry about it)

I do hope that, when the extension opens, the destination on the trams doesn't just say "Birmingham" and that something more meaningful like "Edgbaston Village" is used instead.

On a less positive note, I see that the Midland Metro Alliance page on the extension


says



Does that mean services won't start until June, although in reality I suppose no-one knows the exact date, except that it would have to be well in advance of the Commonwealth Games.

Taking Summer as 1st June - 31st August Later this Summer could be mid-August. However not running for the Commonwealth Games wound be seriously embarrassing.

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But by far the most pressing issue affecting the West Midlands Metro at the moment is to actually have a service that people can rely on. Three full service suspensions in less than a year, with no idea when the current one will end, is not good for the overall image of the network.

Exactly !!
 

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Taking Summer as 1st June - 31st August Later this Summer could be mid-August. However not running for the Commonwealth Games wound be seriously embarrassing.



Exactly !!
I think they would want to have the full service, including the extensions, running well in advance of the Commonwealth Games.

So if they are aiming to restore the existing service in May, the extensions will probably open late May or early June.
 

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Full closure just announced, until further notice, due to repairs being required to all trams. All 21 trams withdrawn from service.


As a local to B'ham I have used the tram service often enough and local reports
have told us that the problem with the majority of these trams has been serious
visible cracks between the door and floor frames. for the benefit of those who
not yet aware there were 8 NEW trams delivered in early January from the same manufacturer no's 038 to 045 .currently holed up at the wednesbury depot can we assume these units are/will be trouble free?...the entire business is a disgrace
 
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Monday I saw 40/41/42/45 on test & Wed saw 42/43/44 on test all in the evening.44 complete with plastic covers on the seats & a CAF sticker in the window
 
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