Time for a ban on locos both diesel and steam, an outdated haulage method in the modern world, slow freight should stick to the road.
That is a bit of an escalation. You propose putting millions of tonnes of freight back on the roads?
Time for a ban on locos both diesel and steam, an outdated haulage method in the modern world, slow freight should stick to the road.
Nothing to do with being "sucked up". The lines are marked at safe distance for potential issues such as open doors, out of gauge load and reduce risk of lose cloths being caught up.
The speeds I quoted were for above and below 100mph if you look again.
And specifically apply to staff on the lineside who are trained and authorised to be there, not for trespassers or passengers on platforms. The distance is taken from the outer edge of the running rail not a platform edge.
I don't know the source of the image but I do wonder who took it and how as they appear to be looking down on the photograhers, not the place you would find a spare set of steps lying around.The limited clearance sign is the cherry on the cake there.
Again, they certainly look like all those “Facebook generation,” chavs who are famous for their love of old steam locomotives...::
I understand it to be the Driver of the Voyager that you can see in the image.I don't know the source of the image but I do wonder who took it and how as they appear to be looking down on the photograhers, not the place you would find a spare set of steps lying around.
I wonder how many of the idiots would bus spot from the hard shoulder of a motorway?
Not so long ago a lad decided to use Tyne Yard as his playground and suffered fatal injuries, DB were hauled up against Her Majesty's finest and were found guilty for not securing the site. and were fined accordingly.
Now today we have numerous people climbing here, there and everywhere for that illusive photograph!!
Can't have it both ways lads
No. And you'd expect anyone trying to do so to be picked up by Plod and escorted to a place of safety after being given some words of advice. But you can bus spot from the edge of a dual carriageway where the traffic might be travelling at motorway speeds. If you walked into the road and got mashed by an artic your family wouldn't expect to sue the haulage company. So your point is ...?
My point is that they shouldn't be trackside and should be prosecuted, but how close to being hit by a train were they? Being in the wrong place doesn't equal being in immediate danger of death.
Weren't they non-fatal?Not so long ago a lad decided to use Tyne Yard as his playground and suffered fatal injuries, DB were hauled up against Her Majesty's finest and were found guilty for not securing the site. and were fined accordingly.
Now today we have numerous people climbing here, there and everywhere for that illusive photograph!!
Can't have it both ways lads
Sometimes the Law is an ass.
Yup. And so the railways, the same as every other employer and provider of services, has to take the matter seriously. Hence the perceived H&S Nazism.
Punishing steam enthusiasts and photographers by banning main line running is unlikely to save any lives. How many people have been killed whilst trespassing in an attempt to see or photograph steam? Education is the way forward hand in hand with targeted Policing of high-risk trespass points.
Have you got a link to this?
I had a conversation with a 'photographer' as he was taking pictures of my Networker. When I asked him why he was taking photos of a generic aluminium piece of sh... He stated that these were the trains of his era.
Nostalgia and history is great but we also need to remember that trains, just as everything else, evolve over time.
It's possible to train spot in a manner that is respectful and doesn't inconvenience anyone. No need for the sweeping generalisation.
I was at Elford the other week happily photting from the road bridge.
I was checking out on Realtime trains how the Hull to Bristol Phillips Marsh HST was going fully aware that a Voyager was approaching at speed from the Derby direction.
Next thing there was a massive continuous blast from the driver on the horn. If I was stood directly above the running line I perhaps could’ve understood why he sounded the warning.
However I was over to the far right of the bridge past the loop line.
No harm done apart from the very near miss of wanting fresh under crackers.
Thing is why the warning?
I always get funny looks from the kettle veg brigade when i'm taking pics of pacers and sprintersQuite possibly you encountered one of those people who has some thought process of their own, rather than the run-of-the-mill jump-on-the-bandwagon types!
Personally I’m more keen on everyday stuff than something like a steam special.
I had a conversation with a 'photographer' as he was taking pictures of my Networker. When I asked him why he was taking photos of a generic aluminium piece of sh... He stated that these were the trains of his era.
Nostalgia and history is great but we also need to remember that trains, just as everything else, evolve over time.