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Discussion in 'Buses & Coaches' started by J-2739, 1 Aug 2016.
Anything operated by Buses Excertera.....
They turn up everywhere - when I moved from South London to Loughborough, a load of them turned up on the local routes to Leicester, replacing the Olympians . I wouldn't have thought such gutless buses would be much cop on hilly provincial routes down in Devon - they must have been going really cheap!
Can imagine that 2 hours on a Dart probably isn't most desirable - the ride quality isn't great. I've driven a few MCV Evolutions - but with a MAN chassis. I'd have thought they'd be more suited to provincial operations - smoother with an insane BHP rating. Although I liked them overall (second to none in terms of agility), the cab felt strange - the driver's seats were so high up that my line of sight wasn't far off being above the windscreen .
You mention the Tiger Evos, but from my experience no two are the same! Some have almost no legroom and rattle like Ledley King's knees, whereas others seem pretty solid and are quite comfortable.
The thought of two hours on a Dart fills me with horror. Stagecoach introduced Darts to my local route back in J-Reg days, and I've never forgiven them for it. I moan about the elderly E200s that still ply the same route, but they're still a massive improvement on what went before!
They were cascaded from Go-ahead London with a mixture of DAF engined and Volvo engined examples so yes on that respect. They were admittedly 4 speed versions. According to the fleetlist there are still a few struggling on but a big cascade is due to happen following delivery of new E400 MMCs for the 21/21A. That should see the remaining ones gone.
Sh@gged ex-London Dart that topped out at 14mph on a busy main road up a hill comes to mind! Also the later Vario spec Merc minibuses, particularly with Plaxton bodywork, and particularly in automatic form. Awful combination of poor suspension and handling, nasty gearchanges and badly built, relentlessy rattling bodywork. They'd find every ripple in the road and send it straight up everyone's spines. You could feel the things slowly shaking themselves to bits as they shuddered along the highway, pitching and rolling like it was in a force 9 gale! The earlier 709s/811s etc with the previous Beaver bodies were much nicer to drive. Northern Counties Paladin on step entrance Darts (ex Manchester) had the most cramped cab I've ever sat in, seat jammed hard up against the rear partition with minimal legroom - if you were anything above averagely tall you'd have had to find yourself another bus!
Optare Solos tend to be unpopular, however I found them a pleasure to drive! I also much preferred the often criticised Marshall Capital bodywork on Darts to the supposedly superior Pointer 2.
It was Northern Counties that built the Paladin, i did dislike the short wheelbase Paladins First Manchester had them & allocated some the long then 10 Manchester-Warrington think it was one of those built on the Volvo B6 chassis.
Of course it was! Apologies, I don't know where I got East Lancs from!
On the other hand Northern Counties did build some of the best deckers, including Manchester standard Atlanteans & Fleetlines, plus the deckers from mid 80s to early 90s & Palatine I & II.