Need Help For some track Probelms i have

[JamesHorrell]

Hello

I've Just Set up my Railway which is the 2 loops and a siding which Hornby Do and i put my Hornby R602 Power Clip in and i tested it all out and it all ran but as soon as i tryed it with one loco o the outside and one on the inside loop and sthen gave them a little power the outside one moved but the inside one didn't, so i checked the loco had it power pick up on the tracks and it did so i tryed again and i had the same result one moving and the inside one not, so i switched the points and the inside and the outside one move but as soon as i switched the points back the inside one stopped dead and wouldn't move.

I Thought its was The Power Clips which had Stopped Working so i took half the inside loop and the power clips out and ran the track with the outside loop and half the inside loop connected by 2 points and to test it i ran one loco around the half inside loop and i switched one points and let the loco run over it and then left that one open and switched the other one and the loco stopped dead so i switchedone point back and it ran again.

So to Run something around the Inside loop i have to
1)switch one point
2)let the train run over that
3)close that point and swicth the other one
4)let the Train Over And switch it back.

Now Having my Baby Cousin sleeping over on Monday Night i want to fix the problem so he can play with it with me.

So can anybody tell me what has broke and why it isn't working??

 

[sprinterguy]

Am I right in thinking that your layout is part of the Trakmat package, consisting of the basic oval plus Track Packs A and B?

I'm trying to visualise the nature of the problem here: Though I can't guarantee that I will be able to solve your problem, can you provide some more specific details of which particular sets of points need to be set which way to allow trains to run on the inside loop:
If your layout is in the form I am thinking of, then you have three sets of points; two forming the crossover between the two loops, and one allowing access to the siding. Could you refer to the sets of points using the terms:
1. Outer loop crossover point
2. Inner loop crossover point
3. Siding point
Or something similarly clear. Can you also make sure that you make reference to whether you are switching the points to be "closed" or "open" at each stage, with "closed" meaning that the train travels straight on across the points, while "open" would direct the train onto the curved arm of the points. I see you have done this in some stages of your report, but not all.

Somebody else may come along who can better visualise the issue from your desciption, but I'm going to need some additional assistance!

Finally, have you considered posting your query on the Hornby forum?

 

[JamesHorrell]

Am I right in thinking that your layout is part of the Trakmat package, consisting of the basic oval plus Track Packs A and B?

I'm trying to visualise the nature of the problem here: Though I can't guarantee that I will be able to solve your problem, can you provide some more specific details of which particular sets of points need to be set which way to allow trains to run on the inside loop:
If your layout is in the form I am thinking of, then you have three sets of points; two forming the crossover between the two loops, and one allowing access to the siding. Could you refer to the sets of points using the terms:
1. Outer loop crossover point
2. Inner loop crossover point
3. Siding point
Or something similarly clear. Can you also make sure that you make reference to whether you are switching the points to be "closed" or "open" at each stage, with "closed" meaning that the train travels straight on across the points, while "open" would direct the train onto the curved arm of the points. I see you have done this in some stages of your report, but not all.

Somebody else may come along who can better visualise the issue from your desciption, but I'm going to need some additional assistance!

Finally, have you considered posting your query on the Hornby forum?

Heres a video about my point problem and i have decided to get ome new power clips and see if thats fixs the problem

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6TlUA2Bveo

 

[sprinterguy]

Ah, excellent, a video speaks more than a thousand words

Ok, so not the layout I had pictured in my head: What the problem is is that you have set the power clip up on the wrong side of the set of points that it is adjacent to.

You say that you've set the layout up in that arrangement in the past and it's worked, but I'm sure it shouldn't, as due to the isolative nature of Hornby points that stops power flowing along any route that the points are not set for it means that as soon as you set both points onto the inside loop to "open", so that the train runs round the inside loop, then power is still flowing into the track but only into the outer loop that lies behind the two sets of points: Meanwhile the whole circuit that the train is running round is isolated and electrically dead.

 

[K9-70]

Sprinterguy is correct in what he says. You've got the power connecting clip in the wrong position.
Move the power connecting clip to the single track loop, where the red loco stopped.
That will give you power to both loops plus the siding.

 

[JamesHorrell]

Thanks for the Help and i'll have to try it in morning as i'm busy for the rest of night.