How will this draconian measure work?
I do not know how it works, but I have been in France on strike days and the trains shown as guaranteed to run have run where I was travelling.
How will this draconian measure work?
I've worked without pay to help my department out. Sometimes it's just professional to deal with a backlog or an issue or to help others. I'm a lowly Band 2 office clerk, my take home pay is £16-17k. So yes, I know what it feels when better paid workers go on strike. According to Indeed, a Northern conductor (their term) can expect £23k.
It amazes me why the Unions don’t put a bid together to run a TOC for themselves?
Is there anything to prevent this?
Apologies if there is but being a long time lurker on the board, it would seem a better solution?
Those “better paid,” workers probably are already doing things unasked and unpaid to help out.
What’s the maximum salary grade that’s allowed by you to protect its conditions?
That's a daft question. I'm not anti-Union, I'm not anti-strike. My issue has always been with disproportionate action which grinds the wider economy to a halt.
Money. They’re not as rich as the Daily Mail would have you believe. It’s costs a few million to even prepare a bid. Let alone the money you have to bond and front up. I’m sure someone on here will know the figures.
Police officers have been banned from joining a union since 1919, following strikes in 1918 & 1919. The current law stems from the Police Act 1996.I think only the Police are legally unable to strike, or be in a union.
The Police Federations are exempted from those provisions of the 1996 Act, but the government effectively controls how Police Federations operate (via the Police Federation Regulations 1969).Although isn't there something similar called the police federation?
I've worked without pay to help my department out. Sometimes it's just professional to deal with a backlog or an issue or to help others. I'm a lowly Band 2 office clerk, my take home pay is £16-17k. So yes, I know what it feels when better paid workers go on strike. According to Indeed, a Northern conductor (their term) can expect £23k.
It amazes me why the Unions don’t put a bid together to run a TOC for themselves?
Is there anything to prevent this?
Apologies if there is but being a long time lurker on the board, it would seem a better solution?
Co-ordination of major works at weekends/bank holidays should be an integral part of the plan for those works. I still don't get why you would want to do that work without being paid ..... but each to their own.
Fixed that for youWhere was the IT union when thousands of IT works jobs were outsourced to India - where was the flight crew union when the third crew member was removed from the cockpit of airliners - where was the retail workers union when workers in bars, restaurants and shops saw their terms and conditions eroded and contracts moved to part time or zero hours?
You are perfectly entitled to work late or at weekends etc without getting paid, although I really don't get why anyone would want to do so.
I've worked without pay to help my department out. Sometimes it's just professional to deal with a backlog or an issue or to help others. I'm a lowly Band 2 office clerk, my take home pay is £16-17k. So yes, I know what it feels when better paid workers go on strike. According to Indeed, a Northern conductor (their term) can expect £23k.
They don't you know........
You need to read some history. In the run-up to the 2012 London Olympics, Sebastian Coe and all the Olympic Committee stated that they wanted all the Olympic road lanes wholly to themselves for two months or more, and other excessive transport grabs, as had been done in Beijing the previous time. Boris, then as Mayor of London, would not accept this inappropriate disruption, and to the surprise of Coe's lot, who were not used to being argued with, consistently refused to have it. Eventually he talked the government round to the view as well. BJ and Peter Hendy, as Commissioner for Transport, very substantially watered down what the Olympics had demanded. Hendy was able to make the very public statement that "the roads will be closed to the people of London for not one minute longer than is necessary". Coe's embarrassment. Boris's doing.Do you think BJ gives a flying fig if you can’t get to work? Of course he doesn’t.
So, Peter Hendy's work then. Not Johnson's. That's why Hendy earned £650k per year as Transport Commissioner.Hendy was able to make the very public statement that "the roads will be closed to the people of London for not one minute longer than is necessary". Coe's embarrassment. Boris's doing.
Railways minimum service levels legislation
“To ensure people can depend on the transport network, measures will be developed to provide for minimum levels of service during transport strikes.”
The purpose of the legislation is to:
● Reduce the disruption caused to the public during rail strikes, while preserving rail workers’ right to strike.
● Allow railway companies to plan services more effectively, well in advance.
The main benefit of the legislation would be:
● Maintaining a level of service that ensures the public is not disproportionately affected by strike action and can conduct their personal and/or family lives, and to access healthcare, education or employment.
● Mitigating against the overall economic cost of disrupted travel to passengers.
The main elements of the legislation are that:
● Minimum Service Agreements will set out the minimum service pattern to be provided during rail strikes, and the minimum number and nature of staff who shall work to provide that service.
● Any strike against a rail employer shall be unlawful unless a Minimum Service Agreement is in place. If the Minimum Service Agreement is not honoured, the strike shall be unlawful and injunctions or damages may be sought against the union in the normal way.
● We will consult on how best to implement this in a proportionate way, including ensuring that sanctions are not directed at individual workers, and how this would interact with the wider industrial relations framework.
Key facts
● Almost 200 days of rail strikes have taken place, or are in progress, since 2016.
● Transport workers went on strike over three times more than the UK average last year, causing significant disruption to passengers and the public.
● The Trade Union Act 2016 increased the thresholds required for strike action on essential public services.
Territorial extent and application
● The legislation’s provisions would extend and apply to England, Wales and Scotland. Employment and trade union law is reserved in Scotland and Wales, but devolved to Northern Ireland.
There still remains the question asked earlier, will the minimum defined level be higher than Northern and TPE manage when there are no strikes?
It's been reported over some news channels today that nurses over in northern Ireland are on strike over pay inconsistencies with those in Britain. Guessing the future legislation is only aimed towards railway staff?
Police officers have been banned from joining a union since 1919, following strikes in 1918 & 1919. The current law stems from the Police Act 1996.
The Police Federations are exempted from those provisions of the 1996 Act, but the government effectively controls how Police Federations operate (via the Police Federation Regulations 1969).
There still remains the question asked earlier, will the minimum defined level be higher than Northern and TPE manage when there are no strikes?
Union leaders, particularly in the RMT, need to think very carefully how they respond to this and come up with a sensible plan to undermine it. Sadly I think they lack the mental agility to do so.
I suspect this is the nub of the issue with this poster:
I am poorly paid despite being a decent chap who works hard so am a bit envious of people doing what I think is an easy job getting paid loads more than me despite in my view not working as hard as I have to THEN Having the gall to try to ensure they are not treated as badly as I am. Therefore rather than try to improve my situation I want to pull others down to my level.
It is exactly the kind of messaging the Tories have been planting for years and it is sad to see it lapped up and regurgitated so openly.
If the minimum levels are in line with those I encountered in France both TPE & Northern would struggle to meet them on some routes if they continued with their current number of cancellations.
In such circumstances its would seem appropriate to replace "union" with "TOC" in the following - "If the Minimum Service Agreement is not honoured ........ injunctions or damages may be sought against the union in the normal way."
TOCs already pay a penalty for all cancelled services