Next Labour Leader

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  1. Bald Rick

    Bald Rick Established Member

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    Not a poll, yet, as it’s too early (and definitely not because I don’t know how to create one :oops:)

    But who would you like to see as next Labour leader?

    There’s a lot of love for Kier Starmer, but for me he seems a bit too cold and won’t connect with all the voters he needs to. He’d also, I think, be the first person to lead a party into an election as a ‘Sir’ since Douglas-Home.

    I would like to see Jess Phillips, mostly because she can clearly connect with a wide swathe of the electorate, but also because she passes an arbritary requirement of mine that she has a sense of humour sufficient to enable a prior appearance on Have I Got News For You.

    Second choice would be Hilary Benn.

    Over to you.
     
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  3. bussnapperwm

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    I think that Starmer would be the best choice for leader. He is a great orator and passionate in my opinion.
     
  4. Ferret

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    Yvette Cooper, Keir Starmer, Jess Philips - all plausible candidates. I fear it’ll be Rebecca Wrong-Daily or somebody equally loyal to the failed Corbyn project though. Epic lolz if it’s Burgon they choose.
     
  5. DarloRich

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    I would love for it to be jess Phillips. A strong sensible independent real person who has seen a real life.

    I dont think she would stand for exactly the reasons stated above
     
  6. NoMorePacers

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    The next leader needs to strike a perfect balance which would certainly be difficult - not too far left to make them look like one of the Monumentum lunatics, but not too "New" Labour (if you can call it new anymore :lol:) as to appear out of touch with the traditional voting base.

    Tricky indeed.
     
  7. Bevan Price

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    At present, does it matter? As I commented elsewhere, "they" will choose someone from the far left who will be just another unelectable loser.
     
  8. Ferret

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    Tories for Burgon is legitimately going to be a thing. And if you thought Jezza was a crap leader, you haven’t seen anything yet. You just know Burgon will be standing - he’s another puppet that Momentum can control.
     
  9. Bald Rick

    Bald Rick Established Member

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    He was absolutely hopeless being interviewed last night and again today.
     
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    Not that I'm a Labour supporter, but I very much like the cut of Stella Creasy's jib.
     
  11. Arglwydd Golau

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    She strikes me as the sort of person who wouldn't like the restrictions placed on a party leader, I can't see her wanting to stop shooting (or stabbing?) her mouth off...
     
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    I was pretty captivated by her acceptance speech from last night. Obviously passionate, a tad outspoken....but someone who comes across as having a deep belief in what she is saying (not robotically reading an autocue). She might just work.
     
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    Someone that is a credible leader, and has views that aren't loony lefty.
     
  14. muddythefish

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    Good backbench MP and a great accent (the US would need translations) but prime minister, really?
     
  15. muddythefish

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    Not for me. Bit of a cold fish.

    Now if someone could persuade David Miliband to return......
     
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    Emily Thornberry would be sensible choice, but Momentum don't do sensible.
     
  17. cactustwirly

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    Momentum need to leave before they completely destroy the Labour Party!!
     
  18. TheBigD

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    I struggle to see a decent candidate who would get the endorsement of the current membership. I also suspect the Labour will impose a sexist no men policy for the next leadership, and that Momentum's control of the party will see another hard/far left leader.

    For what it's worth, my personal opinion on the supposed frontrunners is...

    Keir Starter to too "Londony" to have appeal to the midland and northern seats. His less than stellar time as the head of the CPS is a concern.

    Emily Thornberry too sneery. The personification of the sneering Islington elite.

    Rebecca Long Daily, supposedly John McDonnell's choice is woefully out of her depth.

    Angela Raynor comes across as thick as ****.

    Jess Phillips, the shouty misandrist won't appeal to many working class men.

    Yvette Cooper's time has gone. And her last attempt at leadership was utterly woeful.

    I'm really struggling to see a candidate from current Labour ranks that will turn Labour in to a credible alternative government.
     
  19. LOL The Irony

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    I'm going to throw Andy Burnham into the mix.
     
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    I'd like to see Andy Burnham as well, though he'd need to be back in Parliament first.
    The Labour Party needs to remember when its most successful recent period of government was. If it wasn't for his misguided support of the Iraq war, I suspect Tony Blair would be regarded in much higher esteem.
    Whoever leads, the party needs to get back to reality and return to policies that are relevant to the UK as it is now, not how it was pre Thatcher. Tony Blair seemed to capture that sense of modernity with pragmatism and a socialist slant, so it should be possible to do the same again. Otherwise I can't see where the opposition is going to come from, and even the Conservatives would agree that a weak opposition leads to weak democracy.
     
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    Rebecca Long-Bailey? Has full northern accent!!
     
  22. eastdyke

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    Perhaps before thinking about a leader the question posed by Caroline Flint in her short speech last night after losing Don Valley needs answering?
    Labour losing Don Valley is was almost unthinkable and they lost with their MP of 24 22 years who was both respected, and in many ways admired, across party divides.
    The question:
    What is the point of the Labour Party?
     
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    Jess Phillips would be the wrong choice. Not statespersonlike and she winds a lot of the wrong people up. I think she’s less likeable and less electable than many people think.
     
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    Is the suggestion of Rebecca Wrong-Daily a serious one?!
     
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    Being not statesmanlike and winding lots of people up doesn't seem to have done a certain Mr. Johnson any harm!
     
  26. TheBigD

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    Currently odds of 5/1 according to a couple of online odds checkers.

    John Bercow currently 14/5!!!
     
  27. Drogba11CFC

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    Andy Burnham or Dan Jarvis would be sensible choices.

    This is Momentum we're talking about, however, so the next leader will make Corbyn look like Margaret Thatcher.
     
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    Lilian Greenwood is way too nice and probably would not want the job so I doubt it would be her but I would like her to be.
     
  29. 90sWereBetter

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    Dan Jarvis and Stella Creasy would be fantastic leaders, though I heavily doubt either would go for it (Jarvis having a tiny majority in Barnsley and Creasy recently becoming a mother). Of the more realistic choices, either Angela Rayner or Jess Phillips would be great.

    Unfortunately I've heard rumours that Richard Burgon is interested in the leadership, in which we may as well wind down the Labour Party and enjoy permanent Tory rule. :(
     
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    I am sure Kinnock Junior would love a crack at it , - not impressed with him though on Question Time yesterday.
     
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    If we could turn the clock back 10 years and make Alan Johnson the Labour leader, things would look very different now. I have a lot of respect of him.

    In the real world, I'd like to see David Miliband back.

    Oh, and no-one who's even slightly close to Mao-mentum. They can't form a credible opposition, let alone lead a country.
     

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