Northern Class 331 East:West unit swap

[Geeves]

Slightly off topic as I’m not sure where to put this but I’ve noticed 6 car 331s (some could be examples due for Yorkshire) on Chat Moss today is this now a regular thing?

All the Manchester Airport to Liverpool LS (should be) 4 car or 6 car now, the diagrams are in for the east on the 6 car front but they have not started yet, well none are running today anyway.

The final one is north of Preston over an hour early! Keep fingers crossed!

 

[oscarthecat92]

All the Manchester Airport to Liverpool LS (should be) 4 car or 6 car now, the diagrams are in for the east on the 6 car front but they have not started yet, well none are running today anyway.

The final one is north of Preston over an hour early! Keep fingers crossed!

Any news on when the 6 car working will start on the east side? The overcrowding on the 3 car workings in and out of Leeds is pretty severe in the rush hour and busy times at the weekend

 

[reecestrains]

331010 has successfully made it to Neville Hill!

 

[InkyScrolls]

Any news on when the 6 car working will start on the east side? The overcrowding on the 3 car workings in and out of Leeds is pretty severe in the rush hour and busy times at the weekend

Current internal memo says start of July. But I fully expect that to be further pushed back.

 

[19Gnasher69]

Seen approaching Bingley a couple of hours ago.

 

[xotGD]

Due to it running early it passed me while I was still on the train, rather than photting on the platform. Oh well.

 

[childwallblues]

Lime Street to Manchester Airport ii now booked for 2 x 6 car and 2 x 4 car trains.

 

[reecestrains]

A 331 has been assigned to Doncaster today...

Realtime Trains | 2B76 1624 Doncaster to Leeds | 29/05/2025

Real-time train running information for 2B76 1624 departure from Doncaster to Leeds on 29/05/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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[Harvey B]

A 331 has been assigned to Doncaster today...

Realtime Trains | 2B76 1624 Doncaster to Leeds | 29/05/2025

Real-time train running information for 2B76 1624 departure from Doncaster to Leeds on 29/05/2025. From Realtime Trains, an independent source of train running info for Great Britain.

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There was a 331 & 333 pairing on sunday too. I wonder if it's so Doncaster crews can maintain their competency on them?

333 avaliability is another factor, as three of them are presently out service

 

[xotGD]

There was a 331 & 333 pairing on sunday too. I wonder if it's so Doncaster crews can maintain their competency on them?

333 avaliability is another factor, as three of them are presently out service

Diagrams that should switch to a pair of 331s are currently being covered by a 333.

 

[Adam0984]

Was this anyone at Skipton when 331010 was been hauled through Skipton

https://x.com/OOCTransport/status/1928603582934270424?s=19

 

[Adam0984]

The date has been set for 6 car services to commence on the Leeds Northwest Triangle 26th June 2025

 

[oscarthecat92]

The date has been set for 6 car services to commence on the Leeds Northwest Triangle 26th June 2025

That’s good news, are the diagrams known?

Presume they are on the Leeds - Skipton and Leeds - Ilkley?

 

[Adam0984]

That’s good news, are the diagrams known?

Presume they are on the Leeds - Skipton and Leeds - Ilkley?

Theyre on all routes except Skipton to Bradford and back because there no method of dispatch at platform 5 at Shipley

 

[xotGD]

The date has been set for 6 car services to commence on the Leeds Northwest Triangle 26th June 2025

Happy to hear that it is happening.

But i still insist that with four termini, it is not a triangle!

 

[Adam0984]

But i still insist that with four termini, it is not a triangle!

I wondered how long it would take for someone to bring that up again

 

[Harvey B]

Theyre on all routes except Skipton to Bradford and back because there no method of dispatch at platform 5 at Shipley

So they're going to be used on Leeds to Bradford & Bradford to Ilkley too?
I'm surprised to be honest!

 

[Adam0984]

So they're going to be used on Leeds to Bradford & Bradford to Ilkley too?
I'm surprised to be honest!

They are but not a lot of trips on them, it's more just how they are diagrammed on and off the main Leeds-Ilkley/Skipton trains

 

[xotGD]

An article on the BBC website says:

"Extra carriages are to be added to trains on busy routes in parts of West and North Yorkshire, meaning passengers are more likely to get a seat, Northern has said.

The train operator said it would begin introducing more six-carriage services between Leeds, Ilkley, Skipton and Bradford Forster Square this week."

My bold. Has it happened yet?

 

[Adam0984]

An article on the BBC website says:

"Extra carriages are to be added to trains on busy routes in parts of West and North Yorkshire, meaning passengers are more likely to get a seat, Northern has said.

The train operator said it would begin introducing more six-carriage services between Leeds, Ilkley, Skipton and Bradford Forster Square this week."

My bold. Has it happened yet?

Thursday 1 diagram, next Monday 2 diagrams and then a 3rd diagram shortly after (I forget what day)

 

[xotGD]

Thursday 1 diagram, next Monday 2 diagrams and then a 3rd diagram shortly after (I forget what day)

Thanks!

 

[TT-ONR-NRN]

But i still insist that with four termini, it is not a triangle!

It's two triangles overlapping each other, if you think about it

 

[xotGD]

It's two triangles overlapping each other, if you think about it

That sounds more like a Star of David!

 

[theblackwatch]

It's two triangles overlapping each other, if you think about it

And there's a triangle at Shipley! It's difficult to imagine that, until 1979, there were no platforms on the Leeds to Skipton side of the triangle. I can't remember it, but I do remember when there was only one platform, which meant Leeds-bound trains had to cross to use it if they were stopping.

 

[rich-leeds]

Steeton and Silsden just now.

 

[xotGD]

Steeton and Silsden just now. View attachment 182643

I see it is the diagram that works the 17:19 Leeds to Skipton. My regular train, except I'm WFH today. Good that this has switched from a 333.

 

[InkyScrolls]

The 0716 left Skipton on time and has arrived only a few minutes down at Leeds. Success so far!

 

[oscarthecat92]

The 0716 left Skipton on time and has arrived only a few minutes down at Leeds. Success so far!

Do we know which carriages will be off the platform at which stations? Hopefully it’ll be somewhat consistent or I can see this being confusing for passengers.

It’s a bit of shame they did half a job on the platform extensions and not extend all stations (appreciating there is one platform at Shipley that can’t be done)

 

[Geeves]

331 004 + 007 are the history makers

If it carries on in service it should look like this

Departs - Skipton

0917
1247
1617
1817

Departs - Ilkley

1110
1440
2040
2210

Departs - Leeds

0825
1033
1155
1403
1526
1719
2003
2133
2320

Think that's all of em!

 

[InkyScrolls]

Do we know which carriages will be off the platform at which stations? Hopefully it’ll be somewhat consistent or I can see this being confusing for passengers.

It’s a bit of shame they did half a job on the platform extensions and not extend all stations (appreciating there is one platform at Shipley that can’t be done)

All six on at Skipton (2 - 4), Keighley, Bingley, Shipley (1, 3), Ilkley, Menston (1), Guiseley, Bradford (0 - 2), Leeds.

Front five only at Apperley Bridge, Burley-in-Wharfedale.

Rear four only at Skipton (1), Cononley (1), Steeton (1), Bradford (3).

Front four only everywhere else.