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158757

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Updated list 23/1/22 with units now with Digital Train Mods, any updates on 156 and 158 DTM mods appreciated as I don't see these as often. I've also added in the 195 seat cover change programme, I'll add in the 331s when they start. Updates and corrections welcome.

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Northern unbranded livery
EMR unbranded livery

# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
# - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls

150001 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150003: 150116 / 57209 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150004: 150112 / 57212 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150005: 150117 / 52223 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (Chapman seats in centre vehicle)
150006: 150147 / 57223 Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

# 150101 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150102 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150110 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150111 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150113 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150114 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150115 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150121 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150125 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150130 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150132 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150133 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150139 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150145 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150148 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150149 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

150120, 123, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet
150136 and 150140 several rows of seats in airline layout

150201 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150210 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150211 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150215 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150224 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

156401 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156402 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156412 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156415 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156426 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156443 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156444 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
156448 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156463 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156465 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156469 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156471 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156475 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156479 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (RAF 100 vinyls)
# 156481 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156482 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156486 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156487 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156488 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156489 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156490 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156491 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

# 158752 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158753 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158754 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158755 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158756 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158757 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158758 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158759 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158790 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158791 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158794 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158795 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158796 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158816 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158817 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158842 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158843 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158844 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158850 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158851 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158853 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158855 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158859 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (Thank you NHS vinyls)
158861 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

# 158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 and 158756 have cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 786, 789, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

170453 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170457 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170458 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170478 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train. TrainFX to be installed at a later date.

Key

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished,new blue flat cloth moquette seats and FCC interior
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319381 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats

769424 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
All Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323224 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

195001 - flat cloth seats
195002 - blue moquette seats
195003 - flat cloth seats
195004 - blue moquette seats
195005 - blue moquette seats
195006 - flat cloth seats
195007 - blue moquette seats
195008 - flat cloth seats
195009 - blue moquette seats
195010 - flat cloth seats
195011 - flat cloth seats
195012 - blue moquette seats
195013 - flat cloth seats
195014 - blue moquette seats
195015 - flat cloth seats
195016 - flat cloth seats
195017 - flat cloth seats
195018 - flat cloth seats
195019 - blue moquette seats
195020 - flat cloth seats
195021 - flat cloth seats
195022 - flat cloth seats
195023 - flat cloth seats
195024 - blue moquette seats
195025 - flat cloth seats

195101 - flat cloth seats
195102 - flat cloth seats
195103 - flat cloth seats
195104 - flat cloth seats
195105 - flat cloth seats
195106 - flat cloth seats
195107 - flat cloth seats
195108 - flat cloth seats
195109 - flat cloth seats
195110 - flat cloth seats
195111 - flat cloth seats
195112 - flat cloth seats
195113 - blue moquette seats
195114 - flat cloth seats
195115 - flat cloth seats
195116 - flat cloth seats
195117 - flat cloth seats
195118 - flat cloth seats
195119 - blue moquette seats
195120 - flat cloth seats
195121 - flat cloth seats
195122 - flat cloth seats
195123 - flat cloth seats
195124 - flat cloth seats
195125 - flat cloth seats
195126 - flat cloth seats
195127 - flat cloth seats
195128 - flat cloth seats
195129 - blue moquette seats
195130 - flat cloth seats
195131 - flat cloth seats
195132 - flat cloth seats
195133 - flat cloth seats
 
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In terms of 170s, at least 456, 459, 460, 472, 473, 474, 475, 476 and 477 are now done.

The first 333 (011) is also now in for digital works, though I'm not sure if that includes TrainFX yet.
 
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skyhigh said:
The first 333 (011) is also now in for digital works, though I'm not sure if that includes TrainFX yet.
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If they were cascaded onto the Leeds to Doncaster route then they would definitely need TrainFX as to the best of my knowledge they don’t have the announcements for that line.

They could begin working that route in May 2022 now that the works required at Leeds to support 6 carriage 331s on the Leeds Northwest services are done.
 
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Halish Railway said:
If they were cascaded onto the Leeds to Doncaster route then they would definitely need TrainFX as to the best of my knowledge they don’t have the announcements for that line.
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333s are definitely getting TrainFX as the current system is outdated and spare parts are getting harder to source. It cannot announce Kirkstall Forge or Apperley Bridge (or other required announcements such as the BTP one), so TrainFX will be fitted to standardise the units with the wider fleet. I'm just unsure as to whether it's being done at the same time as the digital mods or later - such as is happening with the 170s. They do have route codes in the cab to input into the PIS system for Leeds-Doncaster, though I don't know if there are associated announcements.

Halish Railway said:
They could begin working that route in May 2022 now that the works required at Leeds to support 6 carriage 331s on the Leeds Northwest services are done.
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No plans for them to run to Doncaster.
 
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skyhigh said:
No plans for them to run to Doncaster.
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So then what would work the Doncaster services once the 331/1s have migrated west in exchange for some 331/0s? I don’t think that anyone would be keen on having another 6 carriage train using a through platform at Leeds and going down to a single 331/0 would be completely unacceptable.
 
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adrock1976 said:
Regarding the 323s, have the ones that were fitted for airport workings that were dedicated to Man Pic - Airport been refitted like the rest of the fleet?
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IIRC all 323s now have the same layout, with the extra seats in place of luggage racks on the airport ones being ones removed during fitment of the accessible toilet
 
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Halish Railway said:
If they were cascaded onto the Leeds to Doncaster route then they would definitely need TrainFX as to the best of my knowledge they don’t have the announcements for that line.

They could begin working that route in May 2022 now that the works required at Leeds to support 6 carriage 331s on the Leeds Northwest services are done.
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333’s have full audio/visual announcements for the Leeds - Donny service. I worked one over the route 10+ years ago.
 
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Halish Railway said:
So then what would work the Doncaster services once the 331/1s have migrated west in exchange for some 331/0s? I don’t think that anyone would be keen on having another 6 carriage train using a through platform at Leeds and going down to a single 331/0 would be completely unacceptable.
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Exactly, it's a loose loose for everyone. The Airport - Blackpool services need to be 6 cars and I don't believe some platforms can take 6 cars on the east side (though SDO can solve that)
 
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Does anyone know what is up with 170453, is off for storm damage repair, seem to think there was something hit on the Harrogate line. MTIA
 
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158757 said:
Updated list 23/1/22 with units now with Digital Train Mods, any updates on 156 and 158 DTM mods appreciated as I don't see these as often. I've also added in the 195 seat cover change programme, I'll add in the 331s when they start. Updates and corrections welcome.

Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Northern unbranded livery
EMR unbranded livery

# – Digital Train Modifications complete (USB, CCTV, additional PIS screens)
# - Northern Connect Mods (Seat reservations)
Prototype refurbishment – light blue seat backs, Arriva turquoise grab poles, cream coloured end walls

150001 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150002 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150003: 150116 / 57209 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150004: 150112 / 57212 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150005: 150117 / 52223 Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats (Chapman seats in centre vehicle)
150006: 150147 / 57223 Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

# 150101 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150102 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150103 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150104 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150105 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150106 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150107 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150108 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150109 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150110 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150111 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150113 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150114 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150115 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150118 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150119 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150120 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150121 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150122 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150123 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150124 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150125 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150126 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150127 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150128 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150129 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150130 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150131 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150132 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150133 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150134 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150135 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150136 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150137 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150138 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150139 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150140 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150141 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150142 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150143 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150144 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150145 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150146 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150148 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150149 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150150 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

150120, 123, 127, 128, 129, 130, 131 retain Silverlink NSE blue wall carpet
150136 and 150140 several rows of seats in airline layout

150201 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150203 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150204 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150205 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150206 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150210 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150211 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150214 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150215 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150218 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 150220 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
150222 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150224 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150225 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
150226 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150228 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150268 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150269 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150270 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150271 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150272 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150273 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150274 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150275 – Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150276 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats
# 150277 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Ashbourne seats

150205 has a row of seats that were incorrectly fitted in a bay layout on refurb

155341 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155342 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155343 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155344 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155345 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
155346 - Refurbished (prototype style), new blue moquette Chapman seats
155347 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

156401 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
156402 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156412 - Unrefurbished, GA "chicken drumstick" moquette Chapman seats
156415 - Unrefurbished, EMT red moquette Chapman seats
# 156420 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156421 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156423 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156424 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156425 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156426 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156427 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156428 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156429 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156438 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156440 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156441 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156443 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156444 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156447 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
156448 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156449 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156451 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156452 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156463 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156464 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
156465 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156466 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 156468 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156469 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156471 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156475 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156479 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156480 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats (RAF 100 vinyls)
# 156481 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156482 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156483 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156484 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156485 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 156486 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156487 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156488 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156489 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156490 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
# 156491 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Richmond seats
156496 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

# 158752 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158753 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158754 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158755 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158756 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158757 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158758 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats
# 158759 - Refurbished, new blue moquette MTB seats

158782 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158784 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158786 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158787 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158789 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158790 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158791 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158792 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158793 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158794 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158795 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158796 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158797 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158815 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158816 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158817 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158842 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158843 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158844 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158845 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158848 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
## 158849 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158850 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158851 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158853 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158855 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158859 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158860 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats (Thank you NHS vinyls)
158861 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158867 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158868 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158869 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158870 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158871 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
158872 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

# 158901 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158902 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158903 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158904 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158905 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158906 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158907 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158908 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158909 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats
# 158910 - Refurbished, new blue flat cloth Fainsa seats

158752 and 158756 have cream coloured end walls instead of navy blue

158752-759, 782, 786, 789, 867-871 retain the parcels cupboard in the 57 end vehicle

170453 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170454 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170455 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170456 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170457 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170458 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170459 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170460 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170461 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170472 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170473 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170474 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170475 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170476 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
# 170477 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats
170478 - Refurbished, new blue moquette Chapman seats

170453-458 retain an old first class section (declassified) at each end of the train. TrainFX to be installed at a later date.

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Liveries

Northern livery with logos
Unbranded Thameslink White/Blue

319361 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319366 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319367 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319368 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319369 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319370 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319372 – unrefurbished,new blue flat cloth moquette seats and FCC interior
319375 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319378 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats
319379 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319381 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319383 – refurbished, new blue flat cloth seats
319384 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319385 – refurbished, First Capital Connect moquette seats
319386 – refurbished, dark purple “Northern Electrics” moquette seats

769424 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769431 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769434 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769442 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769448 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769450 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769456 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
769458 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

319367 has additional PIS screens fitted although never used
All Northern 769s retain a declassified first class section

323223 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323224 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323225 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323226 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323227 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323228 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323229 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323230 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323231 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323232 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323233 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323234 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323235 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323236 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323237 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323238 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
323239 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

333001 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333002 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333003 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333004 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333005 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333006 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333007 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333008 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333009 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333010 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333011 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333012 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333013 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333014 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333015 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats
333016 – refurbished, new blue moquette seats

195001 - flat cloth seats
195002 - blue moquette seats
195003 - flat cloth seats
195004 - blue moquette seats
195005 - blue moquette seats
195006 - flat cloth seats
195007 - blue moquette seats
195008 - flat cloth seats
195009 - blue moquette seats
195010 - flat cloth seats
195011 - flat cloth seats
195012 - blue moquette seats
195013 - flat cloth seats
195014 - blue moquette seats
195015 - flat cloth seats
195016 - flat cloth seats
195017 - flat cloth seats
195018 - flat cloth seats
195019 - blue moquette seats
195020 - flat cloth seats
195021 - flat cloth seats
195022 - flat cloth seats
195023 - flat cloth seats
195024 - blue moquette seats
195025 - flat cloth seats

195101 - flat cloth seats
195102 - flat cloth seats
195103 - flat cloth seats
195104 - flat cloth seats
195105 - flat cloth seats
195106 - flat cloth seats
195107 - flat cloth seats
195108 - flat cloth seats
195109 - flat cloth seats
195110 - flat cloth seats
195111 - flat cloth seats
195112 - flat cloth seats
195113 - blue moquette seats
195114 - flat cloth seats
195115 - flat cloth seats
195116 - flat cloth seats
195117 - flat cloth seats
195118 - flat cloth seats
195119 - blue moquette seats
195120 - flat cloth seats
195121 - flat cloth seats
195122 - flat cloth seats
195123 - flat cloth seats
195124 - flat cloth seats
195125 - flat cloth seats
195126 - flat cloth seats
195127 - flat cloth seats
195128 - flat cloth seats
195129 - blue moquette seats
195130 - flat cloth seats
195131 - flat cloth seats
195132 - flat cloth seats
195133 - flat cloth seats
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I was on 158867 yesterday and it had moquette upholstery which was grubby around the edges so not newly done. There appeared to be no charging sockets fitted to the unit, either.
 
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themiller said:
I was on 158867 yesterday and it had moquette upholstery which was grubby around the edges so not newly done. There appeared to be no charging sockets fitted to the unit, either.
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867 still has flat cloth seats, and hasn't had the digital train mods yet so won't have USBs (as denoted by # on the list). So the list is correct for the condition of the unit. Both will be done eventually.
 
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skyhigh said:
867 still has flat cloth seats, and hasn't had the digital train mods yet so won't have USBs (as denoted by # on the list). So the list is correct for the condition of the unit. Both will be done eventually.
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Just checked RTT for the unit number on the train from Leeds to Carlisle arriving 1800 yesterday and it was definitely 158867. Seat fabric was definitely moquette. Checked the seat type and they were definitely not the same as on 158755 that we went to Leeds on that morning. Seats on 158867 were more comfortable with multiple cloth panels sewn together on both squab and back. Seat backs were tapered towards the top with yellow handles on gangway seats as in photo (from a search on internet).1643488261226.jpeg
 
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themiller said:
Just checked RTT for the unit number on the train from Leeds to Carlisle arriving 1800 yesterday and it was definitely 158867. Seat fabric was definitely moquette. Checked the seat type and they were definitely not the same as on 158755 that we went to Leeds on that morning. Seats on 158867 were more comfortable with multiple cloth panels sewn together on both squab and back. Seat backs were tapered towards the top with yellow handles on gangway seats as in photo (from a search on internet).View attachment 109504
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755 has the original seats with new moquette covers, as do all the 3 car 158s. 867 has new 'ironing board' seats which should have flat cloth covers (as shown in that photo). 158s are only planned to get the new covers once all the 195s and then 331s are completed. That's a while off so I'd be surprised if a 158 has got the new covers yet.
 
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Nice to see 323236 back in service today, working the Liverpool and Crewe services. A very nice ride although the motor is intermittent in carriage 64036.

With 227 now at Wolverton, that leaves 323226 as the last one still with the rather dingy yellowish lighting.
 
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Been noticing some of the Heaton 156s having new lighting fitted but for some reason, some of the tubes have the light shining towards the ceiling, what's the reasoning behind this? 156489 had a large amount in this condition when I was on it a good while back.
 
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Paul_10 said:
Been noticing some of the Heaton 156s having new lighting fitted but for some reason, some of the tubes have the light shining towards the ceiling, what's the reasoning behind this? 156489 had a large amount in this condition when I was on it a good while back.
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It might have the plus side of reducing glare from cheap LED tubes, but if they aren't all like that it's probably just laziness.
 
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