Blindtraveler
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Can someone explain to me why the need for revised toilet door controls on 333s? How on earth can you lock the toilet from the outside
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If you press the close button inside the toilet on a 333, the bog locks itself automatically when it shuts. Press it and hop outside with nefarious intent and hey presto, it needs the guard to open it up again. It's always been a stupid design flaw.
dave87016
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Any idea when 150145 is due to come back to northern ? IIRC it’s been at Wolverton for several months now
diligentdave
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The unit will celebrate a 1 year birthday at Wolverton before it's released, currently predicted at early Sept 23.
sbrignall72
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There is a Crewe to Hull Botanic Gardens and return in for this Saturday. Does anyone know the units involved. MTIA
Halish Railway
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Has anyone else noticed the new announcements?
I rode 331107 earlier today and the announcements were instead narrated by an Yorkshire man.
I rode 331107 earlier today and the announcements were instead narrated by an Yorkshire man.
pokemonsuper9
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I noticed a different announcer on the Civities too (a 195 and a 331) but I don't think they were on the Sprinters I also got that day.
td97
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Yes, the male voice is a very strong Yorkshire accent which doesn't really match well on NW services naming local Manchester/Lancashire/Merseyside/Cheshire stations. "Deansgate" was the most overbearing.
The female voice for BTP/security alerts is quite neutral though.
The female voice for BTP/security alerts is quite neutral though.
sbrignall72
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Update. Doesn't appear to be running.
Was going to say this. I rode back from Poulton to Leeds on Monday and noticed the new announcements.
Are they going to be on the rest of the fleet (Sprinters, 170's, 323's and 333's) or are they just for the 195's and 331's for now?
Also, who voices these new announcements?
175001
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It's a York guard
py_megapixel
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Yes, I've heard the new announcements on a couple of trains this week.
I have no issue with them changing the voice, but I think they probably need go through and edit some of the clips, as there's some strangely placed pauses that appear which didn't with the old voice: "This is Manchester Piccadilly........... where this train........... terminates."
Also, presumably this has now provided the opportunity to correct pronunciation of places such as "Frizinghall" and "Handforth" which I understand were previously wrong.
I have no issue with them changing the voice, but I think they probably need go through and edit some of the clips, as there's some strangely placed pauses that appear which didn't with the old voice: "This is Manchester Piccadilly........... where this train........... terminates."
Also, presumably this has now provided the opportunity to correct pronunciation of places such as "Frizinghall" and "Handforth" which I understand were previously wrong.
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Adam Evans
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I don't mind the new announcements. At least they're reliable and consistent unlike what the new units had previously which seemingly kept changing from one set of lines to another every week.
The new announcements (whilst slightly robotic) are very clear and simple to understand which is the most important thing for your Average Joe.
Although yeah, the strong Yorkshire accent is slightly grating when announcing certain stations in Merseyside.
'Mozzley Hill' the most annoying one for me!
I wonder why they've had no problems with the system on the older refurbished units which have always worked and continue to work just fine.
The new announcements (whilst slightly robotic) are very clear and simple to understand which is the most important thing for your Average Joe.
Although yeah, the strong Yorkshire accent is slightly grating when announcing certain stations in Merseyside.
'Mozzley Hill' the most annoying one for me!
I wonder why they've had no problems with the system on the older refurbished units which have always worked and continue to work just fine.
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Halish Railway
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The legacy units use TrainFX for announcements and screens, whereas the CAF Civities use another product (Televic I believe?)
MP393
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156406 has gone to Newton Heath this morning from Crewe
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Ben Anslow
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Televic TFT first gen I believe
ben2012
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Does anyone know why a 333 is running round with the front set of doors on both end areas bright yellow, has northern changed the livery slightly
sbrignall72
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Yes they will be modified to suit.
As I posted on the previous page, it's a trial to aid conductors with their door duties.
jakemccann
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I Believe 156409 Is Going To Newton Heath From Wolverton Tomorrow
Adam Evans
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I said this, although when I was on one today the first part of the announcement was sped up until it started announcing the stations. "WelcomeAboardThisNorthernServiceTo.... "
pokemonsuper9
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at least there'll be less time with announcements
sbrignall72
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Does anyone know when 150141 goes to Bletchley, as that is one I need for the year, so best get a move on. MTIA
diligentdave
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All 3 will be transferred to WMT Tyseley depot on 23rd July for staff/driver re-training, so will be a while before they work the Bletchley line (possibly end of August I read somewhere).
sbrignall72
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Ok thank you, best get across soon
ewanh723
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Hi all
Dont supose if any of you know if any of the 156s that have recently been transfered will get northern interiors? feels abit strange going into a northern livery train with EMR red interiors.
Dont supose if any of you know if any of the 156s that have recently been transfered will get northern interiors? feels abit strange going into a northern livery train with EMR red interiors.
SteveyBee131
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From what I can remember, the plan is for them to be done eventually. As they arrived with Northern after the original refurbishment contracts were signed (and indeed completed), they will need to be done as a separate contract. Think it was mentioned on here back in the spring so you might need to look a couple of pages back
diligentdave
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Any unit that is coming out of Wolverton will have a Northern interior. 156409 has just come out, it's had a partial interior refurb (due to time constraints) but 416 & 417 will come out with a full interior refurb. No digital though as I've pointed out before.
Blindtraveler
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These will presumably get digital mods at some stage? I guess now in the queue behind the seven six nine and three one nine reported to be going through the works for these elsewhere?