jonesy3001
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Won't know yet til/if it sets off and it goes pass bolton le sands, preston, farington and the wigan cams.
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SimplyLlama
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Unless this is it coming to skipton https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:P56074/2023-11-27/detailed
Edit: it has just been put down for 103, but is also down for a returning service
reecestrains
Member
Ah, then it'll probably be 108 going over.
Looks like it's just setting off now for Allerton.
Looks like it's just setting off now for Allerton.
jonesy3001
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Setting of 91L, might be whatever is available.
It's a light loco move.
SimplyLlama
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Today’s Skipton to Allerton move has just been put down as ‘cancelled’, but I’ll believe that when I see it
jonesy3001
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0z36 light loco move to allerton
SimplyLlama
Member
Ah yes, thank you
jonesy3001
Established Member
Nothing going back then, de ja vu again?
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reecestrains
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It's been happening a lot over the last week...
It's come up cancelled due to a problem at the depot...
It's come up cancelled due to a problem at the depot...
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They were wrong this time. 108 is doing what it was planned to all day today.
jonesy3001
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Hope they have one ready for tomorrow's move.
reecestrains
Member
So, 108 went over in the end and RTT cancellations were wrong?
reecestrains
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Sorry, I'm a bit confused here... I was just checking if a unit was actually transferred from Skipton to Allerton this evening despite RTT saying cancelled or if it actually was another cancellation?
Nothing moved.
reecestrains
Member
Ah, that's fine. Thanks for clearing that up.
superkev
Established Member
Perhaps with all recent difficulties towing the 331s across the pennines going the long way round via Edinburgh or London may be more successful.
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reecestrains
Member
That would be interesting to see, but I don't think they'll do that as it's such a long way round. It'd be easier being towed through the Bentham Line or even Settle-Carlisle then down towards Allerton.
Are ROG drivers even trained on the 331s? Given that Northern need the 4 cars in the North West before the TT change in December there is no time to train ROG drivers up on 331s.
So unless ROG drivers are trained on 331s going the long way is impossible.
Might be the only way if the issue with towing the 331s across the pennines continues, since its not the route is the issue. The issue is something to do with the locomotive be from what I've read online.
superkev
Established Member
RTT shows Allerton to Skipton 331 move as running. Early too.
Anyone know the unit number as well as which units have now moved.
Thanks
K
Anyone know the unit number as well as which units have now moved.
Thanks
K
reecestrains
Member
I know 331102 and 331104 have now gone North West. I feel they might try 108 again this afternoon.
331001 and 331002 have now moved to Yorkshire with another one coming over today.
331001 and 331002 have now moved to Yorkshire with another one coming over today.
At this rate, all 12 4 car 331's won't be over in the North West for the timetable change with it only being a couple weeks away.
I know at least one driver at ROG that is trained on 331s, either way its unlikely they (331s) are cleared to go via Scotland.
I think it would also be unfair to blame ROG and the 37s seeing as 331s are not exactly known for being straight forward in any way, I can well imagine "computer says no"
331002 is out plying its trade on Leeds - Doncaster jobs today
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superkev
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331002 - 3 cars on the busy Doncaster route doesn't seem a good idea.
RTT shows 331008 on the 15.30 Bradford FS Leeds today.
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You'll just have to get used to it for the next year or so, unfortunately.
TT-ONR-NRN
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333s to come eventually. Whether or not you see that as an upgrade or downgrade depends on whether you value capacity (333) over facilities (331).
Essentially the main difference in facilities for passengers between 333s and 331s will just be tables and 2+2 seating. They both have air con, some form of power sockets and a single toilet.
It looks like northern are purposefully putting 002 on busy trains in and out of Leeds, it was on the 1715 Leeds to Ilkley yesterday, 1722 Leeds to Doncaster today having being swapped off the triangle this morning, tonight it ends its day at Doncaster (subject to any late swaps) and will probably be put on a busy arrival and may find its self on a busy Skipton this week. They'll be assessing if a 3 car can take the normal amount of passengers without leaving people behind