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Northumberland Line reopening: progress updates

androdas

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I did notice when I went through on the train yesterday how much Bedlington has progressed over easter from a hole in the ground to something resembling a station. Obviously a long way to go but that is all the platform edges now in place on the line so that is a good milestone. Hopefully not long to wait now for Bebside.
 
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swt_passenger

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I did notice when I went through on the train yesterday how much Bedlington has progressed over easter from a hole in the ground to something resembling a station. Obviously a long way to go but that is all the platform edges now in place on the line so that is a good milestone. Hopefully not long to wait now for Bebside.
I was trying to work out roughly how much of the down platform units were in place, and so I think, (without looking up the planning drawings), it’s possibly only about 50%? The down platform is staggered compared to the up, ie it’s positioned more towards the level crossing. So they’ll need another closure for getting it to full length.
 

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It's great to see the reopening of the line to passenger services doing well. It's just a shame it's taken so many years for it happen! Well done to the tireless campaigners over the years to make this service come to fruition.

The reality is that it is more a new passenger opening than a reopening as there was never anything like the frequent service we have today. It's a new line in a new environment making use of old freight tracks and infrastructure. That needs to be remembered by those citing the current success as a precedent for elsewhere.

The passenger service 60+ years ago ran to Manors or Monkseaton and was far less frequent than today (a few trains to Blyth, Newbiggin and Morpeth). This undated map shows the web of connecting bus routes. I have a United bus timetable with map from about 1950 showing the interchanges then being advertised - parcels were a major part of both bus and train operations. Miners and their families went shorter distances than today's residents. When they went into Newcastle it would most likely be by bus.

What this map doesn't show is the huge number of inter-connected collieries in the Northumberland and Durham coalfield, over 300 of them at the time of nationalisation. Today's Northumberland line exists in a totally different world utilising a very small proportion of the total track mileage that was still being used only 60 years ago. The ancient mineral wagonways leading down to the Tyne go back well before 1825.

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The passenger service 60+ years ago ran to Manors or Monkseaton and was far less frequent than today (a few trains to Blyth, Newbiggin and Morpeth). This undated map shows the web of connecting bus routes. I have a United bus timetable with map from about 1950 showing the interchanges then being advertised - parcels were a major part of both bus and train operations. Miners and their families went shorter distances than today's residents. When they went into Newcastle it would most likely be by bus.
Yes, often forgotten how poor the service was on many of the lines closed in the Beeching era, whereas buses could get much closer to people's homes and often destinations, and there weren't enough other vehicles to slow them down much. Commuting was a thing from the genteel suburbs served by the electrification, but the likes of the Blyth area weren't the sort of places people would travel from to work.

Like re-openings of the Robin Hood Line, in South Wales and elsewhere, they are a result of the economy becoming much more service-based with jobs moving from local pits and factories into city centres. Re-using the rail infrastructure that mostly carried freight to and from those facilities to take people to where the jobs are is a small part of regenerating those left behind communities (though by no means enough). And we have done very little to get people to the other sorts of jobs, in out-of-town premises that are hard to reach without a car.
 

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Yes, often forgotten how poor the service was on many of the lines closed in the Beeching era, whereas buses could get much closer to people's homes and often destinations, and there weren't enough other vehicles to slow them down much. Commuting was a thing from the genteel suburbs served by the electrification, but the likes of the Blyth area weren't the sort of places people would travel from to work.

Like re-openings of the Robin Hood Line, in South Wales and elsewhere, they are a result of the economy becoming much more service-based with jobs moving from local pits and factories into city centres. Re-using the rail infrastructure that mostly carried freight to and from those facilities to take people to where the jobs are is a small part of regenerating those left behind communities (though by no means enough). And we have done very little to get people to the other sorts of jobs, in out-of-town premises that are hard to reach without a car.

In fairness, I'd say the bigger problem for the line back then was most the stations were in the middle of nowhere. Bebside, Newsham and Seaton Delaval were pretty isolated back in the day and like you said with the pits etc there was never that much demand to go to Newcastle anyway, excluding Ashington the line missed the main local town centres without a change.

There's been massive developments in SE Northumberland since Beeching, Cramlington pretty much didn't exist at all.

https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/index.php?view=55.04305,-1.54601&zoom=12&layer=oneinch61 - Good site to see what the area (or anywhere) was like pre Beeching pretty much.
 

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In fairness, I'd say the bigger problem for the line back then was most the stations were in the middle of nowhere. Bebside, Newsham and Seaton Delaval were pretty isolated back in the day and like you said with the pits etc there was never that much demand to go to Newcastle anyway, excluding Ashington the line missed the main local town centres without a change.

There's been massive developments in SE Northumberland since Beeching, Cramlington pretty much didn't exist at all.

https://www.sabre-roads.org.uk/maps/index.php?view=55.04305,-1.54601&zoom=12&layer=oneinch61 - Good site to see what the area (or anywhere) was like pre Beeching pretty much.
Following the sequence of old maps reminds me how much it has changed in my lifetime. There were very many pits and rows of terraced pit houses close together, mostly all now gone. New houses have gardens and council houses are being swamped by new private housing.

Cramlington existed as an old village, sometimes known as East Cramlington, and dating back to at least 1135. I have 18th century ancestors from there.

Cramlington and Killingworth New Towns were 1960s creations to provide jobs for former miners - including a famous perfume factory! I well recall a factory tour of Wilkinson Sword's new razor blade factory in 1966.
 

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