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Number of platforms relative to population

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I've been trying to work out how various towns and cities across the country seem to fare in terms of how much platform capacity they have for a settlement of their size. This should be a good indicator of how well off - or otherwise - some of these places are, because a bigger station suggests a better service for the most part.

N.B.: Metro services do count.

To give a few examples, consider Bracknell, Lewes and Cardiff. Bracknell has a population of 70,000 and two stations, each of which has two platforms. his gives it one platform for every 17,500 people - which, if we're being honest, isn't brilliant. Lewes has only 16,000 people, and yet its one station has five platforms, meaning there are just 3,200 people per platform. Finally, Cardiff has something like 20 stations, with an average number of platforms of roughly two (Central is negated by the Coryton line), giving its population of roughly 360,000 a ratio of one platform for every 9,000 people.

Obviously some of the smaller places will do very well here - St Budeaux seems like an obvious example - but what about at the other end of the scale? Which places seem completely bereft of capacity?

Three places that have struck me as examples of this would be Chelmsford, Stoke and Swindon. Chelmsford has just two platforms (hopefully four in the not-too-distant future should Springfield ever be built) for a population of 105,000 - giving a hideous ratio of more than 50,000 people per platform. Stoke isn't that much better, with its 250,000 people having to share seven platforms for a ratio of roughly 35,000 per platform; before Etruria closed, this would have been roughly 27,000. Finally, Swindon's population of 160,000 have to share one four-platform station, at roughly 40,000 people per platform.

Obivously this data isn't perfect, as some station are better served and/or connected than others, but it does provide a good indicator of where is doing well and where is not. Can anyone find another location that has a ratio of upwards of 50,000 for instance?

Basic formula: Population ÷ platforms

Population is defined as the district/borough area where it is (almost) entirely urban, e.g. Nottingham, or the urban area where the district extends far beyond the locality, e.g. Swansea.

And before anyone suggests London, don't bother. It has something like 600 stations all things considered, many of which have more than two platforms and in some cases more than four.
 
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Tricky to get meaningful stats without knowledge of the station's catchment area, though (not to mention connecting passengers).

The classic for this is Peterborough. 5 platforms (soon to change), huge numbers of connecting passengers, and a gigantic catchment area, going well into neighbouring counties.
 

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With respect this is not a very meaningful way of measuring service provision.

Edale has two platforms for its 300 people (so 1 platform per 158 people).
Staplehurst has two platforms for its 6000 people (so 1 platform per 3000 people). It's also the nearest station for Cranbrook which has another 5,400 people.

However, Edale has one train per 2 hours to Manchester and Sheffield. Staplehurst has 2 trains per hour to Tonbridge + Sevenoaks + London and Ashford + East Kent towns. Staplehurst therefore has not only a more frequent service but a more useful one to more towns (Edale's is still useful of course), but the same number of platforms.

Some stations have more platforms than they need (Cleethorpes) or are a single platform terminus on a two-track line, making them look artificially worse off. Others are a short distance apart and serve the same settlement (4 platforms between Garforth and East Garforth).

A better measure might be 'how many seats per hour are there to the next major settlement'.
 
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Cheltenham beats everything mentioned so far. Two platforms between 115,600 people, i.e. 57,800 per platform.

EDIT: No wait, Corby edges Cheltenham. One platform for all 61,600 Corbyites.
 

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Milton Keynes (including Wolverton, Bletchley, Bow Brickhill and Woburn Sands)

MKC 7 platforms
Wolverton 4 platforms
Bletchley 6 platforms (when 5 is back in service)
Bow Brickhill 2
Woburn Sands 2
Total 21 platforms
Population 226000

which makes just short of 11000 per platform

whereas Seascale, 2 platforms, population 1747, 873.5 per platform
 

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Actually I just remembered that there is only one station in the whole City of Leicester (Syston and South Wigston are outside the boundaries).

329,600 / 4 platforms = 82,400. Beat that.
 

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Surely platform length is based on the length of trains that either do call at the station, have called there in the past or will do in the future.

Stalybridge, being on the North TPE line allows for longer trains calling there (I believe up to 9 car on the through platforms) than Northwich on the Mid-Cheshire line despite Northwich being a larger town. Even if you count Greenbank station (on the border of Northwich and the village of Hartford) as a second Northwich station it still wouldn't allow for the difference - Northwich allows up to 6 car while Greenbank allows up to 4 car.
 

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I've been trying to work out how various towns and cities across the country seem to fare in terms of how much platform capacity they have for a settlement of their size.

The argument you've put forward doesn't really work that well in practice.

Hartford has 2757 people per platform. The average daily usage of each platform (LENNON figure/number of days trains operate/number of platforms) is 276 so that's equivalent to 10% of the village using the station every day.

On the other hand the little village of Ashley has 130.5 people per platform. The average daily usage of each platform is just 7.5 so that's equivalent to 5.7% of the village using the station every day.

So should a settlement with the equivalent to 10% of the settlement using the station every day not have a bigger and better station than another settlement of the same size where the equivalent of <6% use the train?
 

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Tyndrum (population approx 170) is served by 3 platforms, 2 at Upper, 1 at Lower.
 

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Who said anything about length of the platform? :?

Didn't read all of the original post initially. However, as 4 platforms that hold 4 x 23m carriages have the same capacity as 2 platforms that hold 8 x 23m carriages the title is misleading as it says platform capacity opposed to number of platforms.
 

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Presumably the "worst" would be a seaside town like Llandudno or Skegness, where there are a large number of platforms for a relatively small "year round" population
 

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Milton Keynes (including Wolverton, Bletchley, Bow Brickhill and Woburn Sands)

MKC 7 platforms
Wolverton 4 platforms
Bletchley 6 platforms (when 5 is back in service)
Bow Brickhill 2
Woburn Sands 2
Total 21 platforms
Population 226000

which makes just short of 11000 per platform

whereas Seascale, 2 platforms, population 1747, 873.5 per platform

Fenny Stratford? WOB is outside Milton Keynes settlement but is in the Unitary Authority. Still including WOB there are 22 platforms, just over 10k per platform.
 

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Didn't read all of the original post initially. However, as 4 platforms that hold 4 x 23m carriages have the same capacity as 2 platforms that hold 8 x 23m carriages the title is misleading as it says platform capacity opposed to number of platforms.

Changed. I hope the new title is clearer.

Would Middlesbrough count, 2 platforms for 138,400 people

Middlesbrough has several local stations though. Every station in the area has to be considered, not just the main one, because otherwise the thread would be a bit pointless.
 

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Wrexham County Borough has five stations,eleven working platforms,current population of 140K. So 12K a platform.

Wrexham town has five platforms, current population 44k, so 8K a platform.

Differing figures when Counties have the same name as the town. Wrexham/Flint etc. Denbighshire has no station at Denbigh.
 

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I don't think this is a particularly fair measurement. Stations might have unused platforms, platforms on fast lines that trains don't call at etc. Also, a station at a terminus or a junction might well have more platforms than neighbouring stations, but still receive the same frequency of services.
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Middlesbrough has several local stations though. Every station in the area has to be considered, not just the main one, because otherwise the thread would be a bit pointless.

But if all trains through one of the platforms then call at another then there are no additional services, yet the counting is doubled!
 

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Oxford might be an interesting one here - 3 platforms, serving a population either of 150,200 (for the city) or of 244,000 (for the metropolitan area - whatever that encompasses - Wikipedia doesn't give it a definition).

This gives us figures of 50,066 people per platform, or the extremely high 81,333 people per platform.
 

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Changed. I hope the new title is clearer.



Middlesbrough has several local stations though. Every station in the area has to be considered, not just the main one, because otherwise the thread would be a bit pointless.

South Bank, Marton, Nunthorpe & Gypsy Lane are all in Redcar & Cleveland jurisdiction. The only station with-in Middlesbrough is Middlesbrough.
 

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I was going to suggest Oxford!

Reading does rather well (unsurprisingly!), 155000 pop (for the borough) and 21 platforms giving 7380 people per platform.
 

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Middlesbrough has several local stations though. Every station in the area has to be considered, not just the main one, because otherwise the thread would be a bit pointless.

Perish the thought :P

It's nonetheless almost as pointless arguing over what constitutes "the area".

Until relatively recently, Newport might have been a pretty reasonable offer on this. Four platforms used to be three (with only two ever in use) serving 150,000 people. I also wonder if Rogerstone is actually within the city.
 

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Other end of the scale Dovey Junction 2 platforms per.....0 inhabitants; Sugar Loaf.....1 platform per 0 inhabitants, or maybe a couple more if you include a couple of farms within half a mile.

I agree that this is a funny way to look at service provision if that's what it's supposed to be doing.
 

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OK, you said not (Greater) London. But how about the financial centre; the City of London.

Platforms: 76, when you count the tube, DLR and NR stations.
Population: 7,375

That's 97 people per platform! :D
 
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