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Busaholic

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Nice to know there are so many OS map enthusiasts about! I've got almost the whole of England covered at 1:50,000, although some maps were inherited from my father or aunt and so are 30+ years old. Always got the 1:25,000 maps for places I've been on holiday to as well as the local area.

I recommend the GEOGRAPH website - based on the OS 1km grid squares, this works on the basis of members posting photos taken in each 1km square, or of a square. You don't have to sign up to view the site, only if you want to post photos. OS mapping at several scales (but only covering a small area) is available to show the location of photographic subjects within the square.
I was so into drawing maps from the age of three my parents were convinced I'd become a cartographer. My first taste of Geography didn't come until secondary school, and I mostly enjoyed the two years I was allowed to study it, but my school was so regimented you had to give it up then unless you were going into the lowest, non-academic stream, which I suppose is a reflection of academia's non regard for the subject,
 
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I've got about 50-60 going back 60 years to today. If I'm going somewhere new, I just get one off e-bay. They are more than likely to be under 10 years old and inexpensive, so unless you really need an absolutely up-to-date one for new roads, then they're fine.

Also if they are slightly used, it takes away the dread of tearign a brand new one in the wind (or getting it saturated!). I still have a couple of cloth-based maps.

EDIT reading the above post - I was offered a job at the OD when around 20, apprentice cartographer and they would train me up in Southampton, but within days ofgetting the offer it was withdrawn due to thatcher's civil service cutbacks.

Which must be good as it prevents people driving off cliffs reading the maps I would have made!
 

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Nice to know there are so many OS map enthusiasts about!

Which gives me an opportunity to plug The Charles Close Society for the Study of Ordnance Survey Maps ... whose members range from enthusiasts to experts - and the Ordnancemaps chat group ...

There are a number of commercial vendors of digital OS (and other) maps, including Mapyx and Anquet (which also offer 'addons' you may or may not desire.

For browsing OS 1:50k (and 250k) mapping on line a site I found years ago is https://www.fonant.com/osmap.html

And there are a number of websites (globally) with scanned vintage OS and other comparable (GSGS, AMS, etc.) maps for downloading ... I'll leave people to explore with the aid of Google and friends.
 

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I was so into drawing maps from the age of three my parents were convinced I'd become a cartographer.
I always enjoyed maps. In my early 20's, I was living in Preston and doing temping work whilst looking for a permanent job. Agency asked if I was available to do some graphics work at Royal Ordnance.
I was delighted, thinking I'd be doing stuff with maps and was very surprised at the level of security at the front gate on my first day
 

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Strangely, I love looking at maps, especially OS ones, the same way people read books.
I've a fair few from areas that I've visited and locally I prefer the 1:25,000 for the footpaths. I also follow the railways and the courses disused railways.
If I'm going to be in the loo for a few minutes, I always take in an OS map to look at :D:E:D:E:D
 

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I wonder if anyone else remembers the book that started my interest in maps, "The Map that Came to Life". I must have had a copy from my local library in the 1950s, as I never owned a copy, though maybe I borrowed it more than once. I still remember the fascination and I've always been interested in maps since.

It's shown here, with enlargeable pages:
www.fulltable.com/VTS/aoi/l/lampitt/map.htm
(web page with an overview of the book's pages)

As a teenager I bought a detailed atlas of Britain and used to pore over it for hours. I still have it, though now somewhat decrepit in its binding!

Even now if I go to a new area on holiday I'll almost always buy a paper map of the area, internet mapping is useful but it doesn't give you an overview or a sense of how places fit together.
 

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I've recently ordered a few from Amazon for convenience. I don't know how they compare price wise. I wouldn't even know where else to look for them and they were posted through my door very quickly.

I do use google maps a lot on the hills these days however, the satellite view is very useful and of course it tells me exactly where I am, plus the direction I'm facing which is very useful in fog/low cloud. The OS is mainly used for route planning and areas with no phone signal, in wet weather, for calculating distance or when I need to keep my hands free for scrambling.
 
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Stanford’s in London. I have never bought on line from them, although shopping in person is a risk as I am liable to come out with stuff I never knew existed.
I can relate!. Even shopping for food that is the case. I will try and dig out a link because I was given one for ordering OS maps online and customising too. Love OS Maps.
 
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I wish OS did modern equivalents of the old 25" series (or, if they do, I wish they were made available better). Still, be grateful for what we have, I suppose!
 

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I wish OS did modern equivalents of the old 25" series (or, if they do, I wish they were made available better).
OS MasterMap is your friend. Used mainly for property planning. Nearest metric equivalent to the old 25" scale is probably 1:2500. Almost certainly all maps at this scale are bespoke and need to be obtained to order (and relatively expensive at that but no doubt digital mapping is where the OS makes much of its money these days).
 

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The 25" scale maps were 1:2,500, the earliest metric maps the OS produced. They are only approximately 25 inches to the mile, not exactly.
A few years ago I needed a 25 inch map for a planning application. There was a local graphics shop with a licence to pring OS maps for selling, but I can't remember which one.
 

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I usually buy the paper maps from my local independent bookshop as I have a 10% discount card and like to support the bookshop. Though sometimes I get them from Stanford’s In Covent Garden or Heffer’s in Cambridge if I was passing. OS occasionally have an online offer. For some of the main walking maps I now get the laminated versions.

I also have some Harvey maps which seem to be easier to visualise the landscape from the shadings though find the OS better to use when navigating.

I have a subscription to country Walking Magazine which gives 50% discount for the OS map app subscription.
 

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If you just need a map for a weekend trip, then I agree that it's well worth checking out your local library - IF it's still operating during the lockdown. (Here in Croydon, all libraries are shut and show no sign of reopening.)
I've always found E-bay and Amazon a happy hunting ground for old OS maps at reasonable prices. If having the most up to date version isn't important (and I find it rarely is for visiting the countryside) then you should be able to get most maps of most areas for a few pounds. I got an older OS map of the Buxton area for £2.95 the other day, ordered and posted in about three days.
If you live near one of the country's dwindling numbers of secondhand bookshops, it's also well worth checking there, as prices tend to be lower than on the Internet, though there's no guarantee that they will have what you want, of course. You might also try charity shops, but they rarely have maps in my experience.
 

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Indeed, I have the Scouts equivalent, 1985 vintage.
When I was doing A level Physical Geography at Southport Tech back in the 70's
We had to try and deduce the underlying rock type from examining an OS Sheet.

Besides all the standard issues of OS Sheets it also posssible to find Military versions of the whole country.
Not much different other than Military notes and use of mils rather than degrees.
Some military issue also for GERMANY BAOR printed by RE Units.
 

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The 25" scale maps were 1:2,500, the earliest metric maps the OS produced. They are only approximately 25 inches to the mile, not exactly.
While they - and the contemporary 1:500 maps (or plans) - had a 'rational' scale (rather than being 1:528, or 1:2640), I don't think they could be described as 'metric' - looking at them (coutesy NLS) the scale (and other distances and heights) are all given in imperial units.

I suspect the first OS maps that could really be described as 'metric' (with heights and distances in metres) were for the Army in WW1 - either of France and Belgium, or to corresponding specification of training areas in GB. The NLS has scans of OS produced 1:20000 maps series GSGS 2748, with heights in metres, and metric as well as imperial scale bars from the 1920s.
 
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I'm looking at a repro of Tyneside sheet 4, revised 1894-5 and published 1898, and it says "Scale 1/2500 being 25.344 inches to a Statute Mile or 208.33 Feet to One Inch." In fairness, though, the measurement scale bar is in feet (and links and chains); and a handy fact that I find useful for guessing distances is that the 25" sheets cover an area 1 mile N-S and 1.5 miles E-W.
 

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OS maps have to be one of the best things we have.

And a lot of the data is free via OS Open Data, and it gets easier to customise for your own purposes if you are prepared to spend some time on big downloads and learning to use something like QGIS.
 

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The Ordnance Survey is one of the few institutions (perhaps the only one) that still makes one proud to be British (another thread in there?). I agree that its mapping standard is hardly equalled for clarity and ease of use by any other European country, though the Swiss official topo maps are works of art, especially in the mountain areas, with their beautiful hill shading and colouring.

The main problem I find with OS is that the orange-covered Explorer maps are unwieldy: too big to be used in the field on a windy day. The old green Pathfinders, of which I have about 750 and buy more when I see them in charity shops (and can remember if I've already got them or not, which I rarely can), were just the right size. What I can enthusiastically recommend are the Yellow Walk maps (www.yellowpublications.co.uk) which take a smaller area, e.g. Arnside and Silverdale, and enlarge it to 1:16,000. These maps fold to postcard size (and about 8 or 9 of them fit very snugly into the boxes that Batchelor's packet soups come in). They can easily be used in the field, without blowing all over the place, and are showerproof but not totally waterproof. I find that I can read the print on them without my glasses, which I can't do with Explorers. They are ideal for areas like Calderdale which have a very high density of footpaths per square mile. The Hebden Bridge-Todmorden area is one where you really need something larger than the Explorer.

The bane of any paper map is that the place you want tends to be on the join/fold. Kettlewell in the Yorkshire Dales is a case in point. But there is an AA walkers map (no. 7, Central Yorkshire Dales)which is just a reprint of the OS map with different sheet boundaries, and that solves that problem. I found that when I wanted to walk in the Whaley Bridge area, it was awkwardly on the join of 2 or 3 maps, so I got a special sheet printed by an outfit in Hope, Derbyshire, which will do you a showerproof map centred on any point you choose. I opted for Whaley Bridge station. Nowadays I've got the area covered by Yellow Maps, so I don't use it much.

Good sources for second-hand OS maps in the northwest are Carnforth Bookshop and Bookcase in Carlisle; the bookshop in the old chapel in Sedbergh is also good as is George Kelsall at Littleborough (in the house at the back). But I still miss the Manchester branch of Stanfords. I completed my set of the last 1-inch to the mile maps and am well on the way to completing the Landrangers for England and Wales and the more urban areas of Scotland. Nowadays, I'm told, the Explorers outsell the Landrangers, which is the reverse of what used to be the case.
 
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The bane of any paper map is that the place you want tends to be on the join/fold. Kettlewell in the Yorkshire Dales is a case in point. But there is an AA walkers map (no. 7, Central Yorkshire Dales)which is just a reprint of the OS map with different sheet boundaries, and that solves that problem. I found that when I wanted to walk in the Whaley Bridge area, it was awkwardly on the join of 2 or 3 maps, so I got a special sheet printed by an outfit in Hope, Derbyshire, which will do you a showerproof map centred on any point you choose. I opted for Whaley Bridge station. Nowadays I've got the area covered by Yellow Maps, so I don't use it much.
There was (probably still is) a military aphorism that any critical action would be (a) when it was raining; (b) at the junction between two maps; and (if it was really critical)/or (c) at the junction between two grids...
 

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There was (probably still is) a military aphorism that any critical action would be (a) when it was raining; (b) at the junction between two maps; and (if it was really critical)/or (c) at the junction between two grids...
The enemy probably knows where those places are too.

Remember how OS maps used to leave blanks for military sites? I think that changed after 1990 when it turned out the Russians had excellent maps of those sites anyway.
 

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The enemy probably knows where those places are too.

Remember how OS maps used to leave blanks for military sites? I think that changed after 1990 when it turned out the Russians had excellent maps of those sites anyway.
For most of WW1 on the Western Front - on both sides - captured enemy tranch maps were highly prized, as they showed 'our' tranches. which (as a security measure) were omitted from 'ours' (which only showed enemy trenches). Eventually someone in appropriate authority realised...
 

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The enemy probably knows where those places are too.

Remember how OS maps used to leave blanks for military sites? I think that changed after 1990 when it turned out the Russians had excellent maps of those sites anyway.
Nuclear sites as well; Salwick was a blank on some older OS maps. That reminds me that one of the curiosities I often looked for on old 1-inch and 1:50,000 maps was a blank kilometre square without any features at all shown, not for security reasons but just because the area was unusually featureless. They are very few and far between. There was one in North Lincolnshire/South Humberside, as I recall.
 

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Nuclear sites as well; Salwick was a blank on some older OS maps. That reminds me that one of the curiosities I often looked for on old 1-inch and 1:50,000 maps was a blank kilometre square without any features at all shown, not for security reasons but just because the area was unusually featureless. They are very few and far between. There was one in North Lincolnshire/South Humberside, as I recall.

Indeed - this one, albeit the transmission line just nibbles the corner. Looks like OS have deliberately moved the name of Ousefleet to spoil the fun!

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Isn't there a travelogue writer out there who has written an article about that very same square kilometre of not very much in North Lincolnshire?

Yep. It's Tim Moore in "You are Awful (but I like you)" and the grid square is SE830220.
 
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